Gods Sabbath should be kept EVERY DAY!

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GOD tells us in verse 10 of Hebrews 4, "For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his." "As" is direct Comparison. So it is A Ceasing from work like GOD did from HIS. It is the calling to those who entered in their rest (the Gospel rest in Jesus in GOD) to cease from their work AS GOD did. GOD ceased from HIS work on the Seventh Day. GOD is already and forever Spirit. So HE did not enter enter into any Spiritual rest. He is our Spiritual rest. So we in harmony with Christ and the FATHER cease from our work on the Seventh Day as HE did. The Day HE hallowed (set apart) and blessed. If HE hallowed a Day who are we to unhallow it?
Hebrews 4:10 has nothing to do with Saturdays.

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Jesus worked on the Sabbath.

he did God's will.

The priest profane the Sabbath and are held blameless.

They did God's will.

We who God calls to be His Holy temples and Priests may work on the Sabbath if He calls us to work for Him.

I praise God when He gives me a day of rest, but I will not deny His calling if He asks me to work for His glory..no matter what day of the week it is.
 

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If you are breaking God's Commandments you are "UNDER THE LAW" not under GRACE because you have rejected the GIFT of God's dear SON. Those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNERPENTANT SIN do not KNOW God and are not UNDER the NEW COVENANT promise of GRACE.

Ask me to provide scripture?
I understand entirely that under the Adventist system of things that your interpretation would be exactly that.
It is quite consistent with Ellen G. Whites explicit direction that assurance of salvation cannot be taught because apparently people will not then follow the leading of the church in all things!
I get it....
I refuse to follow the direction of the Adventist church and that makes me apostate in their view, and horror of horrors, I worship on a Sunday and therefore carry the mark of the Beast!

However, I make my stand on this: "[FONT=&quot]8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot]9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot]10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.[/FONT]" Eph 2:8-10
 
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The veil remains in the heart of some. No matter how many scriptures are given, a harden heart will continue to be disobedient and not accept that salvation is by faith in Jesus alone.
Goodness Ariel ... the beam the beam (walls of scripture) ignored and not even responded to and not a single scirpture in support of your OP
 
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Jesus worked on the Sabbath.

he did God's will.

The priest profane the Sabbath and are held blameless.

They did God's will.

We who God calls to be His Holy temples and Priests may work on the Sabbath if He calls us to work for Him.

I praise God when He gives me a day of rest, but I will not deny His calling if He asks me to work for His glory..no matter what day of the week it is.
Jesus did God's WORK. He did not go out to earn a living and get paid or went out buying and selling.. I think he kicked those guys out of the temple that were doing that with a whip. He kept the Sabbath according to the commandment as did all the disciples. Read the scriptures.
 

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Absoutely and that is my point God's 4th Commandment says to keep God's Sabbath HOLY NO WORK is to be done on the SEVENTH DAY of the week because it is a HOLY day.

How can you keep GOd's Sabbath EVERY DAY if God's Sabbath is a HOLY DAY and NO WORK is to be done on it. God says six days you can labor and do all your work but the SEVENTH DAY is a HOLY REST day that NO WORK is to be done.

That is WHY you cannot keep God's SABBATH EVERY DAY,

GOD'S 4TH COMMANDMENT

Exodus 20
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Remember the SABBATH DAY, to KEEP IT HOLY. <Why?> Because God made it Holy for mankind and commands us to keep it as a Holy day)
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Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work:
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But the SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: <WHY>
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For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the SEVENTH DAY: wherefore the LORD BLESSED THE SABBATH, and HALLOWED IT.

You can worship GOD everyday and so we all should. This is different however from the 4th Commandment that is set apart by God from all the other days of the week as a HOLY DAY of rest redicated soley to the CREATOR where NO WORK is to be DONE
And who tells you Saturday is the 7th day?

God in His wisdom didn't even name the days during creation, He just said 1st/2nd/3rd/4th/5th/6th/7th because He knew what would come. Haven't you heard that the antichrist thinks of changing times and season (in Daniel)? well, he did wen the calendar changed to the current one. We can no longer say this is the 7th or even the 1st day- a whole 33 years can not be accounted for in our current calendar.

Isa 53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment; and who shall count his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living; for the rebellion of my people he was smitten.
 

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Absoutely and that is my point God's 4th Commandment says to keep God's Sabbath HOLY NO WORK is to be done on the SEVENTH DAY of the week because it is a HOLY day.

How can you keep GOd's Sabbath EVERY DAY if God's Sabbath is a HOLY DAY and NO WORK is to be done on it. God says six days you can labor and do all your work but the SEVENTH DAY is a HOLY REST day that NO WORK is to be done.

That is WHY you cannot keep God's SABBATH EVERY DAY,

GOD'S 4TH COMMANDMENT

Exodus 20
8,
Remember the SABBATH DAY, to KEEP IT HOLY. <Why?> Because God made it Holy for mankind and commands us to keep it as a Holy day)
9,
Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work:
10,
But the SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: <WHY>
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For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the SEVENTH DAY: wherefore the LORD BLESSED THE SABBATH, and HALLOWED IT.

You can worship GOD everyday and so we all should. This is different however from the 4th Commandment that is set apart by God from all the other days of the week as a HOLY DAY of rest redicated soley to the CREATOR where NO WORK is to be DONE
that command was given to Israel at Sinai, not the whole world. gentiles were never told to keep the Sabbath . in the book of Nehemiah , it records gentiles were told to stop coming to the city gates on the Sabbath, expecting to do business. why were they told this? because they knew nothing about it.
 
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Verses about seeing Jesus in all those we serve:

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Matthew 25:31-46 New International Versio

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.
 

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Goodness Ariel ... the beam the beam (walls of scripture) ignored and not even responded to and not a single scirpture in support of your OP
you mean the wall containing a few plucked out of context verses with a lot of sda/ ellen white propaganda? yeah, we are ignoring that wall.
 
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that command was given to Israel at Sinai, not the whole world. gentiles were never told to keep the Sabbath . in the book of Nehemiah , it records gentiles were told to stop coming to the city gates on the Sabbath, expecting to do business. why were they told this? because they knew nothing about it.
If you are NOT a part of God's ISRAEL you are NOT a part of the NEW COVENANT. Gentiles are NOW grafted in.

WHO ARE GOD'S ISRAEL IN THE NEW COVENANT?

THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: FOR YOU ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS AND IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN YOU ARE ABRAHAM'S SEED FOR YOU ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS and IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN ARE YOU ABRAHAM'S SEED, AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE (Galatians 3:28).

FOR THEY ARE NOT ALL ISRAEL WHICH ARE OF ISRAEL,: NEITHER, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SEED OF ABRAHAM, ARE THEY ALL CHILDREN: but in Isaac shall thy seed be called <Christ> That is, THEY WHICH ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE FLESH, THESE ARE NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD: BUT THE CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE <those who believe> ARE COUNTED FOR THE SEED (Romans 9:6).

FOR HE IS NOT A JEW WHICH IS ONE OUTWARDLY; NEITHER IS THAT CIRCUMCISION, WHICH IS OUTWARDS IN THE FLESH: BUT HE IS A JEW WHICH IS ONE INWARDLY; and CIRCUMCISION IS OF THE HEART, IN THE SPIRIT, AND NOT IN THE LETTER; whose praise is not of men, but of God. (Romans 2:28-29)

Colossians 3:11,
WHERE THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK
circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

Romans 10:11-13,
For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. FOR THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JEW OR GREEK: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. FOR WHOSOEVER SHALL CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED.

Hebrews 8:10-12,

BUT THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL; After those days, says the LORD, I WILL PUT MY LAW IN THEIR INWARD PARTS, AND WRITE IT IN THEIR HEARTS; and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

Gentiles are now grafted into God's ISRAEL (Romans 11:13-24)

God's ISRAEL in the NEW COVENANT are ALL those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD. God's Sabbath is an EVERLASTING and PERPETUAL Covenant that will be continued in the NEW EARTH (Isaiah 66:22-23)

Isaiah 66
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For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, said the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23, And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, said the LORD.

Yep seems like God says the Sabbath is an everlasting (FOREVER) Covenant with those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW the WORD of GOD (God's ISRAEL).



It seems God’s WORD disagrees with you.
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The remark that all would starve to death if all kept everyday holy is seeing things humanly. It is seeing humanly to see the law for the outside of a man. The law is spiritual and good. It is for the spirit of a man.

In a similar way, the sacraments of the church are outward displays of spiritual things that God does for us.

(I'm not saying this to argue with anyone who can't bear it yet. I'm saying it for anyone who is ready for moving on in the Spirit.)

Water baptism is a sacrament men perform, and have performed on them, by another man. Its a picture of a spiritual reality that God performs, the true Baptism with the Holy Spirit. A man is neither harmed nor helped to do it just as a man is neither harmed nor helped by circumcision in the flesh, which is a picture of a spiritual reality that is Circumcision of the heart by God.

The sacrament of communion is the same. It is a picture of a spiritual reality, which is God in you and the wonderful way He comes and shares a meal with you inside of you.

The sacraments are important in that they are physical things that help us to understand spiritual things. They are not the thing in themselves, but are like...a parable in a way, using the temporal to explain or help a man grasp a spiritual reality he has experienced or is experiencing.

The law can be looked at humanly and it can be understood in spirit and truth. There is no law against the spirit of things and no law against obedience in spirit and truth. But a man who hasn't begun to firmly walk in the Spirit can be pulled back and held back by other men who don't walk in the Spirit at all and who only see things humanly and for the outside of the cup.

I say this all for anyone who is ready to move on. The Spirit will help you begin to grasp these things and will tell you that I have spoken truly if you are ready for the meat.
 
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Do you feed the hungry with not only food that feds the body but offer them Manna from heaven?

Do you give drink to the thirsty of the living water flowing from your heart?

Do you invite the stranger into your home and heart?

Do you clothe the naked, tend the sick, visit the prisoners?

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The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.
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That is what it means to me to keep the Sabbath Holy.

What does it mean to You?
 
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you mean the wall containing a few plucked out of context verses with a lot of sda/ ellen white propaganda? yeah, we are ignoring that wall.
Just like he ignores the scriptures that support the OP.
 

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The remark that all would starve to death if all kept everyday holy is seeing things humanly. It is seeing humanly to see the law for the outside of a man. The law is spiritual and good. It is for the spirit of a man.
That remark was a joke and we were supposed to laugh together in Christ, why are you always this serious?
 
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Ok guys nice chatting with you, have to get some dinner now. Keep well. Seriously look at the scriptures shared with you and pray about them you do not need to reply to any of my posts if you do not want to.

You ignore God's WORD however at your own peril as we all have to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling. I am only here because I care for you and love you and do not want you to be lost (believe it or not)

God knows I pray for you all and care.

Let me know when you get some scripture that supports your OP here?
 
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In fact, I'm take my prior post and begin a thread so it will not be lost for anyone who is ready to bear (understand) it. That way it will remain the first post for any who will be helped in their understanding by it.
 
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That remark was a joke and we were supposed to laugh together in Christ, why are you always this serious?
Pretty sure LGF said it to me in all seriousness. He doesn't believe we can keep the Sabbath EVERY day.

He claims if we keep every day Holy we are to do no work and thus starve to death.

Jesus said we can do God's work even on the Sabbath.

The Bible also says to do ALL WORK as if FOR GOD NoT MAN.
 

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If you are NOT a part of God's ISRAEL you are NOT a part of the NEW COVENANT. Gentiles are NOW grafted in.

WHO ARE GOD'S ISRAEL IN THE NEW COVENANT?

THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: FOR YOU ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS AND IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN YOU ARE ABRAHAM'S SEED FOR YOU ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS and IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN ARE YOU ABRAHAM'S SEED, AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE (Galatians 3:28).

FOR THEY ARE NOT ALL ISRAEL WHICH ARE OF ISRAEL,: NEITHER, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SEED OF ABRAHAM, ARE THEY ALL CHILDREN: but in Isaac shall thy seed be called <Christ> That is, THEY WHICH ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE FLESH, THESE ARE NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD: BUT THE CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE <those who believe> ARE COUNTED FOR THE SEED (Romans 9:6).

FOR HE IS NOT A JEW WHICH IS ONE OUTWARDLY; NEITHER IS THAT CIRCUMCISION, WHICH IS OUTWARDS IN THE FLESH: BUT HE IS A JEW WHICH IS ONE INWARDLY; and CIRCUMCISION IS OF THE HEART, IN THE SPIRIT, AND NOT IN THE LETTER; whose praise is not of men, but of God. (Romans 2:28-29)

Colossians 3:11,
WHERE THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK
circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

Romans 10:11-13,
For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. FOR THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JEW OR GREEK: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. FOR WHOSOEVER SHALL CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED.

Hebrews 8:10-12,

BUT THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL; After those days, says the LORD, I WILL PUT MY LAW IN THEIR INWARD PARTS, AND WRITE IT IN THEIR HEARTS; and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

Gentiles are now grafted into God's ISRAEL (Romans 11:13-24)

God's ISRAEL in the NEW COVENANT are ALL those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD. God's Sabbath is an EVERLASTING and PERPETUAL Covenant that will be continued in the NEW EARTH (Isaiah 66:22-23)

Isaiah 66
22,
For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, said the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23, And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, said the LORD.

Yep seems like God says the Sabbath is an everlasting (FOREVER) Covenant with those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW the WORD of GOD (God's ISRAEL).



It seems God’s WORD disagrees with you.


God's word is Jesus. ( in the beginning was the Word....) , not Sabbath . Sabbath does not save. keeping it does make one holy. belief and faith in Jesus saves. not keeping the jewish Sabbath.
 
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