So many times in discussions I think we all fall victim to not talking about the same thing, although we perhaps think we do. I think it boils down to defining the debate. In this case "hypergrace".
I know this is meant as a derogatory term but this is what it means to me in the positive sense:
The Blood of Jesus and HIS righteousness is applied to me when I sinned in the past, sin today, or sin tomorrow.
This does NOT mean I have a license to sin, but instead this revelation has meant that I sin LESS. Which has truly freed me to grow in maturity in the Lord.
I believe Joanie, (ladylynn) and especially Bruce, were not only spot on in this matter, but were able to articulate this in a comprehensive and loving manner.
In the negative sense, I believe hypergrace errs terribly with this PHYSICAL healing, and TEMPORAL prosperity, in the atonement.I believe it is destructive and un-Biblical. As many of us have said ad nauseam, that doesn't mean the Lord cannot, nor does not heal. Only that it is in accordance with His Will and purposes.
I could be wrong, but I don't remember Bruce espousing this. Joanie has and does. I guess I can see a little bit this becoming a sinless perfection issue, which although not said, might be implied by both. But then again I have seen both vehemently strive against blatant sinless perfectionists here in the past. So I'm not sure that can stick.
In ALL matters I would implore my brothers and sisters to live 1 Corinthians 13, and if if/when you see me failing to do so, I'm charging you with calling me out on it!