Are there still apostles today?

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tourist said:
We had lunch at Burger King once, does that count?
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Yes, a place where we must be careful when entertaining strangers sent by God as messenger sent (apostle) .Perhaps they might have a word from the Lord that we had missed. Mc Donald's the same as an alley. We never know where he might sends us as His sent ones(apostles)

Hebrews 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
 
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tourist said:
Of course, you are correct but not on Friday's 'cause of the pepperoni. :)
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Indeed. Jesus fed thousands while He was here in the flesh. Loaves and fishes if I recall.

He is still the bread of Life that if you eat you never hunger again.

For the cause of Christ
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notuptome said:
Indeed. Jesus fed thousands while He was here in the flesh. Loaves and fishes if I recall.

He is still the bread of Life that if you eat you never hunger again.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
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Absolutely, and if you drink the water that He graciously provides you will no longer thirst for the truth.
 
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pjharrison

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DevotiontoBible said:
They had been meeting in separate homes of the wealthy. House churches are how Christianity started. Having meetings was not the issue for Paul but that they were rejecting Paul's authority as the Apostle who started the church and his message the Gospel. The Gospel was in danger of extinction for "meat" deeper teachings and spiritual elitists abusing charisma (gifts of the Spirit). They were dominionists with overrealized eschatology. The modern day apostles movement are spiritual elitists, and Charismatics, claiming to teach deeper truths the church has never known. Their focus is not on the authority of the original Apostles and the Gospel but on their authority with their "new revelations". With them they claim God is doing something new, never been done before, never known before etc. in order to push a overrealized eschatology postmillennial dominionist agenda.
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The deeper truth you are talking about is spiritual understanding , which only comes from the Holy Spirit. They couldn't understand, so he had to talk about nothing but Jesus and him Crucified. 1 Cor:2:6 -8 6 We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7 No, we declare God’s wisdom, a mystery that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 8 None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory
This is talking about the deeper truth ," as you put it". It's for the mature.
 
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pjharrison said:
The deeper truth you are talking about is spiritual understanding , which only comes from the Holy Spirit. They couldn't understand, so he had to talk about nothing but Jesus and him Crucified. 1 Cor:2:6 -8 6 We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7 No, we declare God’s wisdom, a mystery that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 8 None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory
This is talking about the deeper truth ," as you put it". It's for the mature.
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Paul is saying the crucified Lord is the deeper truth there is no other. But the Corinthians thought it was only "milk" not deep wisdom "meat". It is the same today. What message does your "apostle" focus on? Jesus Christ and Him crucified only 1Cor 2:2-5? Or "new revelations" with eloquent speaking?
 
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DevotiontoBible said:
Paul is saying the crucified Lord is the deeper truth there is no other. But the Corinthians thought it was only "milk" not deep wisdom "meat". It is the same today. What message does your "apostle" focus on? Jesus Christ and Him crucified only 1Cor 2:2-5? Or "new revelations" with eloquent speaking?
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You have to listen to his teachings. What an Apostle does is help others to come to the understanding of the things of God. Watch this one and see for yourself.
 
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selfdissolving said:
i apologize to everyone in this thread for this foolish and poorly tasteful comment.
it was pretty dumb. i don't think i can delete it??
i was trying to make a point, but i should not have posted this.
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Been there...
 
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yellowcanary said:
Are there apostles today ?? Of course there are. Just gotta belong to the right denomination and you'll find tons and tons of them. Watch out for the fake ones tho. It's sometimes hard to tell the difference.
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There are Disciples today. If we think to gainsay what Christ outlined as that which qualifies as an Apostle, watch out. That's not of God. That's the other guy. Just my two coppers. (*and a parrrrrrtridge in a fig tree. Hey, they got tired of the pear, K? :p)
 
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pjharrison said:
You have to listen to his teachings. What an Apostle does is help others to come to the understanding of the things of God. Watch this one and see for yourself.
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He repeats that "we have the very nature of God" a lot of times in that video. The only nature of God we have is His moral and intellect nature which does include love 2 Pet 1:4. But God's nature is eternal. Did you always exist? His nature is omnipresent. Are you everwhere? His nature is omniscient. Are you all knowing? He is omnipotent? Are you all powerful? So without listening to his other parts yet I would listen to see how much he makes believers into gods. The little god heresy is a main premise for Word of Faith theology.
 
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pjharrison said:
No he's not a pastor, he's an apostle. He doesn't belong to any Church.
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He's not an apostle either. As to not belonging to the church well that will be revealed later.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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DevotiontoBible said:
He repeats that "we have the very nature of God" a lot of times in that video. The only nature of God we have is His moral and intellect nature which does include love 2 Pet 1:4. But God's nature is eternal. Did you always exist? His nature is omnipresent. Are you everwhere? His nature is omniscient. Are you all knowing? He is omnipotent? Are you all powerful? So without listening to his other parts yet I would listen to see how much he makes believers into gods. The little god heresy is a main premise for Word of Faith theology.
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God is transforming us into his nature, so that we can join the head. We can't fit as we are now. You are intitled to your opinion. I will keep listening to him, because I know he is truly of God.
 
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pjharrison said:
God is transforming us into his nature, so that we can join the head. We can't fit as we are now. You are intitled to your opinion. I will keep listening to him, because I know he is truly of God.
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Answer this: how is God transforming you into His eternal (not having a beginning or end) nature since you had a beginning, you have not always existed?
 
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notuptome said:
He's not an apostle either. As to not belonging to the church well that will be revealed later.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
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I have been listening to him for years. He does not have Church, or belong to a Church. He lives by faith. The books he have written or all free.
 
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DevotiontoBible said:
Answer this: how is God transforming you into His eternal (not having a beginning or end) nature since you had a beginning, you have not always existed?
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2 Corinthians 3:18 And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the LORD's glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the LORD, who is the Spirit.
 
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