Does God Sever Fellowship With Us When We Sin?
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I always thought of a white lie as not exactly telling exactly what you think. For instance, it's mothers day and we are doing a big feast for mom - ribs on the grill, shrimp, corn on the cob, slaw, beans, etc., etc.
She was getting cranked up in her bedroom trying on outfit after outfit. She felt like she looked fat in every one of them. She has gained a fair amount of weight over about three months. She wanted something where it wouldn't be noticeable. I said I liked best what she had on two outfits ago. I said it hid all her weight gain and was very slimming. It doesn't hide all her weight gain. It hid her weight gain best of all the outfits but it didn't hide it all. So to me, that's a white lie. You aren't brutally truthful and your intent is to make someone relax and not feel bad.
I don't feel the Spirit nagging at my mind that I did a deceitful and bad thing. I feel I made someone feel better. I'll let Him be the judge of if I committed an atrocity.
My own mind and heart are not condemning me or telling me to "make things right."
She was getting cranked up in her bedroom trying on outfit after outfit. She felt like she looked fat in every one of them. She has gained a fair amount of weight over about three months. She wanted something where it wouldn't be noticeable. I said I liked best what she had on two outfits ago. I said it hid all her weight gain and was very slimming. It doesn't hide all her weight gain. It hid her weight gain best of all the outfits but it didn't hide it all. So to me, that's a white lie. You aren't brutally truthful and your intent is to make someone relax and not feel bad.
I don't feel the Spirit nagging at my mind that I did a deceitful and bad thing. I feel I made someone feel better. I'll let Him be the judge of if I committed an atrocity.
My own mind and heart are not condemning me or telling me to "make things right."
You mean provide scriptural evidence that there are two natures and not just one? Try Romans 7-8 where Paul talks about the two "I"s (egos). He teaches that victory over sin is achieved by not obeying our unrighteous nature through the spirit. The gnostics taught that victory was achieved by altogether ignoring the unrighteous nature.
I don't think so either.
Jesus said about those careful to tithe of every speck of their dill and cumin that they should have done so but not ignored the weightier matters. I got that He would have preferred the opposite.
And He said to Pilate: therefore he who turned me over to you bears the greater sin.
So I agree not all sins are of equal weight in Gods' sight. It can get tricky if WE judge between our sin and the sin of another man, because we are very prone to tip the scale in our favor every time. And God detests unequal scales (weights).
Jesus said about those careful to tithe of every speck of their dill and cumin that they should have done so but not ignored the weightier matters. I got that He would have preferred the opposite.
And He said to Pilate: therefore he who turned me over to you bears the greater sin.
So I agree not all sins are of equal weight in Gods' sight. It can get tricky if WE judge between our sin and the sin of another man, because we are very prone to tip the scale in our favor every time. And God detests unequal scales (weights).
J
I always thought of a white lie as not exactly telling exactly what you think. For instance, it's mothers day and we are doing a big feast for mom - ribs on the grill, shrimp, corn on the cob, slaw, beans, etc., etc.
She was getting cranked up in her bedroom trying on outfit after outfit. She felt like she looked fat in every one of them. She has gained a fair amount of weight over about three months. She wanted something where it wouldn't be noticeable. I said I liked best what she had on two outfits ago. I said it hid all her weight gain and was very slimming. It doesn't hide all her weight gain. It hid her weight gain best of all the outfits but it didn't hide it all. So to me, that's a white lie. You aren't brutally truthful and your intent is to make someone relax and not feel bad.
I don't feel the Spirit nagging at my mind that I did a deceitful and bad thing. I feel I made someone feel better. I'll let Him be the judge of if I committed an atrocity.My own mind and heart are not condemning me or telling me to "make things right."
She was getting cranked up in her bedroom trying on outfit after outfit. She felt like she looked fat in every one of them. She has gained a fair amount of weight over about three months. She wanted something where it wouldn't be noticeable. I said I liked best what she had on two outfits ago. I said it hid all her weight gain and was very slimming. It doesn't hide all her weight gain. It hid her weight gain best of all the outfits but it didn't hide it all. So to me, that's a white lie. You aren't brutally truthful and your intent is to make someone relax and not feel bad.
I don't feel the Spirit nagging at my mind that I did a deceitful and bad thing. I feel I made someone feel better. I'll let Him be the judge of if I committed an atrocity.
My own mind and heart are not condemning me or telling me to "make things right."
I think I understand the way you are seeing it HRFTD. And I think I understand how others are looking at it too. I don't see any horrid hereticalness anywhere. I need to come back and read at leisure when I'm not so rushed and see where the wreck happened. Good thread and topic budman. Not good what's happening but we can work it out, I'm sure of it. Got aa pot boiling over on stove gotta go be back tonight. Bear with and love one another. Even when someone rankles you or raises your fur a little with a remark.
I think you're getting into that same spirit you were in when you falsely accused me of something. Remember?
But back to the issue. We have imputed righteousness, but not actual righteousness. Our spirit is righteous, but we, of ourselves, are not righteous because our body/soul is tainted with unrighteousness. We are clothed with Christ's righteousness through faith.
But back to the issue. We have imputed righteousness, but not actual righteousness. Our spirit is righteous, but we, of ourselves, are not righteous because our body/soul is tainted with unrighteousness. We are clothed with Christ's righteousness through faith.
you have a spirit in you from God, it has a nature, its nature is righteous... that is actual righteousness. you have not purposed anything to discredit that spiritually.
not getting upset with you like then getting confused because you are saying one thing, then saying another. then you are calling others out for what you yourself are doing.
if it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, looks like a duck, its a duck.
i'm just calling what i see, and i see a duck.
not getting upset with you like then getting confused because you are saying one thing, then saying another. then you are calling others out for what you yourself are doing.
if it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, looks like a duck, its a duck.
i'm just calling what i see, and i see a duck.