Transgendered People

[Demi777]

*shrugs
Just sayin lol

 

[Depleted]

As far as I can tell the point of them having surgery is to be happier in their own skin. If this will keep ANYONE from killing themselves it should be allowed after enough psycho-therapy to make sure that is what is warranted.

The very problem. "As far as I can tell." You can tell, not God can tell, not research can tell. God covered this long ago. The research is coming in. If you're homosexual, your life expectancy drops by 10 years, suicide rates increase drastically, and viral infections cause great harm. Here's the thing though, it's better to be a homosexual than go for that surgery. The research is in. Suicide rate increases even more with that surgery, and yet you're so busy proving yourself, you won't even bother checking out reality!

You're basing everything on "as far as I can tell." Not God. Not knowledge. Your feeling minus understanding. That is the problem!

Happy? It's hell on earth for them! Yet, you are pleased for that?

 

[Depleted]

They may FEEL happier as the opposite gender, but the fact remains, they CANNOT TRULY change their gender. If they were born female, they will die female. If they were born male, they will die male. IMO, more transgenders get murdered for changing their gender, than they do from suicide. I speak from personal experience on that one.

They DON'T feel happier! They feel even worse! And considering how horrible they felt in the first place, (enough to want to mutilate their bodies), that is NOT good!!!

I cannot believe everyone is talking about happiness over people who were truly miserable, and chose, not knowing all the facts, to get even more miserable than they were. How sad is this?

 

[Demi777]

Its not like u feel Good after any surgery. Its not easily reversible, brings risks, painful process. Hormones have heavy side effects (varying from cancer through thrombosis).
That surgery isnt a piercing u can take out. It stays with u and causes major damages throughout the whole body. Some take ribs out to have a more womanly figure...ever hurt a rib? It is hell and may just staay for a veeery long time etc.

So i really cant see happines coming from that

 

[Alertandawake]

If they wanted to keep the same genitalia and dress like the other gender it would be no more wrong than wearing linen and cotton together.

A correction to this, it is not linen and cotton, the correct reference is actually wool and linen, and there is a reason for that. Through research, the reason why, it is something to do with frequencies, but when these 2 materials are mixed together, they cancel each other out.

Now back to the main issue.

I will explain this as simple and as direct as best I can.

For example, a man who dresses up as a woman, is still a man. Period. A man who has surgery because he identifies as being a woman is still a man. If a salt shaker has a pepper label on it, it is still salt, not pepper.

Now there has and always has been 2 genders, male and female, man and woman. That is it. Now provided the internal organs of both genders work properly, man+woman get married, and they have children and a new generation is created. This is how mankind is designed.

Man+Man cannot give birth to children.
Woman+woman cannot give birth to children.
A man who has surgery to become a woman, and pairs up with a man, it is still a man+man relationship.

The man implants the seed of life into the woman, and the woman then becomes the carrier. This is the design blueprint of mankind (and the many other species on this planet as well for that matter).

 

[EarnestQ]

Still don't think you were homosexual. Abused, definitely, but not homosexual.

The following words are going to sound dated, possibly even silly, but they were the words I thought when I was in my early 20s (back in the 70s), so I am dated anyway.

I was raised Catholic, so have the Ten Commandments (Catholic style) memorized like most people memorize the alphabet. And, at that time, the only one I was sure I never did was #6. (Again, Catholic style, so that's the "adultery" commandment.) And then I was raped. To me, I broke the 6th commandment. I was a floozie, a tramp, a whore. I honestly considered myself all those things.

But, years later, someone finally got me straight. I did not commit adultery. I was raped. I did not instantly become a floozie, a tramp or a whore. I was raped. I was used for someone else's pleasure (and anger, and loathing of self and everyone else around them), and then discarded like a dirty tissue. That is not sex. That is not love. That is not choice.

I think you got the same raw deal but from people of your own gender. It may have turned you on your ear to think you were homosexual, but I don't think you were. That choice was taken from you.

So, I'm not a floozie and you're not a homosexual. Deal?

Oh, how I wish you, or any women, never had to go through such an evil experience.

 

[Mobiosity]

The very problem. "As far as I can tell." You can tell, not God can tell, not research can tell. God covered this long ago. The research is coming in. If you're homosexual, your life expectancy drops by 10 years, suicide rates increase drastically, and viral infections cause great harm. Here's the thing though, it's better to be a homosexual than go for that surgery. The research is in. Suicide rate increases even more with that surgery, and yet you're so busy proving yourself, you won't even bother checking out reality!

You're basing everything on "as far as I can tell." Not God. Not knowledge. Your feeling minus understanding. That is the problem!

Happy? It's hell on earth for them! Yet, you are pleased for that?

Don't assign intent.

 

[Depleted]

Don't assign intent.

More "I know?" And based on what? Because you said so?

Kind of funny, since you just assigned intent. Definitely guided by self, not God.

 

[Jimbone]

The main problem I see with this surgery is that it's not a solution to anything. This will never give anyone what they are missing. The connection with God you were designed to have is the only thing that will make anyone truly whole. Focusing on all the symptoms will never, ever, ever, fix anything ever. There is only 1 way to find true peace, true joy, true love, and that is through reconciliation with God through Jesus alone. That is the ONLY way to fix ANYONES problems, changing identity, or even getting the nose done will not fix anything spiritually. Too much focus on what "I want and feel", and not enough on the problem right inside you.

 

[Mobiosity]

More "I know?" And based on what? Because you said so?

Kind of funny, since you just assigned intent. Definitely guided by self, not God.

I pray that you're healed of the anger that is driving you.

 

[Depleted]

I pray that you're healed of the anger that is driving you.

I'm praying the Lord saves you.

 

[blue_ladybug]

The ones I know personally, say that they're much happier living as the opposite sex. But since we aren't them, we can't truly say or know, whether they're truly happy with the change or not.. I only know that I never have, and never will, understand the mindset of the so-called alphabet people..

They DON'T feel happier! They feel even worse! And considering how horrible they felt in the first place, (enough to want to mutilate their bodies), that is NOT good!!!

I cannot believe everyone is talking about happiness over people who were truly miserable, and chose, not knowing all the facts, to get even more miserable than they were. How sad is this?

 

[Alertandawake]

Speaking of the alphabet, I have come across recently that apparently now, there is something like 70+ genders that one can choose from. How does one come up with 70+ genders, when there are only 2 genders - male + female. There maybe more now who knows.

This is getting really bad. Gender confusion has come to the point that a person not only can choose what gender they associate with, but they at the same time don't know what they associate with? So if that is the case, shall a new gender option be added just to make said person happy? Seriously, enough is enough with this madness.

Now this is going to be blunt and direct, but in my opinion, a transgender that does not get his/her way, but expects everyone to support and celebrate a type of surgical procedure that will ruin said person is like a child throwing a tantrum when he/she doesn't get their way. And on top of that, if these rights activists (regardless whether it is same-sex, transgender and so on) think that those who are strong in moral foundations and principles, based on "scripture", bend over and support their cause, then they are in for a big disappointment.

It has always been male+female. That is it. So why cannot many people understand this biological fact is beyond me.

As mentioned before, the design process of mankind involves man and woman. Two genders. This is how we were created, by The Creator. Male and Female, that is it. Black and White, no shades of grey, period.

 

[Ahwatukee]

Speaking of the alphabet, I have come across recently that apparently now, there is something like 70+ genders that one can choose from. How does one come up with 70+ genders, when there are only 2 genders - male + female. There maybe more now who knows.

This is getting really bad. Gender confusion has come to the point that a person not only can choose what gender they associate with, but they at the same time don't know what they associate with? So if that is the case, shall a new gender option be added just to make said person happy? Seriously, enough is enough with this madness.

Now this is going to be blunt and direct, but in my opinion, a transgender that does not get his/her way, but expects everyone to support and celebrate a type of surgical procedure that will ruin said person is like a child throwing a tantrum when he/she doesn't get their way. And on top of that, if these rights activists (regardless whether it is same-sex, transgender and so on) think that those who are strong in moral foundations and principles, based on "scripture", bend over and support their cause, then they are in for a big disappointment.

It has always been male+female. That is it. So why cannot many people understand this biological fact is beyond me.

As mentioned before, the design process of mankind involves man and woman. Two genders. This is how we were created, by The Creator. Male and Female, that is it. Black and White, no shades of grey, period.

Amen, Alertandawake!

"In the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female’and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh? So they are no longer two, but one flesh."

Regardless of what the world believes, there are only 2 Genders, male and female. Those attempting to legalize same-sex marriage have been in the process of removing the use of words such as husband and wife. They want to do away with the masculine, feminine, principle.

I was amazed to read an article last year, where two men who were making their wedding plans, had decided to abstain from sexual intimacy until after they were married. It demonstrates how far away the wicked's heart is from knowing the truth, as though they were honoring God by abstaining! Wait or no wait, it is detestable to God regardless.

 

[Alertandawake]

I was amazed to read an article last year, where two men who were making their wedding plans, had decided to abstain from sexual intimacy until after they were married. It demonstrates how far away the wicked's heart is from knowing the truth, as though they were honoring God by abstaining! Wait or no wait, it is detestable to God regardless.

Oh wow, this is the icing on the cake.

The priests who have eventually decided (because of financial interests) to go and support and perform these weddings, those priests to put it simply are collaborators, or to put another way, a sell-out.

 

[EarnestQ]

Honestly, is anything we say here going to change anyone's mind about changing their sex?

Those who are so confused, or deceived, as to spend all that money, and go through such pain, on something so irrelevant to who they really are, are going to listen to people other than us no matter how right we presume ourselves to be. (Even when we "prove" it from Scripture.)

I expect our only real option is to decide whether or not we treat people we disagree with (whether in this or any other subject) with dignity and respect as people whom Christ loves and is willing to die for if they accept His death, burial and resurrection for their lives and souls.

I wish life were easier (in some ways), like it was in the "olden" days, and we simply didn't have to deal with such debate and confusion. But this is the way it is now and IMO all we can do is deal with the way life is and not the we we wish or think it should be.

Sometimes, IMHO, all we can do is to "Put our trust in our faithful Creator and continue to do good".

 

[Depleted]

The ones I know personally, say that they're much happier living as the opposite sex. But since we aren't them, we can't truly say or know, whether they're truly happy with the change or not.. I only know that I never have, and never will, understand the mindset of the so-called alphabet people..

I can't imagine talking to you about it that too long, since you tend to find it totally disgusting.

 

[Depleted]

Honestly, is anything we say here going to change anyone's mind about changing their sex?

Those who are so confused, or deceived, as to spend all that money, and go through such pain, on something so irrelevant to who they really are, are going to listen to people other than us no matter how right we presume ourselves to be. (Even when we "prove" it from Scripture.)

I expect our only real option is to decide whether or not we treat people we disagree with (whether in this or any other subject) with dignity and respect as people whom Christ loves and is willing to die for if they accept His death, burial and resurrection for their lives and souls.

I wish life were easier (in some ways), like it was in the "olden" days, and we simply didn't have to deal with such debate and confusion. But this is the way it is now and IMO all we can do is deal with the way life is and not the we we wish or think it should be.

Sometimes, IMHO, all we can do is to "Put our trust in our faithful Creator and continue to do good".

I think this helped in the long haul, because at least people (who were listening) got the message that these people are hurting terribly. They could use a friend. Someone not out to convince them to step out in someone else's agenda, but someone who will be real with them. Who better than a believer?

These people are hurting, and the gospel is the answer. The Lord is the answer!

 

[Didymous]

I would be more concerned with whether or not God has a problem with it.

 

[Adstar]

Honestly, is anything we say here going to change anyone's mind about changing their sex?

Those who are so confused, or deceived, as to spend all that money, and go through such pain, on something so irrelevant to who they really are, are going to listen to people other than us no matter how right we presume ourselves to be. (Even when we "prove" it from Scripture.)

Some will listen to the Word of God... In the end thats who we are here for.. To give to those who are willing to recieve it the Word of God.. Where not here for the 10,000 who are going to throw the word of God back into our faces with venemous hate, we are here for that 1 or 2 people who the Holy Spirit will convict and move to come to salvation..

I expect our only real option is to decide whether or not we treat people we disagree with (whether in this or any other subject) with dignity and respect as people whom Christ loves and is willing to die for if they accept His death, burial and resurrection for their lives and souls.

We can do that without compromising the truth.. You can give the hard truth and care for the person you are giving it to at the same time..

I wish life were easier (in some ways), like it was in the "olden" days, and we simply didn't have to deal with such debate and confusion. But this is the way it is now and IMO all we can do is deal with the way life is and not the we we wish or think it should be.

Sometimes, IMHO, all we can do is to "Put our trust in our faithful Creator and continue to do good".

There has always been challenges for each generation, different controversies at different times.. Until Jesus returns and sets things right we can expect nothing really new under the sun..