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who would anyone want to do that?
Thats like telling a child who loves their parents to purposely misbehave so they can see if their parents will kick them out of the house and stop loving them.
I hope some day you find God. because he is not the mean old dictator who has no love your portraying him to be.
Thats like telling a child who loves their parents to purposely misbehave so they can see if their parents will kick them out of the house and stop loving them.
I hope some day you find God. because he is not the mean old dictator who has no love your portraying him to be.
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please define worthy
Luke 5:8-10
8 When Simon Peter saw this, he fell at Jesus’ knees and said, “Go away from me, Lord; I am a sinful man!” 9 For he and all his companions were astonished at the catch of fish they had taken, 10 and so were James and John, the sons of Zebedee, Simon’s partners.
Then Jesus said to Simon, “Don’t be afraid; from now on you will fish for people.”
Peter was not worthy, but Jesus accepted him
and also Romans 3:23 - all have fallen short of God's glory
Isaiah 6:5 - woe to me for I am a man of unclean lips
please define worthy
Luke 5:8-10
8 When Simon Peter saw this, he fell at Jesus’ knees and said, “Go away from me, Lord; I am a sinful man!” 9 For he and all his companions were astonished at the catch of fish they had taken, 10 and so were James and John, the sons of Zebedee, Simon’s partners.
Then Jesus said to Simon, “Don’t be afraid; from now on you will fish for people.”
Peter was not worthy, but Jesus accepted him
and also Romans 3:23 - all have fallen short of God's glory
Isaiah 6:5 - woe to me for I am a man of unclean lips
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Good point. I don't believe that any of us are worthy "in of ourselves" of receiving salvation. Through FAITH, believers are "accounted as worthy" (Luke 20:35) and "accounted as righteous" because we believe in Him/trust in Christ alone for salvation and not in works (Romans 4:5-6; Ephesians 2:8,9; Philippians 3:9), but apart from the blood of Christ, we are not worthy and righteous "in of ourselves" (Romans 3:23-26).
Don't you think the Disciples were saved as they walked with the living Savior before his crucifixion?
Matthew 16:16-17
And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
John 6:66-69
From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him. Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away? Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.
Later the Apostles received the holy spirit.
Matthew 16:16-17
And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
John 6:66-69
From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him. Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away? Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.
Later the Apostles received the holy spirit.
John 7:38-39
He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
John 14:17
Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
God is going to judge absolutely no one in heaven. Someone that is condemned would not be in heaven in the first place. Those that are born-again are not immediately in heaven but will die first and then resurrected. Your biblical understanding is very weak but that's alright, you just need to study and contemplate the word. I will pray for God to give you clarity of thought so you get into the word with a clear mind.
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