You are quitting because there is simply no objective evidence to back your position - simple as that...Yeah this is a waste of time. I quit.
You are quitting because there is simply no objective evidence to back your position - simple as that...Yeah this is a waste of time. I quit.
Yeah, you win... you da man.You are quitting because there is simply no objective evidence to back your position - simple as that...
I think its comical that ppl act pious and spell the word God like this----> G-d, then have an image of a cross in their avatar. Lullz....
l'm saying that Jesus who is the one God was talking to the Father which is the same one God. God is not bound by our constraints, he can be God in heaven at the same time he is God in flesh on earth. Both are the same one God or else there are 3 God's which I don't believe and I'm sure you don't either.![]()
No, the physical body of Christ was made by God 2000 years ago, it did not exist in eternity.
Normal in all ways except he was born of a virgin.... that's not normal lol.K....,
Not nitpicking here but, are you saying Christ was not born of a normal birth?
I don't know of any place in scripture where Jesus spoke to himself.K...,
That is a different point than the one in contention; Where else in scriptures was Christ speaking to Himself?
From what I can tell the biggest majority is figurative, very little straight forward.The follow bible study guide will help;
1) Take the Bible literally..whenever possible. If typical, figurative or symbolic language is used then we must look for a literal interpretation it intends to convey.
2) Look for scripture which interprets scripture.
3) Do not spiritualize the Bible.
In the late 1960s and early 1970s I had a pastor friend who was definitely KJVO and said he got his KJVO stance from Fallwell.
I never had any reason to doubt him. I believe that the 17th century Baptist stance you just cited was regarding Scripture, NOT a particular translation.
My belief is based on experieince... you don't have that experieince and you wont be able to see proof. I could show you stuff all day long and you will dismiss it one after another. I'm a seed planter, if the seed takes, if it don't it don't.
Sure I can know your understanding of truth from the KJV. I know that you and almost everybody else on this forum including the KJV onlies don't believe every word for exactly what it says.You have no way to know his experience or mine or that of any other member arguing the opposing point of view.
How is it that you know for certain that God didn't authorize the KJV?
It's your opinion that the KJV has many errors. Why do you consider something to be error just because it doesn't match copies of original writings?Because there are many errors in it.
He could use it for His plan as well as any other tool, but I do not find any special inspiration/authorization for this translation which would make it unique and all other translations "evil".
It's your opinion that the KJV has many errors. Why do you consider something to be error just because it doesn't match copies of original writings?
Take Easter as an example, why is Easter an error? Easter is the fulfillment of Passover, it's just a word choice.
Compare the 2 translations below, do they say the same? Is one correct and the other in incorrect?Any kind of problem you postulate to be in new versions can be found in the KJV, too.
Its only your belief that when they are in the KJV, they are somehow "OK".
Compare the 2 translations below, do they say the same? Is one correct and the other in incorrect?
Matthew 4:8 King James Version (KJV)
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
Matthew 4:8 New International Version (NIV)
8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.
Also I think Luke doesn't use exceeding in the KJV either... bad example on my part.When you say "compare 2 translations..." then the goal is to compare them to underlying text, not to each other.
As you said, we are not comparing two doctrines, two teachings, two thoughts, but two translations.
Also, its very likely that on some places KJV will be better translation than NIV. It proves nothing extraordinary.