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I have already given countless warnings to everyone reading about dcon.
To the elders among you, I appeal as a fellow elder and a witness of Christ’s sufferings who also will share in the glory to be revealed: 2 Be shepherds of God’s flock that is under your care, watching over them—not because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be; not pursuing dishonest gain, but eager to serve; 3 not lording it over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock. 4 And when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that will never fade away.
5 In the same way, you who are younger, submit yourselves to your elders. All of you, clothe yourselves with humility toward one another, because,
“God opposes the proud
but shows favor to the humble.”
To the elders among you, I appeal as a fellow elder and a witness of Christ’s sufferings who also will share in the glory to be revealed: 2 Be shepherds of God’s flock that is under your care, watching over them—not because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be; not pursuing dishonest gain, but eager to serve; 3 not lording it over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock. 4 And when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that will never fade away.
5 In the same way, you who are younger, submit yourselves to your elders. All of you, clothe yourselves with humility toward one another, because,
“God opposes the proud
but shows favor to the humble.”
According to scripture all have sinned. The penalty of sin is death Accepting Jesus as our savior gives us the gift of God for eternal life. Therefore the only unforgivable sin is rejecting Jesus.
A man who committed unspeakable evil wrote a song about his conversion to Christianity, "Amazing Grace". He was captain of a slaver ship and when a ship is in a storm and possibly going to sink they throw cargo overboard. He did that more than once.
"Amazing grace how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me." With this background this song takes on a new meaning. He accepted Christ and was saved. No matter how horrid our deeds in the eyes of men Jesus can forgive them.
A man who committed unspeakable evil wrote a song about his conversion to Christianity, "Amazing Grace". He was captain of a slaver ship and when a ship is in a storm and possibly going to sink they throw cargo overboard. He did that more than once.
"Amazing grace how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me." With this background this song takes on a new meaning. He accepted Christ and was saved. No matter how horrid our deeds in the eyes of men Jesus can forgive them.
Only the original language writing is inspired by God. Translations are man's work and are fallible. Every translation has errors. Adding to this language changes over time. KJV was written in 1611 and kill then meant murder.
KJV Thou shalt not kill.
NIV You shall not murder.
This is only one example of the problem. Today the KJV is a bad translation because English 400 years ago is not the English of today. Keep in mind that Spanish, Portuguese, French, Rumanian, and a couple of other languages descend from Latin and are known as the Romance languages. That is what 2000 years does in languages.
KJV Thou shalt not kill.
NIV You shall not murder.
This is only one example of the problem. Today the KJV is a bad translation because English 400 years ago is not the English of today. Keep in mind that Spanish, Portuguese, French, Rumanian, and a couple of other languages descend from Latin and are known as the Romance languages. That is what 2000 years does in languages.
REMEMBER YOU SAID THAT,
in response to the question that Ariel82 asked:
If you don't have security in Christ what do you have?
John 10:27-28 (HCSB)
[SUP]27 [/SUP] My sheep hear My voice, I know them, and they follow Me.
[SUP]28 [/SUP] I give them eternal life, and they will never perish—ever!
No one will snatch them out of My hand.
Now you have stooped to have blasphemed the Words of Christ.
Get thee behind me.
in response to the question that Ariel82 asked:
If you don't have security in Christ what do you have?
John 10:27-28 (HCSB)
[SUP]27 [/SUP] My sheep hear My voice, I know them, and they follow Me.
[SUP]28 [/SUP] I give them eternal life, and they will never perish—ever!
No one will snatch them out of My hand.
Now you have stooped to have blasphemed the Words of Christ.
Get thee behind me.
I believe 7777 has commented that the unforgivable sin is not believing in Christ.
It seems like decon has at least made a brief confession of faith, but perhaps 7777 has a standard form for what he believes is a true confession of faith, and his form may be totally different from decon's form. If so, no false witness. Just a misunderstanding of forms.
It seems like decon has at least made a brief confession of faith, but perhaps 7777 has a standard form for what he believes is a true confession of faith, and his form may be totally different from decon's form. If so, no false witness. Just a misunderstanding of forms.
Speaking evil of Good is blasphemy of the Ruach of Life.
Adonai does not allow forgiveness for such.
And you can lie for dcon all you like.
It doesn't change the Truth.
Everyone can read for themselves how dcon has treated in written response to many posters that Are sons and daughters, co heirs with
The Holy One.
There is no excuse for the arrogance dcon has exhibited.
Simply Put.
No One sealed with the Ruach of Life would acost believers about their Confession.
Again everyone can read for themselves how this thread has only been used as a platform of deciet with the sole intention of violence toward anyone who rebuked dcon. For not being a believer.
Keen Eyes
Adonai does not allow forgiveness for such.
And you can lie for dcon all you like.
It doesn't change the Truth.
Everyone can read for themselves how dcon has treated in written response to many posters that Are sons and daughters, co heirs with
The Holy One.
There is no excuse for the arrogance dcon has exhibited.
Simply Put.
No One sealed with the Ruach of Life would acost believers about their Confession.
Again everyone can read for themselves how this thread has only been used as a platform of deciet with the sole intention of violence toward anyone who rebuked dcon. For not being a believer.
Keen Eyes
NO, it is an Updated Version from OLDER English Versions, a PARAPHRASE. They did it to UPDATE THE LANGUAGE AND CORRECT SOME KNOW ERRORS. The Original Translators, admitted it in the in their ORIGINAL 1611 KJV Preface.
The Translators To The Reader
. . . revising that which hath bene laboured by others, . . .
. . .
we building upon their foundation that went before us, and being holpen by their labours, doe endevour to make that better which they left so good;
. . . being rubbed and polished; also if any thing be halting, or superfluous, or not so agreeable to the originall, the same may bee corrected, and the trueth set in place. . . .
. . .
Now to the later we answere; that wee doe not deny, nay wee affirme and avow, that the very meanest {poorest} translation of the Bible in English, set foorth by men of our profession (for wee have seene none of theirs of the whole Bible as yet) containeth the word of God, nay, is the word of God. . . .
. . .
Truly (good Christian Reader) wee never thought from the beginning, that we should neede to make a new Translation, nor yet to make of a bad one a good one, . . . but to make a good one better, or out of many good ones, one principall good one, not justly to be excepted against; that hath bene our indeavour, that our marke.
. . .
{That makes it a PARAPHRASE and not an actual Translation from the original languages. They admitted they did not go to the original language text. They used mostly other older English Versions, and where there was some doubt, they chose to refer to the LATIN VERSION of the Scriptures.}
http://www.kjvbibles.com/kjpreface.htm
The Translators To The Reader
. . . revising that which hath bene laboured by others, . . .
. . .
we building upon their foundation that went before us, and being holpen by their labours, doe endevour to make that better which they left so good;
. . . being rubbed and polished; also if any thing be halting, or superfluous, or not so agreeable to the originall, the same may bee corrected, and the trueth set in place. . . .
. . .
Now to the later we answere; that wee doe not deny, nay wee affirme and avow, that the very meanest {poorest} translation of the Bible in English, set foorth by men of our profession (for wee have seene none of theirs of the whole Bible as yet) containeth the word of God, nay, is the word of God. . . .
. . .
Truly (good Christian Reader) wee never thought from the beginning, that we should neede to make a new Translation, nor yet to make of a bad one a good one, . . . but to make a good one better, or out of many good ones, one principall good one, not justly to be excepted against; that hath bene our indeavour, that our marke.
. . .
{That makes it a PARAPHRASE and not an actual Translation from the original languages. They admitted they did not go to the original language text. They used mostly other older English Versions, and where there was some doubt, they chose to refer to the LATIN VERSION of the Scriptures.}
http://www.kjvbibles.com/kjpreface.htm
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