And Marc, mere "results" are not said to vindicate anything ... God has supplied certain instructions for man to follow ... I don't see anywhere in the Bible where God says those rules can be broken if the "results" are pleasing ... Since you are now claiming that "results" are more important than the word of God, can you please show me that in the scripture ... And also you did not simply claim this to be "your approach" in the beginning ... In the beginning, you claimed your philosophy towards disciplining a child "should be" everyone's approach ...
An unsaved child could not be expected to appreciate what Jesus has done for him/her; nor can an unsaved parent teach these messages. I have been speaking of Christian discipline.