Are women allowed to Preach?

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hornetguy

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It's funny how Pontiac wrote the same things as Lloyd. Then Pontiac even complains to Robo's visitor page, about the same complaints as Lloyd. Pontiac closes account, ant the same time loyaldeciple appears. Taking the same position, writing the same post. Hmmmm.
purely coincidence..... you're too young to be that cynical.... :cool:
 

CS1

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It's funny how Pontiac wrote the same things as Lloyd. Then Pontiac even complains to Robo's visitor page, about the same complaints as Lloyd. Pontiac closes account, ant the same time loyaldeciple appears. Taking the same position, writing the same post. Hmmmm.
hmmm, hmmmm , hmmmmm
 
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AuntieAnt

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It's funny how Pontiac wrote the same things as Lloyd. Then Pontiac even complains to Robo's visitor page, about the same complaints as Lloyd. Pontiac closes account, ant the same time loyaldeciple appears. Taking the same position, writing the same post. Hmmmm.
Yeah, I saw that, too. But I'm over being mindful of his antics. I actually reported myself for posting sarcastic gifs, (twice and to two different admins). I also asked for mercy for being out of line. And I quit afterward. Evidently, the admins forgave me and showed me grace.

The truth is, what I spiritually discerned going on in this thread, as I’m sure most people did, were silly monkeys tapping on keyboards without understanding, just doing the same thing over & over for attention. And I saw children stomping, yelling, name calling, and taking temper tantrums because they wanted their own way. Because in reality, that’s what our flesh is: beastly, blind, immature, selfish, foolish. Just strife, confusion and every evil work. Unfortunately, I reacted to it in the flesh and didn’t wait on the Lord.

After I posted those sarcastic gifs, I had no peace and was disturbed in my spirit. Today, while waiting on the Lord, I saw the truth that there can be no understanding of scripture without the knowledge of God ruling in our heart. And if God is ruling in our heart, we wouldn’t be trying to defend a belief, we would be rejoicing in the Lord and glorifying Him. Our minds would be so occupied by blessing the Lord, so filled with worship of Him in our hearts, we wouldn’t waste our time trying to coax or badger people to believe in our belief sytem of our beliefs. We'd be lifting up Jesus.
 
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Yeah, I saw that, too. But I'm over being mindful of his antics. I actually reported myself for posting sarcastic gifs, (twice and to two different admins). I also asked for mercy for being out of line. And I quit afterward. Evidently, the admins forgave me and showed me grace.

The truth is, what I spiritually discerned going on in this thread, as I’m sure most people did, were silly monkeys tapping on keyboards without understanding, just doing the same thing over & over for attention. And I saw children stomping, yelling, name calling, and taking temper tantrums because they wanted their own way. Because in reality, that’s what our flesh is: beastly, blind, immature, selfish, foolish. Just strife, confusion and every evil work. Unfortunately, I reacted to it in the flesh and didn’t wait on the Lord.

After I posted those sarcastic gifs, I had no peace and was disturbed in my spirit. Today, while waiting on the Lord, I saw the truth that there can be no understanding of scripture without the knowledge of God ruling in our heart. And if God is ruling in our heart, we wouldn’t be trying to defend a belief, we would be rejoicing in the Lord and glorifying Him. Our minds would be so occupied by blessing the Lord, so filled with worship of Him in our hearts, we wouldn’t waste our time trying to coax or badger people to believe in our belief sytem of our beliefs. We'd be lifting up Jesus.
"IF ANY MAN PREACH ANY OTHER GOSPEL, LET HIM BE ACCURSED" (GALATIANS 1:6-9)!

PAUL TAUGHT THE "GOSPEL OF CHRIST" AND "CHRIST IS SPIRIT" (ROMANS 1:16) WHICH "IS THE POWER OF GOD" WHO "PRODUCES ALL OF OUR ACTIONS" AFTER WE HAVE BEEN BAPTIZED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT (I CORINTHIANS 12:13)!

PHILIPPIANS 2:13 "IT IS GOD WHO WORKETH IN US BOTH TO WILL AND TO DO OF *HIS* GOOD PLEASURE!"

IT'S TOO BAD YOU DON'T LET THE HOLY SPIRIT LEAD YOU INSTEAD OF "MEN!"
 
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loyaldisciple

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Yeah, I saw that, too. But I'm over being mindful of his antics. I actually reported myself for posting sarcastic gifs, (twice and to two different admins). I also asked for mercy for being out of line. And I quit afterward. Evidently, the admins forgave me and showed me grace.

The truth is, what I spiritually discerned going on in this thread, as I’m sure most people did, were silly monkeys tapping on keyboards without understanding, just doing the same thing over & over for attention. And I saw children stomping, yelling, name calling, and taking temper tantrums because they wanted their own way. Because in reality, that’s what our flesh is: beastly, blind, immature, selfish, foolish. Just strife, confusion and every evil work. Unfortunately, I reacted to it in the flesh and didn’t wait on the Lord.

After I posted those sarcastic gifs, I had no peace and was disturbed in my spirit. Today, while waiting on the Lord, I saw the truth that there can be no understanding of scripture without the knowledge of God ruling in our heart. And if God is ruling in our heart, we wouldn’t be trying to defend a belief, we would be rejoicing in the Lord and glorifying Him. Our minds would be so occupied by blessing the Lord, so filled with worship of Him in our hearts, we wouldn’t waste our time trying to coax or badger people to believe in our belief sytem of our beliefs. We'd be lifting up Jesus.
God is ruling in my heart just fine Auntie. That is why I'm going to go ahead and let you and your friends have your earthly opinions and not attempt to give you any more truth on the subject of women preaching inside the church unto men. The scripture is extremely clear about this. However, for those of you who wish to disregard the scripture that is your choice.

All anyone has to do is to go back and actually read this thread and the truth of where the childish antics came from will be rather obvious to them. You even just admitted to it yourself, and at the same time you continue more blaming of others. That is why God was giving you no peace Auntie. Because you didn't like the truth of scripture given to you and you then resorted to childish and angry insults, just as several of your friends have done.

I'm prepared to let the subject rest now. Truth has been told. Whether people choose to believe it or not is up to them.
 
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AuntieAnt

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God is ruling in my heart just fine Auntie. That is why I'm going to go ahead and let you and your friends have your earthly opinions and not attempt to give you any more truth on the subject of women preaching inside the church unto men. The scripture is extremely clear about this. However, for those of you who wish to disregard the scripture that is your choice.

All anyone has to do is to go back and actually read this thread and the truth of where the childish antics came from will be rather obvious to them. You even just admitted to it yourself, and at the same time you continue more blaming of others. That is why God was giving you no peace Auntie. Because you didn't like the truth of scripture given to you and you then resorted to childish and angry insults, just as several of your friends have done.

I'm prepared to let the subject rest now. Truth has been told. Whether people choose to believe it or not is up to them.
None of what you just posted is exalting Jesus. Everything you just posted is in defense of your flesh and your own understanding.
 
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loyaldisciple

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None of what you just posted is exalting Jesus. Everything you just posted is in defense of your flesh and your own understanding.
Again, you're welcome to your opinion. Actually, I think it exalts Jesus and the Father quite a bit when I stand up and deliver scripture "exactly as it is written". I didn't just give my opinion on this subject. I passed along the word of the Almighty. I just can't make anyone to hear it. You are fooling yourself Auntie. It is not those who follow the scripture exactly that are relying on their own understanding. It is those listening to society, twisting scripture and searching for a way to avoid it that are relying on their own understanding.
 

Dino246

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It is those listening to society, twisting scripture and searching for a way to avoid it that are relying on their own understanding.
Evidence of this? Who, among the contributors to this thread, can you prove have been listening to society?

Or is this just more misrepresentation and baseless slander?
 
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AuntieAnt

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Again, you're welcome to your opinion. Actually, I think it exalts Jesus and the Father quite a bit when I stand up and deliver scripture "exactly as it is written". I didn't just give my opinion on this subject. I passed along the word of the Almighty. I just can't make anyone to hear it. You are fooling yourself Auntie. It is not those who follow the scripture exactly that are relying on their own understanding. It is those listening to society, twisting scripture and searching for a way to avoid it that are relying on their own understanding.
And again, you are defending your belief and your own understanding (flesh). I'm not interested in my opinion or yours.

The kingdom of God is in an unseen realm. As long as your eyes are on yourself or on others, you are walking in the flesh. And everything you are saying pertains to the flesh.

To exalt Jesus would be to have your eyes on Jesus. Your words would be about Jesus. You would be walking in the peace of Jesus and not speaking from the flesh.
 
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And again, you are defending your belief and your own understanding (flesh). I'm not interested in my opinion or yours.

The kingdom of God is in an unseen realm. As long as your eyes are on yourself or on others, you are walking in the flesh. And everything you are saying pertains to the flesh.

To exalt Jesus would be to have your eyes on Jesus. Your words would be about Jesus. You would be walking in the peace of Jesus and not speaking from the flesh.
How do you figure it is "my understanding" when I agree with the clearly written scripture to a tee ? That is what God has said, it isn't what I say. When I believe in the scripture my eyes surely are not on myself, they are focused on Him. One doesn't speak from the flesh when they deliver the true scripture. I can't help it when you don't like what it says. Look Auntie we can probably agree on a million things. This just isn't going to be one of them.
 
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How do you figure it is "my understanding" when I agree with the clearly written scripture to a tee ? That is what God has said, it isn't what I say. When I believe in the scripture my eyes surely are not on myself, they are focused on Him. One doesn't speak from the flesh when they deliver the true scripture. I can't help it when you don't like what it says. Look Auntie we can probably agree on a million things. This just isn't going to be one of them.
Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. Would you say 650+ posts about
what you think and what you believe is abundant?

There have been so many studies of the scriptures, verse-by-verse translations, references, commentaries, exegeses, etc. written by people of various denominations and religious sects, all claiming they have the truth. A whole conglomeration of teaching and preaching hinged on religious laws and traditions, and snowballed into what is handed down to us today. Conflicting opinions.

But there is only one truth. It is Jesus Christ, the hope of our calling. Jesus Christ is the only truth that is our foundation. We are being regenerated into His image by Him alone, and only He can make us witnesses in this earth by His Spirit within us.

Saints of God are matured by God, and used by God, for His plans and purpose. He makes some apostles, prophets, ministers, evangelists, pastors, & teachers, so that the body of Christ is edified and brought into a unity of faith. These are not ministries we choose ourselves. These gifts and calling are Christ Jesus in operation. They are not human efforts. They are not self-assigned ministries. They are not elected for or by men. God Himself calls each one to a ministry and He receives all the glory.

There is only one perfect image of God and that is Jesus Christ. We grow into His knowledge as we look to Him and listen to His Spirit. Those who are in Christ know they are vessels in which His Spirit dwells. He is the One who guides us and makes us more and more into His nature. Those who are born from above are a living testimony that God is their Father. These are the ones who receive revelation of the new life in Christ and are assured that God reigns in them.

Those who walk in their own understanding will continue to grope around in their own understanding and be compelled to continually justify themselves. They can only speak about what they think. A son of God is justified in Christ. When our eyes are on the Lord, He will speak through us.
 
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AuntieAnt

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Jesus said, “And the Father who sent Me has Himself testified concerning Me. You have never heard His voice nor seen His form, nor does His word dwell in you, for you don’t believe the One He sent. You study the scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very scriptures that testify about Me, yet you refuse to come to Me to have life.”

Jesus was speaking to religious people who continually studied and quoted scripture, who used scripture to judge and control others. But they were trusting in their own natural understanding of the written words. They didn’t hear spiritual truth. They didn’t hear God’s Voice. They had faith in themselves.

The scriptures held no life in them, because they were just words they studied and memorized and quoted. The scriptures were pointing to Jesus, who was standing right in front of them, offering them life eternal. But they hung onto the scriptures instead, believing their own understanding gave them life. They wouldn’t realize their natural understanding, their intellect, could not bring life.

Those who refuse to come to Jesus and instead trust in what they believe about the scriptures are rejecting life. They don’t believe they need God but are instead trusting in themselves and their own efforts to quote words that have no spiritual meaning to them. They won’t abandon their carnal mind to God.

Life is only found in Christ. It is not found in the things which are seen. The Lord enters our hearts, penetrates our consciousness, renews our mind, makes His Spirit real to us by His Spirit. It isn’t something we can comprehend in our own understanding with the natural intellect. Every single man must surrender to God and be taught by His Spirit and God will teach him to hear His Voice. That is the only reality, the spiritual life. We are quickened by God Himself to be His sons.

If your faith is in what you believe, you aren’t abiding in God and you can’t believe the One He sent ~ Jesus Christ. If your belief is in your knowing the scriptures, you don’t have life. Because the scriptures point to the One who gives life. Life is not in written words, but in the Living Word.

 

Didymous

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God is ruling in my heart just fine Auntie. That is why I'm going to go ahead and let you and your friends have your earthly opinions and not attempt to give you any more truth on the subject of women preaching inside the church unto men. The scripture is extremely clear about this. However, for those of you who wish to disregard the scripture that is your choice.

All anyone has to do is to go back and actually read this thread and the truth of where the childish antics came from will be rather obvious to them. You even just admitted to it yourself, and at the same time you continue more blaming of others. That is why God was giving you no peace Auntie. Because you didn't like the truth of scripture given to you and you then resorted to childish and angry insults, just as several of your friends have done.

I'm prepared to let the subject rest now. Truth has been told. Whether people choose to believe it or not is up to them.
Sir, you said you were prepared to let the subject rest now.
Did you forget? I know you can do it.
 
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loyaldisciple

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[video=youtube;3ZOemq4vEaw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZOemq4vEaw[/video]
 
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I'd rather hear a woman preach than that have man with the funny accent shout at me. He didn't use much scripture did he? He just kept ranting on about his own ideas.
 
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loyaldisciple

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I'd rather hear a woman preach than that have man with the funny accent shout at me. He didn't use much scripture did he? He just kept ranting on about his own ideas.
So, you consider the fact that the Bible is "true" just to be an idea, do you ? If you don't consider scripture to be true, then why do you ever read it ? Do you consider the Bible to be "true" or "false" ? If you consider it true, then you will agree with him. And if you consider it false, then why do you pretend to trust it ? He told you the Bible is true and you would be wise to believe it.
 

trofimus

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If a wife must be submitted to her husband, how can she be his leader, teacher and pastor?
 
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If a wife must be submitted to her husband, how can she be his leader, teacher and pastor?
What if my wife was saved years before me and has more Biblical knowledge than I do? I can't ask her a question because she is a woman? I should pretend to teach her something I have not researched myself?
 
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Originally Posted by loyaldisciple

God is ruling in my heart just fine Auntie. That is why I'm going to go ahead and let you and your friends have your earthly opinions and not attempt to give you any more truth on the subject of women preaching inside the church unto men. The scripture is extremely clear about this. However, for those of you who wish to disregard the scripture that is your choice.
Earthly opinions? And from what planet do you offer yours from?