Not By Works

[dcontroversal]

So, this is a Bible verse ? Which Bible version did you gather this verse from dc ?

Does not matter....they all say the same thing.....

New International Version
For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.

New Living Translation
So we are made right with God through faith and not by obeying the law.

English Standard Version
For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law.

Berean Study Bible
For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.

Berean Literal Bible
Therefore we reckon a man to be justified by faith apart from works of the Law.

New American Standard Bible
For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.

King James Bible
Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Christian Standard Bible
For we conclude that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.

Contemporary English Version
We see that people are acceptable to God because they have faith, and not because they obey the Law.

Good News Translation
For we conclude that a person is put right with God only through faith, and not by doing what the Law commands.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
For we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.

International Standard Version
For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the actions prescribed by the Law.

NET Bible
For we consider that a person is declared righteous by faith apart from the works of the law.

New Heart English Bible
For we maintain that one is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
We determine therefore that by faith a man is made righteous and not by the works of The Written Law.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
We conclude that a person has God's approval by faith, not by his own efforts.

New American Standard 1977
For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.

Jubilee Bible 2000
Therefore, we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

King James 2000 Bible
Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

American King James Version
Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

American Standard Version
We reckon therefore that a man is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.

Douay-Rheims Bible
For we account a man to be justified by faith, without the works of the law.

Darby Bible Translation
for we reckon that a man is justified by faith, without works of law.

English Revised Version
We reckon therefore that a man is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.

Webster's Bible Translation
Therefore we conclude, that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Weymouth New Testament
For we maintain that it is as the result of faith that a man is held to be righteous, apart from actions done in obedience to Law.

World English Bible
We maintain therefore that a man is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.

Young's Literal Translation
therefore do we reckon a man to be declared righteous by faith, apart from works of law.

 

[dcontroversal]

1 Corinthians 3:12-15 (HCSB)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] If anyone builds on that foundation with gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay, or straw,
[SUP]13 [/SUP] each one’s work will become obvious, for the day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire; the fire will test the quality of each one’s work.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] If anyone’s work that he has built survives, he will receive a reward.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] If anyone’s work is burned up, it will be lost, but he will be saved; yet it will be like an escape through fire.



NOW can we lay it to rest. SALVATION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WORKS. The works will be REWARDED, but SALVATION IS A FREE GIFT OF GOD.

AMEN.....a truth that all workers for and lawyers cannot grasp.......

 

[dcontroversal]

This isn't the first time he has failed to recognize a verse/the truth and has argued that it is a man's opinion. And it isn't with obscure verses that he has done it but rather with well known verses. He just needs to learn but wants to appear as if he doesnt.

I have a hard time believing that one who studies the word would not have recognized that verse as a bible verse...I mean...I have quoted it hundreds of times in this thread and other threads........anyway......it is what it is....

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

I have a hard time believing that one who studies the word would not have recognized that verse as a bible verse...I mean...I have quoted it hundreds of times in this thread and other threads........anyway......it is what it is....

Hopefully he will settle down and learn.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

So, this is a Bible verse ? Which Bible version did you gather this verse from dc ?

Do You ever give up? I see you are in here now throwing your stuff around,,

As for this, Really? You can not recognize this scripture?

Romans 3:28
Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law.

 

[loyaldisciple]

Therefore we conclude a man is justified by faith without the works/deeds of the law.

Well, you guys love to get "technical" and think you have someone in a corner, but it is you that have backed yourselves into a corner. let us go back just a few pages to prove just who has placed themselves into a corner. Now, dc stated the above words he posted were "scripture". That is what he said it is "scripture". Now for something to be "scripture", then it must be "exact scripture". One cannot add words/symbols, delete, nor change anything in any way for it to be scripture. You cannot show me one single version of the Bible that is printed "exactly" as shown above. Not one. There is no BIBLE written as "works/deeds", not one single version is presented exactly as that. Therefore, what you wrote is NOT any scripture. Rather it is a summation of scripture. For you to claim it IS "scripture" is to place yourself into judgment according to the verse below because it is NOT exact scripture.

REV 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

REV 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

What you wrote WAS NOT scripture, but your own summation, precisely as I said before. So, there is the first mistake you made in claiming it was scripture. Now, are you going to admit that what you wrote is NOT any exact scripture ? OR are you going to deny that mistake ?

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

Oh good grief...

 

[loyaldisciple]

Oh good grief...

For those who wish to be so "technical", then let us go down that road they have chosen. Nothing wrong with letting them choose their own road. I will easily show other mistakes that have been made here. Just let us take one issue at a time and allow everyone to learn something.

 

[VCO]

No such animal as "probably will again" when it comes to sin and or breaking the law....SEE you just cannot honestly say that you are a law breaker....you must hide it in the above statement....

Have a piece of cake man......

I take no pleasure whatsoever at all when one cannot be honest with the facts on the ground....and to be honest....a truthful statement about the fact that you break the law daily in some form not only melts away your law keeping drivel, it also proes your faith/law keeping mix to be incorrect and missing the mark.

THIS is for those who think they are LAW KEEPERS, when it is obvious that they are NOT.


1 Peter 2:13-16 (NKJV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Therefore submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake, whether to the king as supreme,
[SUP]14 [/SUP] or to governors, as to those who are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and for the praise of those who do good.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] For this is the will of God, that by doing good you may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men--
[SUP]16 [/SUP] as free, yet not using liberty as a cloak for vice, but as bondservants of God.

The signals will activate about 30 seconds before the train arrives.
NOTICE it says: STOP ON RED SIGNAL.

Signs are ORDINANCES of MAN.

Signs, Signs, everywhere there are Signs, do this, don't do that, CAN'T YOU READ THE SIGNS.


Signs when you leave the G out, only spells SINS.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Oh good grief...

Iggy time. I knew he was going to say that.

All he has left is to attack people. Because his truth falls on its face (lack of)

 

[Budman]

Well, you guys love to get "technical" and think you have someone in a corner, but it is you that have backed yourselves into a corner. let us go back just a few pages to prove just who has placed themselves into a corner. Now, dc stated the above words he posted were "scripture". That is what he said it is "scripture". Now for something to be "scripture", then it must be "exact scripture". One cannot add words/symbols, delete, nor change anything in any way for it to be scripture. You cannot show me one single version of the Bible that is printed "exactly" as shown above. Not one. There is no BIBLE written as "works/deeds", not one single version is presented exactly as that. Therefore, what you wrote is NOT any scripture. Rather it is a summation of scripture. For you to claim it IS "scripture" is to place yourself into judgment according to the verse below because it is NOT exact scripture.

Some versions say "works" of the Law and some say "deeds" of the Law. He put both to make this point: They mean exactly the same thing!

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

For those who wish to be so "technical", then let us go down that road they have chosen. Nothing wrong with letting them choose their own road. I will easily show other mistakes that have been made here. Just let us take one issue at a time and allow everyone to learn something.

You were the one being "technical." Everyone else knew the verse he was referring to.

 

[TruthTalk]

Therefore we conclude a man is justified by faith without the works/deeds of the law.

decons bible verse looks like a paraphrase of Romans3:28 to me. As long as a paraphrase does not conflict with the actual "meaning", of the bible verse it is perfectly acceptable to use a "paraphrase" when you are communicating God's word. Pastors and Teachers of God's word will paraphrase the bible when needed.

To Paraphrase the bible is not "taking away" or "adding to" the scriptures. Moreover to use Revelations22:18,19 to disprove the use of, "a paraphrase", is nonsense and a false interpretation of scripture.

Therefore we conclude a man is justified by faith without the works/deeds of the law.
(decons paraphrase of Romans3:28 He has not change the meaning of this bible verse).

Righteousness Through Faith: Romans3:28
"For we conclude that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law." (straight from the bible).

 

[loyaldisciple]

Iggy time. I knew he was going to say that.

All he has left is to attack people. Because his truth falls on its face (lack of)

The false accusations were begun against me. I haven't started anything here. I am simply going down this "technical" road others have chosen. There is plenty of truth to come, but let's take one issue at a time here. I am waiting for dc's response. We are going to see who admits truth and who does not.

 

[loyaldisciple]

Some versions say "works" of the Law and some say "deeds" of the Law. He put both to make this point: They mean exactly the same thing!

He did not print the exact words of ANY scripture. When one changes a verse, even the slightest, then it is no longer scripture. The Bible explains this very clearly.

 

[loyaldisciple]

You were the one being "technical." Everyone else knew the verse he was referring to.

No, I wasn't being technical at that time either. I simply said it was his words because I didn't recognize it as scripture. Turns out, it wasn't scripture and I was correct in saying it was his words. But I was attacked and then called a "deceiver", which is entirely false. I will also prove that "works" are VERY important, which others have stated they mean absolutely nothing and that also is false. Now, I just want to take one issue at a time. As soon as I joined this thread, I replied to the OP. I had not read the entire thread at that moment, but I have now. dc did post his words and not any exact scripture. That is the first issue to settle. If truth cannot be admitted then there is no point in proceeding with any discussion. We are going to find out who is on the side of truth and who is not.

 

[loyaldisciple]

decons bible verse looks like a paraphrase of Romans3:28 to me. As long as a paraphrase does not conflict with the actual "meaning", of the bible verse it is perfectly acceptable to use a "paraphrase" when you are communicating God's word. Pastors and Teachers of God's word will paraphrase the bible when needed.

To Paraphrase the bible is not "taking away" or "adding to" the scriptures. Moreover to use Revelations22:18,19 to disprove the use of, "a paraphrase", is nonsense and a false interpretation of scripture.


Righteousness Through Faith: Romans3:28
"For we conclude that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law." (straight from the bible).

This is entirely your own earthly opinion and false. The Bible does not permit "paraphrasing". It clearly states the words are not to be added to nor subtracted from in any way. Show me any verse within the Bible that permits "paraphrasing".

 

[TruthTalk]

Some versions say "works" of the Law and some say "deeds" of the Law. He put both to make this point: They mean exactly the same thing!

Thank you Budman this is exactly what everybody is saying, thank you again.

 

[Budman]

He did not print the exact words of ANY scripture. When one changes a verse, even the slightest, then it is no longer scripture. The Bible explains this very clearly.

Did you happen to see all the versions of that verse he posted above?

What do they say to you?

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

As I said in the women preachers thread, lg, you are a lawyer and you don't know any of the spirit of the word.