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TruthTalk said:
Hi VCO, behur would not tell me what Church he was associated with; my first thought was okay, the Mormon Church.
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Did you say to yourself, OK, the Mormon Chruch before you read VCO or after?
 
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benhur said:
Did you say to yourself, OK, the Mormon Chruch before you read VCO or after?
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Personally why would you care. I have only heard judgmental words from you since you first started posting. You should have entered the "front gate" and at least attempted to make a few friends here, better for you at least.

You cannot peddle a false gospel on Christianchat.com.
 
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benhur

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TruthTalk said:
Personally why would you care. I have only heard judgmental words from you since you first started posting. You should have entered the "front gate" and at least attempted to make a few friends here, better for you at least.

You cannot peddle a false gospel on Christianchat.com.
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Just understand, I entered the "front gate". I do not peddle false gospel on our Christianchat.com.

Like I said, everything I believe comes directly from the bible. If I am peddling a false gospel, then the bible is false.

Now, I agree that my theology does not exactly agree with yours, but thats just a Christian thing, lots of theologies out there these days.
 
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benhur said:
What I will tell you is that your theology contradicts what Jesus said. Does that not bother you?
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No, because it is your theology, that has mis-interpreted the vast majority of Scriptures pertaining to SALVATION, as well as some other important Topics. Jesus Christ did not contradict Himself or the Father. But apparently you think He did.


Do you believe there is only ONE GOD, (the FATHER and the SON and the HOLY SPIRIT), those personages are BUT ONE GOD?

Do you believe there are NO OTHER GODS AT ALL? Any OTHER ARE gods ARE COUNTERFEIT from some human beings imagination.
 
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benhur said:
Just understand, I entered the "front gate". I do not peddle false gospel on our Christianchat.com.

Like I said, everything I believe comes directly from the bible. If I am peddling a false gospel, then the bible is false.

Now, I agree that my theology does not exactly agree with yours, but thats just a Christian thing, lots of theologies out there these days.
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What do YOU believe the gospel IS and what do YOU believe it means to BELIEVE the gospel? (Romans 1:16)
 
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VCO said:
No, because it is your theology, that has mis-interpreted the vast majority of Scriptures pertaining to SALVATION, as well as some other important Topics. Jesus Christ did not contradict Himself or the Father. But apparently you think He did.


Do you believe there is only ONE GOD, (the FATHER and the SON and the HOLY SPIRIT), those personages are BUT ONE GOD?

Do you believe there are NO OTHER GODS AT ALL? Any OTHER ARE gods ARE COUNTERFEIT from some human beings imagination.
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Staying on topic, VCO, do you believe that a person must forgive all men their trespasses against them, in order for God to forgive their trespasses against Him?
 
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benhur said:
Staying on topic, VCO, do you believe that a person must forgive all men their trespasses against them, in order for God to forgive their trespasses against Him?
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ANSWER MY QUESTIONS!
 
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mailmandan said:
What do YOU believe the gospel IS and what do YOU believe it means to BELIEVE the gospel? (Romans 1:16)
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The gospel is the good news that Jesus died for us and because of that we may have eternal life, if we believe in his sacrifice and do the things he taught us to do in the bible.

What do you believe the gospel IS?
 
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benhur said:
The gospel is the good news that Jesus died for us and because of that we may have eternal life, if we believe in his sacrifice and do the things he taught us to do in the bible.

What do you believe the gospel IS?
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hmmm no accepting Jesus or his works,why might that be?
 
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benhur said:
Are you shouting at me in a demanding voice? I am not your church lackey that you can yell at when they disobey your highness.
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Maybe he's shouting in Jubilation?:cool:(I bug everyone no favorism here)
 
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benhur said:
The gospel is the good news that Jesus died for us and because of that we may have eternal life, if we believe in his sacrifice and do the things he taught us to do in the bible.

What do you believe the gospel IS?
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The gospel is the “good news” of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16). To believe the gospel is to trust in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation.
 
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benhur

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joefizz said:
hmmm no accepting Jesus or his works,why might that be?
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What do you think "if we believe in his sacrifice" means. Well, I will then put it in your words, if you accept Jesus as your Savior and his works. There, is that better?

Now tell me what you believe the good news IS?
 
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mailmandan said:
The gospel is the “good news” of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16). To believe the gospel is to trust in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation.
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Well said.
 
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VCO said:
ANSWER MY QUESTIONS!
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You answer my on topic question. Here it is again: Do you believe that you must forgive all men their trespasses against you, in order for God to forgive your trespasses against Him?

It is on topic because if you are not forgiven of your sins by God you will not have eternal life. So let me know?
 
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Well I think we have our answer.

So I am putting benhur on my permanent IGNORE LIST.
 
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mailmandan said:
The gospel is the “good news” of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16). To believe the gospel is to trust in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation.
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But Ben doesnt believe this is enough , as he says his works are required , so sad really !
 
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ljs said:
But Ben doesnt believe this is enough , as he says his works are required , so sad really !
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Works are the fruit of salvation, but never the root of it. Christ’s finished work of redemption is sufficient and complete to save believers. No supplements needed.
 
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