Not By Works

[Nehemiah6]

What is your interpretation of Jam 2:14-26

That's a good question. The first thing to understand is that Scripture can never contradict Scripture, so this passage must be harmonized with the Gospel and the teaching about justification by grace alone through faith alone. That justification is in the eyes of God, and not man. It is God who declares a guilty sinner as being righteous, because his faith is imputed to him for righteousness. That faith is in Christ and His finished work of redemption.

14 What does it profit, my brethren, if a man says he has faith but has not works? Can his faith save him?

Notice "if a man SAYS he has faith". Some people can say they have faith but there is no inner reality. It is just an outward profession of faith.

15 If a brother or sister is ill-clad and in lack of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 So faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead.

This tells us that genuine faith produces righteous works. If a person does nothing for someone in need, then there is no real faith. Hence it is metaphorically "dead" (non-existent).

18 But some one will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I by my works will show you my faith.

Good works are outward proof of genuine faith. So this is consistent with Eph 2:8-10 which says that we have been saved "unto good works".

19 You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder. 20 Do you want to be shown, you shallow man, that faith apart from works is barren?

This tells us that one can have mental assent to God and to the Gospel without being saved, and even the demons believe that God exists but they are certainly not saved. However true saving faith will produce good works.

21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he offered his son Isaac upon the altar? 22 You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by works, 23 and the scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness”; and he was called the friend of God. 24 You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone. 25 And in the same way was not also Rahab the harlot justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way? 26 For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so faith apart from works is dead.

This is about being justified in the eyes of men. How will others know that you have been justified by grace through faith? By your obedience to God and your good works.

 

[Metternich]

That's a good question. The first thing to understand is that Scripture can never contradict Scripture, so this passage must be harmonized with the Gospel and the teaching about justification by grace alone through faith alone. That justification is in the eyes of God, and not man. It is God who declares a guilty sinner as being righteous, because his faith is imputed to him for righteousness. That faith is in Christ and His finished work of redemption.

Notice "if a man SAYS he has faith". Some people can say they have faith but there is no inner reality. It is just an outward profession of faith.

This tells us that genuine faith produces righteous works. If a person does nothing for someone in need, then there is no real faith. Hence it is metaphorically "dead" (non-existent).

Good works are outward proof of genuine faith. So this is consistent with Eph 2:8-10 which says that we have been saved "unto good works".

This tells us that one can have mental assent to God and to the Gospel without being saved, and even the demons believe that God exists but they are certainly not saved. However true saving faith will produce good works.

This is about being justified in the eyes of men. How will others know that you have been justified by grace through faith? By your obedience to God and your good works.

Thank you for your excellent exegesis. Your thoughts ar in line with mine. There is a post on the previous page by dcontroversal. I will try to post it below. What do you think of what he says.

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Re: Not By Works[/h]

Originally Posted by Endoscopy

On the other hand those who profess faith and have no works will not make the final cut as well. Faith without works is dead.

Methinks both are required. Faith saves and true faith generates works.



Your religion allow you to think that......the bible teaches differently......it is faith that save eternally without out one spiritual hoop jumping work added........maybe one day you can figure it out......

Start with...

NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS WHICH WE HAVE DONE, but according to HIS MERCY HAS HE SAVED US.

PAUL WAS CLEAR...either works or faith....not both....and Galatians was clear as well...a blend of the two = false gospel with no power....

so.....your METHINKS.....misses the mark and = a false gospel!​

 

[Metternich]

Your religion allow you to think that......the bible teaches differently......it is faith that save eternally without out one spiritual hoop jumping work added........maybe one day you can figure it out......

Start with...

NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS WHICH WE HAVE DONE, but according to HIS MERCY HAS HE SAVED US.

PAUL WAS CLEAR...either works or faith....not both....and Galatians was clear as well...a blend of the two = false gospel with no power....

so.....your METHINKS.....misses the mark and = a false gospel!

What is your interpretation of Jam 2:14-26
14 What does it profit, my brethren, if a man says he has faith but has not works? Can his faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is ill-clad and in lack of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 So faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead.
18 But some one will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I by my works will show you my faith. 19 You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder. 20 Do you want to be shown, you shallow man, that faith apart from works is barren? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he offered his son Isaac upon the altar? 22 You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by works, 23 and the scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness”; and he was called the friend of God. 24 You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone. 25 And in the same way was not also Rahab the harlot justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way? 26 For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so faith apart from works is dead.

 

[NoNameMcgee]

everyone

guilty of even 1 sin
is going to hell

this is just


but God is not only just

He is loving
and has an abundance of mercy

when Jesus died on the cross
this was a sacrifice in which
He payed for every sin of the WHOLE world....

so that those who believe on Him can be seen as sinless as He is


those who are born again

are adopted children

every single sin is covered by the blood of Jesus
(all glory goes to Him)

and we who have sinned but been born again

will have the imputed righteousness of Jesus Christ

our Lord and savior

we are justified by His righteousness

Romans 5:19

“For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.”


praise God

Matthew 7:21-23
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

The will of the Father

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
These men believe in their "wonderful works" to save them... not Jesus

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Because they have not submitted to His righteousness they will still have the sins they commit to answer for




__________


will of the Father?

40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day

one last post

i hope this isnt too long winded my friend


romans 9

30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.

31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.

32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.


Romans 10
10 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth




may God bless you

daily bump

very busy today



those who believe a false gospel (that works add to... earn... or keep salvation... or even that a born again child of God can lose salvation)

this is for you

and those still blown about by every wind of doctrine


this is for you


praise God

all glory to Him

 

[dcontroversal]

What is your interpretation of Jam 2:14-26
14 What does it profit, my brethren, if a man says he has faith but has not works? Can his faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is ill-clad and in lack of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 So faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead.
18 But some one will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I by my works will show you my faith. 19 You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder. 20 Do you want to be shown, you shallow man, that faith apart from works is barren? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he offered his son Isaac upon the altar? 22 You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by works, 23 and the scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness”; and he was called the friend of God. 24 You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone. 25 And in the same way was not also Rahab the harlot justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way? 26 For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so faith apart from works is dead.

Therefore we conclude that man is justified by faith without works <---What does PAUL say?

 

[Metternich]

Therefore we conclude that man is justified by faith without works <---What does PAUL say?

If you do not mind me asking, what is your denominational affiliation?

 

[dcontroversal]

If you do not mind me asking, what is your denominational affiliation?

If you read through the thread you will see that I hold to the same stance you do.....

Romans --->Therefore we conclude a man is justified by faith without works <--Paul speaking before GOD
James-->The above faith that justifies before God without works is seen by men based on our works <--James before men

I have always said that genuine faith will produce fruit or works but that the works or fruit DO NOT SAVE, KEEP SAVED, TOP OFF SALVATION, but rather are the results of salvation....

I have also always contended that those who have been saved by grace through faith HAVE ALREADY done the WORK of the Heavenly FATHER which is to believe on the one whom he has sent.

I have also always contended that ONE cannot produce 1 micro gram of works or fruit UNLESS they have already been placed into the VINE by FAITH and SALVATION ALREADY

I have also always contended the reason works do not save, keep saved or top off salvation is because it is CHRIST IN US and THROUGH US as a living sacrifice.....

I was raised in Landmark Missionary Baptist Church, went to seminary in Little Rock Arkansas.....and through study do not believe everything I was taught growing up.....However....I fully believe in eternal salvation, security, justification, sealing and sanctification in Christ for eternity based upon grace through faith.

Jesus is the beginner, finisher and completer of our faith and we are kept by the power of GOD............no one will ever change my mind on that one.......ever!

 

[Metternich]

Therefore we conclude that man is justified by faith without works <---What does PAUL say?

Well if you only want to talk about Paul explain Rom 2:6-10. James is a part of the inerrant Word of God it deserves some attempt to be harmonized with the rest of scripture.

6 For he will render to every man according to his works: 7 to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; 8 but for those who are factious and do not obey the truth, but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury. 9 There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, 10 but glory and honor and peace for every one who does good, the Jew first and also the Greek

 

[NoNameMcgee]

If you read through the thread you will see that I hold to the same stance you do.....

Romans --->Therefore we conclude a man is justified by faith without works <--Paul speaking before GOD
James-->The above faith that justifies before God without works is seen by men based on our works <--James before men

I have always said that genuine faith will produce fruit or works but that the works or fruit DO NOT SAVE, KEEP SAVED, TOP OFF SALVATION, but rather are the results of salvation....

I have also always contended that those who have been saved by grace through faith HAVE ALREADY done the WORK of the Heavenly FATHER which is to believe on the one whom he has sent.

I have also always contended that ONE cannot produce 1 micro gram of works or fruit UNLESS they have already been placed into the VINE by FAITH and SALVATION ALREADY

I have also always contended the reason works do not save, keep saved or top off salvation is because it is CHRIST IN US and THROUGH US as a living sacrifice.....

I was raised in Landmark Missionary Baptist Church, went to seminary in Little Rock Arkansas.....and through study do not believe everything I was taught growing up.....However....I fully believe in eternal salvation, security, justification, sealing and sanctification in Christ for eternity based upon grace through faith.

Jesus is the beginner, finisher and completer of our faith and we are kept by the power of GOD............no one will ever change my mind on that one.......ever!

amen brother

God bless you

 

[NoNameMcgee]

Well if you only want to talk about Paul explain Rom 2:6-10. James is a part of the inerrant Word of God it deserves some attempt to be harmonized with the rest of scripture.

6 For he will render to every man according to his works: 7 to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; 8 but for those who are factious and do not obey the truth, but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury. 9 There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, 10 but glory and honor and peace for every one who does good, the Jew first and also the Greek

please dont conflate chastening
rebuke
instruction to righteousness
commands

and requirement for or product of....


do you believe works can earn salvation?

keep salvation?
lose salvation?
regain salvation?


because if you want scripture to flow in perfect harmony (truth)

the answer to all of these is no

 

[BillG]

If you read through the thread you will see that I hold to the same stance you do.....

Romans --->Therefore we conclude a man is justified by faith without works <--Paul speaking before GOD
James-->The above faith that justifies before God without works is seen by men based on our works <--James before men

I have always said that genuine faith will produce fruit or works but that the works or fruit DO NOT SAVE, KEEP SAVED, TOP OFF SALVATION, but rather are the results of salvation....

I have also always contended that those who have been saved by grace through faith HAVE ALREADY done the WORK of the Heavenly FATHER which is to believe on the one whom he has sent.

I have also always contended that ONE cannot produce 1 micro gram of works or fruit UNLESS they have already been placed into the VINE by FAITH and SALVATION ALREADY

I have also always contended the reason works do not save, keep saved or top off salvation is because it is CHRIST IN US and THROUGH US as a living sacrifice.....

I was raised in Landmark Missionary Baptist Church, went to seminary in Little Rock Arkansas.....and through study do not believe everything I was taught growing up.....However....I fully believe in eternal salvation, security, justification, sealing and sanctification in Christ for eternity based upon grace through faith.

Jesus is the beginner, finisher and completer of our faith and we are kept by the power of GOD............no one will ever change my mind on that one.......ever!

Amen DC.

That is the truth.
And it's the truth that sets us free.

Free to be what we already are in Christ.

Children of the Father

 

[dcontroversal]

Well if you only want to talk about Paul explain Rom 2:6-10. James is a part of the inerrant Word of God it deserves some attempt to be harmonized with the rest of scripture.

6 For he will render to every man according to his works: 7 to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; 8 but for those who are factious and do not obey the truth, but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury. 9 There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, 10 but glory and honor and peace for every one who does good, the Jew first and also the Greek

James does harmonize when viewed in context......post 60107

 

[dcontroversal]

Amen DC.

That is the truth.
And it's the truth that sets us free.

Free to be what we already are in Christ.

Children of the Father

Amen bro....the truth is the truth........and it speaks loud and clear.....and in a very simple way for those who will listen.....

 

[mailmandan]

Well if you only want to talk about Paul explain Rom 2:6-10. James is a part of the inerrant Word of God it deserves some attempt to be harmonized with the rest of scripture.

6 For he will render to every man according to his works: 7 to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; 8 but for those who are factious and do not obey the truth, but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury. 9 There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, 10 but glory and honor and peace for every one who does good, the Jew first and also the Greek

If one were to read Romans 2:6-10 in isolation from the rest of the book of Romans, one might conclude that Paul was teaching salvation by works. However, as you read and study these passages, it's important to keep in mind that these verses do not describe how one becomes saved, but the way the saved (and unsaved) conduct their lives. These works done are the result of, not the means or basis of receiving salvation.

*We must not confuse DESCRIPTIVE passages of scripture with PRESCRIPTIVE passages of scripture.

So patient continuance in well doing, seeking for glory, honor, and immortality; (vs. 7) is not at all set forth as the means of their procuring eternal life, but as a description of those to whom God does render life eternal. *Notice that ALL who receive eternal life are described as such, everyone who does good (vs. 10).

Good deeds flow from a heart that is saved and evil deeds flow from a heart that is unsaved.

Verse 8 - but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness--indignation and wrath. *Notice that ALL who do not receive eternal life are described as such, everyone who does evil (vs. 9).

What those passages convey is that though our deeds are judged by God, it's not the good deeds themselves which are the basis or means of receiving salvation, but the type of deeds expose whether our heart was saved, or not. These deeds done out of faith are the fruit, not the root of our salvation.

If Paul wanted to teach that we are saved by works, then he would have clearly stated that we are saved through faith and works in Ephesians 2:8,9 and that we are justified by faith and works in Romans 5:1 but that is clearly NOT what Paul said. *Also see (Romans 4:2-6; Titus 3:5; 2 Timothy 1:9 etc..).

 

[BillG]

Amen bro....the truth is the truth........and it speaks loud and clear.....and in a very simple way for those who will listen.....

What I find very sad is that people who disagree with us, accuse us of that big word that means we can sin all we want.
There seems to be a twist for some reason.

If they can't pin us down on the above (which of course they can't because no genuine believer advocates that)
Then they say we encourage it, even when we do not and make it clear we do not.

So let's pull out the works card.

I have no idea why some are so bent on earning salvation. Proving to God they are worthy By their works.

 

[preacher4truth]

What I find very sad is that people who disagree with us, accuse us of that big word that means we can sin all we want.
There seems to be a twist for some reason.

If they can't pin us down on the above (which of course they can't because no genuine believer advocates that)
Then they say we encourage it, even when we do not and make it clear we do not.

So let's pull out the works card.

I have no idea why some are so bent on earning salvation. Proving to God they are worthy By their works.

Yep. Legalism, law-keeping plus Christ is a denial of the Gospel, and a fall from grace. Scripture calls this adding to the Gospel "another gospel" of which there is none; Galatians 1:8-10. As in Paul's day, the false gospel preaching legalist's always have a verse or proof text they use to declare the work of Christ insufficient.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Well if you only want to talk about Paul explain Rom 2:6-10. James is a part of the inerrant Word of God it deserves some attempt to be harmonized with the rest of scripture.

6 For he will render to every man according to his works: 7 to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; 8 but for those who are factious and do not obey the truth, but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury. 9 There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, 10 but glory and honor and peace for every one who does good, the Jew first and also the Greek

yes it does

and i already showd you in context james does not contradict paul. The people james spoke of NEVER HAD FAITH.

thats why they NEVER had works.

 

[VCO]

CAN YOU PROVIDE SCRIPTURES THAT SAYS JESUS WAS “CURSED" ASIDE FROM PAUL’S?

1 Corinthians 2:10-16 but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man’s spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words. The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man’s judgment: “For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ.

PAUL CLEARLY DESCRIBED WHO ARE THOSE HE CONSIDERED “CURSED”;

Galatians 3:10 All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”

UNDERSTANDING THE ABOVE VERSE WILL BRING US TO THE CORRECT UNDERSTANDING OF THE FF: VERSE;

Galatians 3:13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree.”

WE SHOULD ALL KNOW THAT THE LORD JESUS IS THE “WORD THAT BECAME FLESH" AND ACCORDING TO JOHN “THE WORD IS GOD". (john 1:1-3 & 14)

GOD IS THE SUPREME BEING AND AUTHORITY WHO CREATED THE LAW FOR MAN AND NOT FOR HIMSELF SO WHAT IS MAN TO CALL HIM “CURSED"?

WHO AMONG BELIEVERS WOULD QUESTION GOD’S VULNERABILITY TO CURSES OR WHATEVER EVIL ACTS AGAINST HIM? ...PETER EXPLAINS IT BETTER;

2 Peter 3:14-18 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are HARD TO UNDERSTAND, which IGNORANT and UNSTABLE people DISTORT, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction. Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the ERROR of lawless men and fall from your secure position. But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.


1 Timothy 6:3-5 If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

isaiah 5:20-24 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes and clever in their own sight. Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks, who acquit the guilty for a bribe, but deny justice to the innocent. Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for THEY HAVE REJECTED THE LAW OF THE LORD ALMIGHTY AND SPURNED THE WORD OF THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL.

.. GOD CANNOT BE MOCKED…

...LET GOD BE TRUE AND EVERY MAN A LIAR…

John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

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1 Corinthians 12:2-3 (NASB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] You know that when you were pagans, you were led astray to the mute idols, however you were led.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God says, "Jesus is accursed" {<G331> ANATHEMA}; and no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit.


Galatians 3:13-14 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Christ redeemed us from the curse <G2671> of the Law, having become a curse <G2671> for us
—for it is written, "CURSED <G1944>IS EVERYONE WHO HANGS ON A TREE"—
[SUP]14 [/SUP] in order that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

<G2671> KATARA

<G1944> EPIKATARATOS

You see, you really NEED TO examine the GREEK in words that there is a questionable translation on. ONLY THE "ANATHEMA" carries the forbidden meaning of that GREEK WORD pertaining to Christ. As you can see, there are at least THREE different words, that can be translated "Curse" or "Accursed". THEREFORE, you are incorrectly applying it to all THREE. Remember this: ENGLISH is a POOR Language at best, to translate the Bible into.

Here is another example. In English, we ONLY have THREE primary VERB TENSES, while in GREEK they have SIX primary VERB TENSES. Like I said, English is a POOR LANGUAGE to translate the Bible into.

Below the three crosses, will be those GREEK VERB TENSES, and NOTICE the One that causes the MOST confusion, is the one they call Present Tense. IT DOES NOT CARRY THE SAME MEANING as our English Present Tense. It is an action that is a lifelong continuous lifestyle. For example.
1 John 2:4 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

That word KEEPETH is in the GREEK PRESENT TENSE, it does NOT imply Perfection, IT IMPLIES a lifestyle of continual striving to KEEP. And when we FAIL, 1 John 1:9, that WE CONFESS is also in the PRESENT TENSE, implying we are habitually confessing each new sin that we find in our life.

How do I know which Verb Tense, is each verb? You go to the site listed at the bottom, then look up at the Menu Bar and you will find see the KJV with a space to the left of it to type in the Verse you want. Not all the Tools are there in all the version of the Bible, so leave it on the KJV. Then type in the verse, and it will open a new page, with the entire chapter. Then click on TOOLS to the left of that verse. That pops open another window pertaining to that one VERSE, and you will see to the right of the verb you are searching for, PARSE, so you click on the PARSE, and a smaller window with info on the VERB in question will pop up. The SECOND LINE should be the VERB TENSE.




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TENSE

Tense plays a very crucial role in the study of New Testament exegesis. Dana and Mantey understood its significance in saying that "no element of the Greek language is of more importance to the student of the New Testament than the matter of tense". [1] Tense deals both with time and kind of action. Ancient Greek focused more on the latter of these aspects (that is, kind of action); however, time does play a role in verb tense when the mood is indicative (the four moods are explained below).
The aspect of a verb correlates with the kind of action. It determines whether the verb's action is punctiliar, linear or perfected. These are described in the following table.
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[TR]
[TD]Punctiliar:[/TD]
[TD="width: 90"]

[/TD]
[TD="width: 215"]action that relates to a specific pointin time[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 90"]Linear:[/TD]
[TD="width: 90"]

[/TD]
[TD="width: 215"]action that is in the progress of occuring[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 90"]Perfected:[/TD]
[TD="width: 90"]

[/TD]
[TD="width: 215"]action that is both punctiliar and linear in that it refers to action relating to a point in time, yet has results that are in the progress of occuring[/TD]
[/TR]
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The Present TenseThe present tense can either be continuous/ongoing or undefined. The continuous present is usually translated as "I am loosing" while the undefined is best translated as "I loosen." When the present is used with the indicative mood it denotes present time.
The Pluperfect TenseThe pluperfect has the same aspect as the perfect, yet it's time is farther removed into the past than that of the perfect. Both the completed action and the results of that action occur in the past. It also represents action that is complete and viewed from a point in the past time. [3] The usual translation for the pluperfect is "I had loosened."
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Some preach works and faith, but only faith pleases God. And what is this faith if it is attached to works? Faith alone is so critical. If it is works, Christ didn’t need to die. If it is works and faith, the sacrifice of Christ wasn’t sufficient enough. In the OT, the sacrifice was accepted because the purity of the offering and the priest interceding. The offering for us is of the highest quality and the priest interceding the highest authority. Our forgiveness is between Christ and God. Once we died with Christ, and this losing our life, we are reborn into His life. The focus on works in Scripture is to bring us into a place of remembrance for our faith. It is putting a finger on a symptom, so that the healing truth can be ministered to the root. If we are not saved and empowered by His grace there are no true works.