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Amen brother..the truth is the truth......the only ones who cannot receive it are the religionists that believe in their ind that works help secure that which is already eternally given by faith <---the plenteous in number that say, "LORD, LORD, have we not blah blah blah........"
Bad day coming for them
Bad day coming for them
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Thats why many call it religion, It sounds good. But it only sounds good to prideful itchy ears. Like you said, To God it is filthy rags, it mocks the cross. It is like going to someone who paid your way to someplace because you could not offord it, And you shoving the ticket back in his face and say thanks, But i got this.
They take Jesus, and his work, and basically say thanks Jesus, But I got this..
They take Jesus, and his work, and basically say thanks Jesus, But I got this..
You give a scripture about how Jesus identifies false prophets. He identifies them by what fruit they produce. False prophets bear bad fruit. Good prophets bear good fruit. So you identify a false prophet by their fruits.
So what is fruits. It is the whole compilation of their ministry. Do they speak with authority as a true prohet would. Do their words elevate you (here is where a false prophet can be difficult to identify because they are great orators and can lift a crowd to great heights of wonderment). Do they do the works of God. Do they look out for the poor, and the needy, and the naked, and the oppressed? Are they on the front lines against heresy and false doctrine. There are lots of signs that are available that Jesus refers to as 'fruit'.
And so Jesus tells us to look for the whole compilation of their ministry and the kinds of fruits it is producing as the way to identify false prophets.
Your way to identify false prophets is all about their 'words'. That is only 1 of many ways. But their words is the least way to identify them because they are gifted with wonderful oratory and the preaching of God. Do their words do this to you or that to you. And you miss the whole point Jesus was making.
Look at the fruit they bear = their works, their actions, and their words.
So what is fruits. It is the whole compilation of their ministry. Do they speak with authority as a true prohet would. Do their words elevate you (here is where a false prophet can be difficult to identify because they are great orators and can lift a crowd to great heights of wonderment). Do they do the works of God. Do they look out for the poor, and the needy, and the naked, and the oppressed? Are they on the front lines against heresy and false doctrine. There are lots of signs that are available that Jesus refers to as 'fruit'.
And so Jesus tells us to look for the whole compilation of their ministry and the kinds of fruits it is producing as the way to identify false prophets.
Your way to identify false prophets is all about their 'words'. That is only 1 of many ways. But their words is the least way to identify them because they are gifted with wonderful oratory and the preaching of God. Do their words do this to you or that to you. And you miss the whole point Jesus was making.
Look at the fruit they bear = their works, their actions, and their words.
Wow, is this refreshing. A Christian who believes they actually want to keep the commandments that Jesus taught us to do.
The NT is the guideline to eternal life and the words of the Savior are important, and we should want to follow them.
It is also important to keep our eye on the cross and always trust in Jesus and his atoning sacrifice. If he does not sacrifice himself and fulfill the law of Moses there would be no eternal life. So we must confess that this is the center of the gospel. We must have faith that the grace of Jesus will cover our filthiness and reconcile us to God. Because of our faith, and our love of God, we will be of a new nature and our good works will be the sign of this new person in Jesus. The combination of believing in Jesus, and our trust in his word, and our faith and good works all work together as we endure to the end and separate ourselves from the world that will help us stay on the path to eternal life.
So thank you again Jim.
The NT is the guideline to eternal life and the words of the Savior are important, and we should want to follow them.
It is also important to keep our eye on the cross and always trust in Jesus and his atoning sacrifice. If he does not sacrifice himself and fulfill the law of Moses there would be no eternal life. So we must confess that this is the center of the gospel. We must have faith that the grace of Jesus will cover our filthiness and reconcile us to God. Because of our faith, and our love of God, we will be of a new nature and our good works will be the sign of this new person in Jesus. The combination of believing in Jesus, and our trust in his word, and our faith and good works all work together as we endure to the end and separate ourselves from the world that will help us stay on the path to eternal life.
So thank you again Jim.
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how refreshing
another brother in Christ who wants to keep the commands of God out of love
because of the new heart and quickened spirit God has placed in him
not seeking to establish his own righteousness or earn the gift of grace
but trying to walk in a way that represents the body he has already become a part of
while still admitting his own weakness in failure but giving God the glory for any victory
another brother in Christ who wants to keep the commands of God out of love
because of the new heart and quickened spirit God has placed in him
not seeking to establish his own righteousness or earn the gift of grace
but trying to walk in a way that represents the body he has already become a part of
while still admitting his own weakness in failure but giving God the glory for any victory
On judgement day, I will say that I was born of the water = water baptized, just like Jesus and I was born of the spirit = baptized of the spirit, just like Jesus. Where is the baspheming? Accept I am blaspheming your theology, but certainly not the HS. Don't throw around blaspheming lightly. At least 1/2 of Christianity is according to you blaspheming the HS. I don't think so.
Whatever you believe. Just what happened to Jesus when he decided to be baptized. First he was born again = water baptized by full immersion, by another human man. Then when he came up out of the water, he was born again of the Spirit = baptized of the Spirit. The HS came from above and settled upon him.
This is the same order that Peter taught in Acts 2. Remember: Repent, and be baptized for the remission of sins, and then receive the gift of the HS.
Do you see how the bible confirms that water baptism by full immersion is what Jesus meant when he said you must be born of the water. It all fits nicely.
This is the same order that Peter taught in Acts 2. Remember: Repent, and be baptized for the remission of sins, and then receive the gift of the HS.
Do you see how the bible confirms that water baptism by full immersion is what Jesus meant when he said you must be born of the water. It all fits nicely.
Not hardly. I am a non-denominational Believer, who attends a conservative evangelical type, of BIBLE TEACHING CHURCH.
Here is where we get the concept AFTER we BELIEVE IN THE HEART (BORN AGAIN), we will WANT TO WALK IN OBEDIENCE OUT OF LOVE FOR HIM.
Acts 8:26-39 (HCSB)
[SUP]26 [/SUP] An angel of the Lord spoke to Philip: “Get up and go south to the road that goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza.” (This is the desert road.)
[SUP]27 [/SUP] So he got up and went. There was an Ethiopian man, a eunuch and high official of Candace, queen of the Ethiopians, who was in charge of her entire treasury. He had come to worship in Jerusalem
[SUP]28 [/SUP] and was sitting in his chariot on his way home, reading the prophet Isaiah aloud.
[SUP]29 [/SUP] The Spirit told Philip, “Go and join that chariot.”
[SUP]30 [/SUP] When Philip ran up to it, he heard him reading the prophet Isaiah, and said, “Do you understand what you’re reading?”
[SUP]31 [/SUP] “How can I,” he said, “unless someone guides me?” So he invited Philip to come up and sit with him.
[SUP]32 [/SUP] Now the Scripture passage he was reading was this: He was led like a sheep to the slaughter, and as a lamb is silent before its shearer, so He does not open His mouth.
[SUP]33 [/SUP] In His humiliation justice was denied Him. Who will describe His generation? For His life is taken from the earth.
[SUP]34 [/SUP] The eunuch replied to Philip, “I ask you, who is the prophet saying this about—himself or another person?”
[SUP]35 [/SUP] So Philip proceeded to tell him the good news about Jesus, beginning from that Scripture.
[SUP]36 [/SUP] As they were traveling down the road, they came to some water. The eunuch said, “Look, there’s water! What would keep me from being baptized?”
[SUP]37 [/SUP] [And Philip said, “If you believe with all your heart you may.” And he replied, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”] {There is the EXACT order of SALVATION, described in Rom. 10:9-10. He believed in his HEART, and Confessed the with his mouth the LORD JESUS CHRIST, and was SAVED from that MOMENT ON. Therefore even in that example, getting Baptized is something that you DO AFTER SALVATION.}
[SUP]38 [/SUP] Then he ordered the chariot to stop, and both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water, and he baptized him.
[SUP]39 [/SUP] When they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord carried Philip away, and the eunuch did not see him any longer. But he went on his way rejoicing.
John 14:15 (HCSB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] “If you love Me, {Which equals BORN AGAIN or SAVED}
you will keepMy commands. {After we are SAVED, then the New Nature a characteristic of all who WERE BORN AGAIN in our Human Spirit, will want to be baptized and walk as Jesus walked .}
May I ask a personal question: "Why the PHOBIA of looking Catholic, that appears to be in you?"
Here is where we get the concept AFTER we BELIEVE IN THE HEART (BORN AGAIN), we will WANT TO WALK IN OBEDIENCE OUT OF LOVE FOR HIM.
Acts 8:26-39 (HCSB)
[SUP]26 [/SUP] An angel of the Lord spoke to Philip: “Get up and go south to the road that goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza.” (This is the desert road.)
[SUP]27 [/SUP] So he got up and went. There was an Ethiopian man, a eunuch and high official of Candace, queen of the Ethiopians, who was in charge of her entire treasury. He had come to worship in Jerusalem
[SUP]28 [/SUP] and was sitting in his chariot on his way home, reading the prophet Isaiah aloud.
[SUP]29 [/SUP] The Spirit told Philip, “Go and join that chariot.”
[SUP]30 [/SUP] When Philip ran up to it, he heard him reading the prophet Isaiah, and said, “Do you understand what you’re reading?”
[SUP]31 [/SUP] “How can I,” he said, “unless someone guides me?” So he invited Philip to come up and sit with him.
[SUP]32 [/SUP] Now the Scripture passage he was reading was this: He was led like a sheep to the slaughter, and as a lamb is silent before its shearer, so He does not open His mouth.
[SUP]33 [/SUP] In His humiliation justice was denied Him. Who will describe His generation? For His life is taken from the earth.
[SUP]34 [/SUP] The eunuch replied to Philip, “I ask you, who is the prophet saying this about—himself or another person?”
[SUP]35 [/SUP] So Philip proceeded to tell him the good news about Jesus, beginning from that Scripture.
[SUP]36 [/SUP] As they were traveling down the road, they came to some water. The eunuch said, “Look, there’s water! What would keep me from being baptized?”
[SUP]37 [/SUP] [And Philip said, “If you believe with all your heart you may.” And he replied, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”] {There is the EXACT order of SALVATION, described in Rom. 10:9-10. He believed in his HEART, and Confessed the with his mouth the LORD JESUS CHRIST, and was SAVED from that MOMENT ON. Therefore even in that example, getting Baptized is something that you DO AFTER SALVATION.}
[SUP]38 [/SUP] Then he ordered the chariot to stop, and both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water, and he baptized him.
[SUP]39 [/SUP] When they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord carried Philip away, and the eunuch did not see him any longer. But he went on his way rejoicing.
John 14:15 (HCSB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] “If you love Me, {Which equals BORN AGAIN or SAVED}
you will keepMy commands. {After we are SAVED, then the New Nature a characteristic of all who WERE BORN AGAIN in our Human Spirit, will want to be baptized and walk as Jesus walked .}
May I ask a personal question: "Why the PHOBIA of looking Catholic, that appears to be in you?"