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Eschatology is the study of end times scripture. Taking it as a whole there are too many sections of scripture that have never happened. Therefore your concept of 70AD fails to be true. Especially that Jesus will rule from the throne literally in Jerusalem Israel. Where is he!!
Eschatology is the study of end times scripture. Taking it as a whole there are too many sections of scripture that have never happened. Therefore your concept of 70AD fails to be true. Especially that Jesus will rule from the throne literally in Jerusalem Israel. Where is he!!
I recently received an email from Mike Rogers. It is fitting to our discussion. Most of the below is from his email but altered by me to stress certain points. Please give it a read and may you receive ablessing:
The existing prophetic models—historicpremillennialism, dispensational premillennialism, postmillennialism, and amillennialism—are inadequate. They do not explain the Bible’s entire prophetic message adequately and without conflicts. One problem involves prophetic time statements. For example, Jesus said, “There be somestanding here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of mancoming in his kingdom” (Matt. 16:28). And, he placed his parousia—which current prophetic models call his second coming—in His generation (Matt. 24:3, 27, 34, 37, 39). Such statements present problems for all current prophetic models.
C.S. Lewis, one of thegreatest defenders of the Christian faith, once stated:
“Saywhat you like, we shall be told, ‘the apocalyptic beliefs of the first Christians have been proved to be false. It is clear from the New Testament that they all expected the Second Coming in their own lifetime. And, worse still, they had a reason, and one which you will find very embarrassing. Their Master had told them so. He shared, and indeed created, their delusion. He saidin so many words, ‘this generation shall not pass till all these things bedone.’ And He was wrong. He clearly knew no more about the end of the worldthan anyone else.’ It is certainly the most embarrassing verse in the Bible.”
This is really sad because the Master was correct. The fault isn’t with Him; the fault lies with us and our inability to comprehend what was taught and what was to be expected, and when. What you,and others (collectively I will call “you”), do is frankly embarrassing. You do the very things you accuse me of doing. You perform various mental gymnastics to prophesyin an attempt to get it to fit into your preconceived eschatological view. You invent things like “Dual Fulfillment” and “This didn’t happen so let’s put it in the future” which I call, “Elastic Time,” a mis-use of Peter’s “one day is with the Lord as athousand years, and a thousand years as one day” (2 Pet 3:8). You add gaps, sometimes of thousands of years, calling it “metaphorical” where no gap is taught. You also employ “Prophetic Perspective”meaning when a prophet uses words like, “soon,” “quickly,” “nigh,” “thisgeneration,” “near” etc. you imply that it only appeared near to the prophet because he could not see intervening time periods. When all else fails, you use one of these above qualifiers.
Instead weneed to approach the Bible in these 5 ways which I try to do:
Authority: I assume the verbal, plenary inspiration ofScripture (2 Tim. 3:16). The Bible is God-breathed and authoritative. “The OldTestament in Hebrew, and the New Testament in Greek are immediately inspired byGod.” What He says, goes.
Hermeneutics: Authorial intent—human and divine—iscritical to the proper understanding of a passage. Context is the mostimportant factor in determining that intent. Previous usage often determinesthe meaning of prophetic images.
AudienceIntegrity: Who was the author writing toand did the message apply to his audience or some distant future audience? Were words of comfort, advise and prophesymeant for them or someone else?
Perspicuity: God intends for his people to understand theScriptures. God hid some mysteries until the Messianic Age. He has now revealedthem “unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit” (Eph 3:5). Some thingsare difficult to decipher (2 Pet. 3:16). With study and the illumination of theHoly Spirit we can rightly divide the word of truth (2 Tim. 2:15).Understanding prophecy is possible.
And finally,and this is the big one. If you cannotdo this, you will never understand.
The analogyof faith: To discover the propheticmodel built into Scripture, we must risk something. We must acknowledge our preconceptions andbiases. A text’s meaning cannot rest onits conformity to our previous assumptions. Scripture must interpret Scriptureand tradition must give way to the Word of God.
Do this,and perhaps I can help you.
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End,
It most certainly did happen and it was recorded in history, as was the resurrection. Your ignorance of history and bias towards your views doesn't mean Christ didn't return and resurrect the dead and put fear into those who saw Him, all of which happened in the first century - to THAT GENERATION - as Jesus Himself clearly taught.
Roman historian, Cassius Dio, records the resurrection as it was happening in Rome.
Josephus records Christ's return with His angelic army.
It most certainly did happen and it was recorded in history, as was the resurrection. Your ignorance of history and bias towards your views doesn't mean Christ didn't return and resurrect the dead and put fear into those who saw Him, all of which happened in the first century - to THAT GENERATION - as Jesus Himself clearly taught.
Roman historian, Cassius Dio, records the resurrection as it was happening in Rome.
Josephus records Christ's return with His angelic army.
No, I am not asking you to believe that at all. Who said anything about there being no evil on earth? You must have some preconceived notions about some passage that was misinterpreted and explained incorrectly to you? Can I assume you are speaking about Rev 20? Satan being bound does not mean the end of evil on earth. Read the passage again. It says he will not deceive the nations for a thousand years. This passage was written in the first century AD by John who was a subject of the Roman Empire under Caesars who demanded to be worshiped as God. Caesars actually claimed to be God and above all other gods. This deception ended by the 3rd century when Constantine declared Christianity to be the official religion of Rome when more than half of the Roman Empire (the known world) were self-declared Christians.
I suggest you read the chapter again. Satan is loosed after the thousand years THEN he is judged.
Rev 20
10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulphur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Following is the white throne judgement.
After that in Rev 21 read about the new heavens, the new earth and the New Jerusalem (The bride of The Lamb)
Rev 20
10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulphur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Following is the white throne judgement.
After that in Rev 21 read about the new heavens, the new earth and the New Jerusalem (The bride of The Lamb)
I understand these things. At 73 I have been an elder and deacon in 3 churches (I moved twice) and the pastors had a week long class in the evening or all day on Saturday that new deacons and elders had to attend. They discussed doctrine and eschatology. Doctrine is very clear cut but eschatology is as clear as mud. Daniel and Revelation are eschatologyical books and Daniel says it is closed until the end times and Revelation is the same. The reason being they are written in symbolic language. In my last church there ware 4 pastors at that time. Each adhered to a different view of the 4 views of eschatology. They all admitted they could be wrong.
Each denomination has public documents available on line about their doctrinal view of the Bible. RCA for example has the Cannons of Dort and Heidelberg Catechism. Each also has their Book of Church Order that defines the denomination government and includes pointing to the documents that define their view of the Bible.
Each denomination has public documents available on line about their doctrinal view of the Bible. RCA for example has the Cannons of Dort and Heidelberg Catechism. Each also has their Book of Church Order that defines the denomination government and includes pointing to the documents that define their view of the Bible.
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Brother Endoscopy,
Let me put this another way then. When Jesus rules in Jerusalem for the mill, will we see His face?
Will the world see His face? Ex 33:20
When do we see His face?
Almost all of scripture has been fulfilled, except the 2nd coming.
You really don't know my total views on the 70 ad thing. You presume to put people into boxes and assume that everybody believes the same thing.
Some things that I have said are not in any of the 4 views.
He is in heaven ruling from the eternal throne of David, the throne of God.
You're thoughts that He will sit on a literal throne in Jerusalem is completely false, as the throne and glory of His face drives away every imperfect entity, this earth and heavens. Rev 20.
Jesus said that His kingdom is not of this world, but you say that it is.
Jesus said that when the kingdom comes that it will not be seen here or there, but you say that it will be defined by literal land mass borders, such as Israel.
And you still have not replied to Heb 1:2, on the last days issue.
Let me put this another way then. When Jesus rules in Jerusalem for the mill, will we see His face?
Will the world see His face? Ex 33:20
When do we see His face?
Almost all of scripture has been fulfilled, except the 2nd coming.
You really don't know my total views on the 70 ad thing. You presume to put people into boxes and assume that everybody believes the same thing.
Some things that I have said are not in any of the 4 views.
He is in heaven ruling from the eternal throne of David, the throne of God.
You're thoughts that He will sit on a literal throne in Jerusalem is completely false, as the throne and glory of His face drives away every imperfect entity, this earth and heavens. Rev 20.
Jesus said that His kingdom is not of this world, but you say that it is.
Jesus said that when the kingdom comes that it will not be seen here or there, but you say that it will be defined by literal land mass borders, such as Israel.
And you still have not replied to Heb 1:2, on the last days issue.
End,
Thank you for sharing this. Most likely all four were wrong. Can we agree there is only one correct view? I can tell you that when Daniel was discussing "the time of the end" he was speaking about the end of his nation, Israel, which history tells us happened in 70 AD. This was the desolation he discussed at the end of Chapter 9. The "time of distress" in Dan 12:1 was the siege of Jerusalem by Titus in early 70 AD. 93% of the Jewish population from all over the world were trapped inside the city. Most starved to death and many were killed by fellow Jews.
Jesus refers exactly to this in Luke 19:
"The days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment against you and encircle you and hem you in on every side. [SUP]44 [/SUP]They will dash you to the ground, you and the children within your walls. They will not leave one stone on another, because you did not recognize the time of God’s coming to you.”
That was the Great Tribulation. That was the "end of the age or ages" as it was the end of Israel. Most of the Bible chronicles the history of Israel thus it concludes with the end of Israel. We are in the new age now spoken of by Paul and the writers of Hebrews. We Christians all make up the spiritual temple, which is the only temple Christ reigns in.
What does Paul say in 1 Cor 10:11?
They were living in those last days as Peter affirms in Act 2-3. They were the last days of Israel, NOT the end of the cosmos, as you wrongly believe. It was also the end of the Law, the Mosaic Age. The new age, the age to come, is the Messianic Age. This is our age. Some call it the "millennium" although they don't realize we are living in it now. We have the indwelling of the Lord, we are new creations - RIGHT NOW. We don't face death in that we don't go to Hades (Shoel) anymore. We go straight to heaven.
Don't you realize that "all things have been made new?" This does not apply to insects, weeds, etc. It applies to something MUCH bigger. It applies to the re-connection Christ made possible to God, the connection that was broken in the garden.
Thank you for sharing this. Most likely all four were wrong. Can we agree there is only one correct view? I can tell you that when Daniel was discussing "the time of the end" he was speaking about the end of his nation, Israel, which history tells us happened in 70 AD. This was the desolation he discussed at the end of Chapter 9. The "time of distress" in Dan 12:1 was the siege of Jerusalem by Titus in early 70 AD. 93% of the Jewish population from all over the world were trapped inside the city. Most starved to death and many were killed by fellow Jews.
Jesus refers exactly to this in Luke 19:
"The days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment against you and encircle you and hem you in on every side. [SUP]44 [/SUP]They will dash you to the ground, you and the children within your walls. They will not leave one stone on another, because you did not recognize the time of God’s coming to you.”
That was the Great Tribulation. That was the "end of the age or ages" as it was the end of Israel. Most of the Bible chronicles the history of Israel thus it concludes with the end of Israel. We are in the new age now spoken of by Paul and the writers of Hebrews. We Christians all make up the spiritual temple, which is the only temple Christ reigns in.
What does Paul say in 1 Cor 10:11?
Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.
They were living in those last days as Peter affirms in Act 2-3. They were the last days of Israel, NOT the end of the cosmos, as you wrongly believe. It was also the end of the Law, the Mosaic Age. The new age, the age to come, is the Messianic Age. This is our age. Some call it the "millennium" although they don't realize we are living in it now. We have the indwelling of the Lord, we are new creations - RIGHT NOW. We don't face death in that we don't go to Hades (Shoel) anymore. We go straight to heaven.
Don't you realize that "all things have been made new?" This does not apply to insects, weeds, etc. It applies to something MUCH bigger. It applies to the re-connection Christ made possible to God, the connection that was broken in the garden.
A-F,
I love everything except the "second coming" thingy. That too was in the past. I am not a full preterist simply because there are passages dealing with the "new age" AKA, "the age to come" that my fellow preterists ignore.
You need to study what it looks like when the fully glorified God (including the Son) presence returns to earth. What would you expect to see? Could mortal men actually gaze upon God (and/or Son) without dying or at least going blind as Paul did?
Father (and/or Son) when their presence comes close is covered by the "glory cloud" to hide their brightness. This is seen as really dark darkness. It would be so dark you would think the sun, moon and stars failed to give their light. Did this happen in 70 AD? You bet it did!!
I love everything except the "second coming" thingy. That too was in the past. I am not a full preterist simply because there are passages dealing with the "new age" AKA, "the age to come" that my fellow preterists ignore.
You need to study what it looks like when the fully glorified God (including the Son) presence returns to earth. What would you expect to see? Could mortal men actually gaze upon God (and/or Son) without dying or at least going blind as Paul did?
Father (and/or Son) when their presence comes close is covered by the "glory cloud" to hide their brightness. This is seen as really dark darkness. It would be so dark you would think the sun, moon and stars failed to give their light. Did this happen in 70 AD? You bet it did!!
Brother PW,
Jesus came many times after the resurrection. Including the 70 dest of Jerusalem coming. But it was not a resurrection coming.
1 Cor 15:23-28, 23-24, Says that after the resurrection of those who are His, it is the end where death is destroyed.
The events surrounding 70 ad have no records or witnesses that even begin to point to a resurrection.
Jesus said that there would be a times of the gentiles Lk 21:20-24, 24. How long that period was no one knew. They probably expected that it would be a short time.
Yes, but as you accept their explanation for everything, it seems that you are.
Yes, that is the point I was making with Br. Endoscopy.
Yes, the coming in His glory for the kingdom resurrection has yet to happen. It didn't happen in the 70 ad time frame.
The symbolism of the sun and the moon are the Law and the Prophets. The stars are Israel. These are symbolic and not literal in that passage.
Brother PW,
The rapt/resur will happen exactly as it says when the 7th trumpet blows.
The 2 W's and 7th trumpet show Jerusalem falling, but is not the 70 ad falling, it is the fall that is about to come.
That is the difference between the two. The 70 ad fall had no resurrection and no Jesus coming for the kingdom.
The Jerusalem that is shown at the end of the 2 W's, is the one restored to Israel after the wanderings of the 2 W's during the ToG's. (The second 3 1/2 times 70 ad-1967)
The little scroll.
1-7 Seals, From the rejection of the gospel kingdom by Israel in 37 ad, until the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 ad.
1-4 Trumpets, The times of the gentiles, 70 ad until 1967. The times of the gentiles end when Israel is restored to complete military control over Jerusalem Lk 21:20-24, 24. This also ends the time of the toes Dan. 2, and the horns of Dan. 7 and Rev 17.
5th Trumpet, Rome comes out of the abyss to deceive the nations into attacking Israel. 1929 Rome becomes a nation again in the exact same spot, Caesar and all. The trumpet is the beginning of the things to happen, followed by the events associated with it.
6th trumpet, 9/11/01, The trumpet sounds that leads up to the drying of the waters (people/power) of the Euphrates region (Iraq/Bush). This allows the kings of the east (Iran), to attack Jerusalem that is restored to Israel, at this present time.
The events of the 2 W's show that restored Jerusalem falls. 3 1/2 days later, the 7th trumpet, the resur/rapt, and Jesus comes for the kingdom. Then it is the last judgment and death is destroyed.
The seals/trumpets tell the same story as the 2W's, but from different perspectives.
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You see, we are on the edge of eternity.
I think that it is strange, that people do not realize where we are in the time line. Always thinking that everything is to come, when it is already past.
I mean, we all believe that miracles take place, Jesus made people whole and walked on the water. We believe that the events in Exodus took place and that prophecies come true.
Are we like the people, who saw the blind man healed, but refused to acknowledge the prophetic miracle?
People who said that it can't be true, even though there were many confirmations?
The events described in the Rev are already at the end of this world, at the end of the mill, not waiting for it to begin.
The winds of destruction are already blowing across the Euphrates toward Jerusalem restored to Israel.
The kings of the east, Iran, are already crossing the Euphrates headed for Jerusalem. This is their goal. They have made it well known that they are out to take Jerusalem and Destroy the people of Israel from the earth.
They will conquer Jerusalem. 3 1/2 days later, Jesus comes for the kingdom and this planet is destroyed in fire by the stone.
The rapt/resur will happen exactly as it says when the 7th trumpet blows.
The 2 W's and 7th trumpet show Jerusalem falling, but is not the 70 ad falling, it is the fall that is about to come.
That is the difference between the two. The 70 ad fall had no resurrection and no Jesus coming for the kingdom.
The Jerusalem that is shown at the end of the 2 W's, is the one restored to Israel after the wanderings of the 2 W's during the ToG's. (The second 3 1/2 times 70 ad-1967)
The little scroll.
1-7 Seals, From the rejection of the gospel kingdom by Israel in 37 ad, until the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 ad.
1-4 Trumpets, The times of the gentiles, 70 ad until 1967. The times of the gentiles end when Israel is restored to complete military control over Jerusalem Lk 21:20-24, 24. This also ends the time of the toes Dan. 2, and the horns of Dan. 7 and Rev 17.
5th Trumpet, Rome comes out of the abyss to deceive the nations into attacking Israel. 1929 Rome becomes a nation again in the exact same spot, Caesar and all. The trumpet is the beginning of the things to happen, followed by the events associated with it.
6th trumpet, 9/11/01, The trumpet sounds that leads up to the drying of the waters (people/power) of the Euphrates region (Iraq/Bush). This allows the kings of the east (Iran), to attack Jerusalem that is restored to Israel, at this present time.
The events of the 2 W's show that restored Jerusalem falls. 3 1/2 days later, the 7th trumpet, the resur/rapt, and Jesus comes for the kingdom. Then it is the last judgment and death is destroyed.
The seals/trumpets tell the same story as the 2W's, but from different perspectives.
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You see, we are on the edge of eternity.
I think that it is strange, that people do not realize where we are in the time line. Always thinking that everything is to come, when it is already past.
I mean, we all believe that miracles take place, Jesus made people whole and walked on the water. We believe that the events in Exodus took place and that prophecies come true.
Are we like the people, who saw the blind man healed, but refused to acknowledge the prophetic miracle?
People who said that it can't be true, even though there were many confirmations?
The events described in the Rev are already at the end of this world, at the end of the mill, not waiting for it to begin.
The winds of destruction are already blowing across the Euphrates toward Jerusalem restored to Israel.
The kings of the east, Iran, are already crossing the Euphrates headed for Jerusalem. This is their goal. They have made it well known that they are out to take Jerusalem and Destroy the people of Israel from the earth.
They will conquer Jerusalem. 3 1/2 days later, Jesus comes for the kingdom and this planet is destroyed in fire by the stone.
Anytime someone quotes single verses I always check context with biblegateway.com. You didn't even quote the full verse. Here it is in context. You in order to promote your view ignore scripture beyond what you quoted. The rest of the verse has the rapture happening at that time. If that happened in 70AD there would have been a lot of literature about all of the people disappearing! Several instances are stated about two people doing a job and one disappears.
[h=1]Daniel 12 New International Version (NIV)[/h][h=3]The End Times[/h][FONT="]12 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered.2 Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt. 3 Those who are wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars for ever and ever. 4 But you, Daniel, roll up and seal the words of the scroll until the time of the end. Many will go here and there to increase knowledge.”
Here is another section about this spoken by Jesus. I highlighted some verses you need to explain why there is no evidence of this happening.
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Matthew 24
15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. 18 Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. 19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.
22 “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.
26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.
29 “Immediately after the distress of those days
“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’
30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.
Then Isaiah states where Jesus will rule!! Oops it is in Jerusalem.
Isaiah 24 AMPC
21 And in that day the Lord will visit and punish the host of the high ones on high [the host of heaven in heaven, celestial beings] and the kings of the earth on the earth.
22 And they will be gathered together as prisoners are gathered in a pit or dungeon; they will be shut up in prison, and after many days they will be visited, inspected, and punished or pardoned.
23 Then the moon will be confounded and the sun ashamed, when [they compare their ineffectual fire to the light of] the Lord of hosts, Who will reign on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem, and before His elders will show forth His glory.
[h=1]Daniel 12 New International Version (NIV)[/h][h=3]The End Times[/h][FONT="]12 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered.2 Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt. 3 Those who are wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars for ever and ever. 4 But you, Daniel, roll up and seal the words of the scroll until the time of the end. Many will go here and there to increase knowledge.”
Here is another section about this spoken by Jesus. I highlighted some verses you need to explain why there is no evidence of this happening.
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Matthew 24
15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. 18 Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. 19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.
22 “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.
26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.
29 “Immediately after the distress of those days
“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’
30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.
Then Isaiah states where Jesus will rule!! Oops it is in Jerusalem.
Isaiah 24 AMPC
21 And in that day the Lord will visit and punish the host of the high ones on high [the host of heaven in heaven, celestial beings] and the kings of the earth on the earth.
22 And they will be gathered together as prisoners are gathered in a pit or dungeon; they will be shut up in prison, and after many days they will be visited, inspected, and punished or pardoned.
23 Then the moon will be confounded and the sun ashamed, when [they compare their ineffectual fire to the light of] the Lord of hosts, Who will reign on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem, and before His elders will show forth His glory.
