Hebrews 6:4-6

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garee

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References in verses 5 and 6 to falling away, and a lack of restoration, are easily misconstrued to imply a lack of salvation.
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It is implying a lack of salivation. Better things, actual redemption of ones' soul.... passing from eternal death to eternal life, accompany salvation . God does not give partial gifts .

It has nothing to do with outward flesh of a Jew as natural unconverted or not born again men, of no faith. Their assumed faith is in respect to the things seen as if the kingdom of God was of this world.

They thought because they had Jewish flesh it was all the familiarity needed. That kind of fleshly familiarity that some thought they are born with created hatred for the Son of man and led to killing the Son of man because he would not provide for them a outward display and come ad bring fire down of the Gentile nations . He rebuked them for not having the proper manner of Spirit . God who is not a man us rejected that kind of familiarity. Spewing them from his mouth those who had become comfortly numb because of the flesh they were born with. No abiding comfort from the Holy Spirit our teacher comforter and guide who also brings to our minds the thing he has taught us. He eternal God not seen must increase, as we the temporal that are seen must decrease.

John 5:38-40 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not. Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
 
LW97

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garee said:
It is implying a lack of salivation. Better things, actual redemption of ones' soul.... passing from eternal death to eternal life, accompany salvation . God does not give partial gifts .

It has nothing to do with outward flesh of a Jew as natural unconverted or not born again men, of no faith. Their assumed faith is in respect to the things seen as if the kingdom of God was of this world.

They thought because they had Jewish flesh it was all the familiarity needed. That kind of fleshly familiarity that some thought they are born with created hatred for the Son of man and led to killing the Son of man because he would not provide for them a outward display and come ad bring fire down of the Gentile nations . He rebuked them for not having the proper manner of Spirit . God who is not a man us rejected that kind of familiarity. Spewing them from his mouth those who had become comfortly numb because of the flesh they were born with. No abiding comfort from the Holy Spirit our teacher comforter and guide who also brings to our minds the thing he has taught us. He eternal God not seen must increase, as we the temporal that are seen must decrease.

John 5:38-40 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not. Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
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amen
 
Chester

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Deade said:
Here is you sub-heading:
Warning Against Falling Away
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LOL! Not sure what a subheading in any version has to do with the meaning of the text?

Unless you think subheadings (added by man) are inspired?

LOL - though in this case I think it is a good subheading (my opinion!) :rolleyes:
 
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garee

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Chester said:
LOL! Not sure what a subheading in any version has to do with the meaning of the text?

Unless you think subheadings (added by man) are inspired?

LOL - though in this case I think it is a good subheading (my opinion!) :rolleyes:
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I would agree it is a good heading speaking of the group that crucifies Christ to their own self over and over every time they deny Christ in unbelief (no faith) exposing him to public shame as if one demonstration did not glory the father .

Better things accompany salvation other than thorns and briers. Actual redemption of one soul. (OSAS)

For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God: But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.
But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak..Hebrew 6: 7-9
 
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