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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
Believing and following the words of Jesus and his apostles.
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Right, and would you say there is a general consensus among Christians as to what exactly were the words of Jesus and his apostles?

Or do people kind of make their own versions of Christianity?

If there are "false" Christians, can you point and show me which ones are false?

You probably did not know that Paul never met Jesus...
 
HeRoseFromTheDead said:
If there's apoint you're trying to make, I missed it. The LXX was used extensively by Jews during that era. The apostles quoted from it extensively.
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Also, the "apostles" that allegedly wrote the new testament wrote in fluent Greek, when they should have been illiterate and of Aramaic tongue. Never mind the fact that most Codices emerge from the mid second century and later. Non of which are in Aramaic.
 
Seedz said:
Exactly! Jews Living in the intertestamnetal period, under Roman rule (ancient Romans spoke Latin and Greek in case you didn't know). You forget that the Torah, Nevi'im and Ketuvim are much, much, older and they are the original versions of scripture, written in Hebrew.

True and complete meaning is almost always lost in translation.

Jews today do not use A Greek translation, they use a Hebrew version because that is the original language.
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We don't have the original Hebrew manuscripts. The LXX predates the Masoretic Text by about 1000 years. Based on the OT quotes in their NT writings, the apostles obviously used the LXX, or a pre-Masoretic text that matches the LXX.
 
Seedz said:
Also, the "apostles" that allegedly wrote the new testament wrote in fluent Greek, when they should have been illiterate and of Aramaic tongue. Never mind the fact that most Codices emerge from the mid second century and later. Non of which are in Aramaic.
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There would have been no point to write in Aramaic. That was the language of Palestine, and they were sent all over the Hellenized world to gather the lost sheep of Israel.
 
HeRoseFromTheDead said:
There would have been no point to write in Aramaic. That was the language of Palestine, and they were sent all over the Hellenized world to gather the lost sheep of Israel.
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So these peasants took on Greek language schooling and literacy classes?
 
HeRoseFromTheDead said:
We don't have the original Hebrew manuscripts. The LXX predates the Masoretic Text by about 1000 years. Based on the OT quotes in their NT writings, the apostles obviously used the LXX, or a pre-Masoretic text that matches the LXX.
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You realize that the Septuagint is a Greek TRANSLATION of the Hebrew Bible right? (first 5 books)

You are only mentioning actual documents found.... That does not mean that because the Masoretic text is from 1000CE the TANAKH was written in Greek.
 
Seedz said:
You realize that the Septuagint is a Greek TRANSLATION of the Hebrew Bible right? (first 5 books)

You are only mentioning actual documents found.... That does not mean that because the Masoretic text is from 1000CE the TANAKH was written in Greek.
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You're not making any sense.
 
Seedz said:
So these peasants took on Greek language schooling and literacy classes?
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The whole known world was Hellenized. Why wouldn't they know Greek? In various parts of Europe today peasants know several languages. You learn what you grow up with.
 
HeRoseFromTheDead said:
The whole known world was Hellenized. Why wouldn't they know Greek? In various parts of Europe today peasants know several languages. You learn what you grow up with.
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Oh and they were literate too? Even when the Bible says they were "unlearned" or "unlettered".
 
hannahcorn said:
Why do lgbtq supporters say "love is love" but then act like pedophilia is the worst thing in the world?? "its not a sexuality" they say,... well neither is homosexuality, its lustful temptations, am I correct?? dont men and women have certain both have certain traits and differences that makes them go well together? I need some good arguments against lgbtq stuff, im not sure what to say to my Christian friend who supports it. I need logical explanations plz? shes rly smart:giggle::unsure:(y)
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Romans -> Men with men and women with women <---the proverbial last straw, equates to a reprobate mind void of judgment and given over to sin, is lustful, unseemly and the last straw before judgment....

God burned 4 of 5 cities of the plain to the ground because of men lusting over men and refusing Lot's virgin daughters because of their desire to "know" in angels in a sexual sense.
 
oh, are we so intolerant like those lgqbt people say that we are?

how about let's try tolerating hellfire? intolerable? we must be close-minded!

let's train ourselves for hellfire, how about make a bed of nails, gasoline, and light ourselves on fire, stop drop and roll over a bed of nails?

can't tolerate that? perhaps tolerance is not all that cracked up to be
 
theanointedsinner said:
oh, are we so intolerant like those lgqbt people say that we are?

how about let's try tolerating hellfire? intolerable? we must be close-minded!

let's train ourselves for hellfire, how about make a bed of nails, gasoline, and light ourselves on fire, stop drop and roll over a bed of nails?

can't tolerate that? perhaps tolerance is not all that cracked up to be
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It honestly varies person to person. I cannot tell you that each Christian that I have met is identical. They each believe and understand the Bible in their own way, just like anyone else. You know why? Because our personal experience wholly depends upon individual and distinct human consciousness. You can only experience what you can yourself see or feel.

i.e. If I look at a page with a printed letter "A" on it, and you couldn't see the page, only I could, would you know what letter I am looking at?

They say a picture is worth a thousand words right? Imagine that we chaged the "A" to a sketch picture of a beach ball. Would you know then what it is that I am looking at, and if you saw the sketch would you also guess it was a beachball? What if it was a copy of a copy of a copy of a translated copy of a sketch to a different style format, would you know what it says then?

My point is that every person will see something else in it.

Many of my closest friends and family are Christians, actually most of them. That's the only life I know.

We usually all are good people. It is often assumed that if someone doesn't have Christ, they're probably not as good of a person.
 
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