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pjharrison

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She already said she didn't have a teacher which if she was anointed she would have known since it is the he that annoints that teaches you all things not the anointing which would be evident to her if she was anointed. So if the anointing teaches all things she would have responded to the question with the reply "the anointing was teaching her".

But since she responded she had no teacher then is she saying the Spirit of truth was speaking in her when she replied to the question regarding who her teacher was?
After I stop going to Church. I was listening to Sam Soleyn, he is an Apostle. I still listen to him every now and then. After I learned enough from him, I stepped out on my own. The Holy spirit started to lead. I was knocked down a few times, and beaten and battered. I backslid. The devil beat me up. I began to fear God and that keep me from intentionally sinning. When the Holy Spirit teaches, he teaches indeed. The lessons are written on your heart. You don't need to be told or taught that same things again. He teaches you literally. He is renewing the mind. The mind has to be brought back to the mind that Adam had before he sinned. When people read 1 John 2:26-27, they don't believe that is possible, at least not for me.
 
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pjharrison

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She already said she didn't have a teacher which if she was anointed she would have known since it is the he that annoints that teaches you all things not the anointing which would be evident to her if she was anointed. So if the anointing teaches all things she would have responded to the question with the reply "the anointing was teaching her".

But since she responded she had no teacher then is she saying the Spirit of truth was speaking in her when she replied to the question regarding who her teacher was?
I started out listening to Sam Soleyn. He is an Apostle. After I came into my understanding, I was on my own. Sam don't have a church. Faith comes by hearing. Then the Holy Spirit started to lead. I got knocked down many times and put in my place, I backslid, and was beat up by the devil. Then I got serious, and started to fear God. That keeps me from intentionally sinning. When the Holy Spirit teaches, he teaches indeed. It stays with you. He is renewing the mind.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Ok what this mean to you? 1 John 2:26-27 26I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray. 27As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit-just as it has taught you, remain in him.
still refusing to understand this scripture?

you refuse to reply to the post in which I answered you what I thought of I John 2:26-27

you dodged it saying the reply made no sense

the problem you have with how those verses should be viewed and understood, is the CONTEXT in which they are found

like so many before you that believe they have special revelation and do not need anyone to teach them, is the out of context verses picked and a sad lack of understanding the FOUNDATIONAL teaching of the gospel of Christ

the Bible itself states it is not to be interpreted privately...as you do, but should be understood on the foundation of the faith which has been taught once and for all

you go about rending the posts of others and telling them they are wrong and yet you pay absolutely no attention to a post that includes scripture and a proper understanding according to ALL commentaries and even the original languages and say it makes not sense to you

frankly, I don't think you gave it and other posts here, the time of day

I don't think you bothered to read that post and I don't think you read others that you know will refute your flat earth world position

I guess the only way you could actually make sense here, is if you actually did reply to what I posted...what YOU asked me to post and do the same for others that you do not read but then say they make no sense
 
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7seasrekeyed

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first off, THERE IS NO PRIVATE INTERPRETATION of scripture:

20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 2 Peter 1:20

reading II Peter 1:20 in context, we see Peter is referring to OT prophecy and the fact that God spoke through the prophets by His Holy Spirit...continuing in II Peter 2, Peter speaks about false teachers of the then present day...the time he lived in...and continuing in that chapter we read that thes false teachers reveal themselves by how they live and the sin(s) they commit

your interpretation of I John 2: 26-27 is a fallacy believed in by those who do not think they need to be taught and whose 'understanding' of scripture deviates from what is commonly understood, meaning to take the WHOLE counsel of scripture and not just a section or a few verses out of context and derive a new doctrine which actually amounts to private interpretation

so, what is the view held on I John 2:26-27 that has been held since the conception of the NT church regarding private interpretation?

26 I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray. 27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.
1 John 2:26-27

as you are fixed on the highlighted portion above, let's look at what the intention of John actually is here

first of all, John is not speaking to isolated people who do not come together as a body of believers. John is speaking to people who DO come together as a body of believers so he is NOT writing to individuals who believe they have no teachers and can function all alone (which is actually contrary to what scripture says we are to do)

what does he mean by you do not need anyone to teach you? what does he mean about a real and not counterfeit anointing?

he is speaking of what they have been taught from the beginning...he is writing of the truth that they ALREADY so therefore they are not to accept any other teaching

you interpret it to mean they don't need a teacher

if no teacher is needed, then why is one of the gifts through the Spirit of God 'teaching'?

there is only ONE truth and there is only one devil and he takes that one truth and creates deceiving doctrines and false doctrines and false prophecies through 'doctrines of demons'...teaching spirits that imitate the Holy Spirit and lead gullible people into deception and AWAY from the truth

it is impossible that we do not need teachers as Christ Himself said to go and teach all nations

here is a longer explanation of the above from someone who is answering the question you asked:

Let’s walk through the text and let the context help us out here. Admittedly, it does sound strange to hear John say in 1 John 2:27: “You have no need that anyone should teach you.” It sounds strange, because he himself is at that moment doing a kind of teaching. And it sounds strange because Jesus commanded us to teach the nations all things. And it sounds strange because teaching is a spiritual gift from God which he would want us to use — and on and on. The reasons why it would sound strange are many. So let’s look, because we know that he is not stupid. He knows what he is saying. He means what he means. And we want to dig in here and let the context help us see how this is coherent.

read the rest here
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LET'S HAVE YOUR RESPONSE PLEASE. THIS DEALS DIRECTLY WITH THE VERSES YOU BELIEVE TELL YOU THAT YOU DO NOT NEED ANYONE TO TEACH YOU.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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does anyone here understand what the foundation Peter, John and the rest, write of actually is?

does anyone here understand what Paul meant when he said let the person who preaches a different gospel than the one you FIRST heard be accursed?

or maybe people think that is just all something we can choose to believe or not

the deviations from the gospel on this site and the total lax and uncaring attitude towards having that firm foundation, which guards against decpetion and upon which we build our lives as Christians, is unbelievable!

and the verses taken out of context to give air and blood supply to these off the wall bizarre speculations are also without equal

the dismissal of actual study and contextual application seems to be a lost art for many here

only be offended if this applies to you as you read. then again you may not know what I'm talking about :rolleyes:
 
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7seasrekeyed

Guest
Is the Apostle John saying we do not need to be taught? (no he isn't ...but read on)

In 1 John 2:27
the apostle tells his readers, “you have no need that anyone should teach you.” He says this because they have been “anointed by the Holy One”. As a result of this anointing they don’t need anyone to teach them.
What about us?
Is this an affirmation that if I have the “anointing of the Holy One” that I’m fine missing Sunday School? After all, if I’ve got God Almighty teaching my heart then, I don’t need nobody teachin’ me nuthin’.

What is the “anointing”?
In order to answer this question we first need to be clear on what this “anointing” is? I’ve heard some interpret this passage as if what John is saying is that some people receive direct revelations from the Spirit—and this is the anointing. And as a result, they don’t need teachers.

In actuality, such an interpretation would undercut John’s message. When we consider this verse in its context we see that John is likely dealing with a group of false teachers that are claiming special knowledge. They’ve abandoned the gospel. They haven’t “let what [they] heard from the beginning abide in [them]”.

Special messages that lead to a claim of special and/or secret knowledge from God is the very problem that John is facing. What John means when he says that they have been “anointed by the Holy One” is that they have been given the Holy Spirit. The consistent use of this word is “in relation to an anointing whose agent is God and whose medium is the Holy Spirit”. (Kruse, 103)

Because John’s readers have received the Holy Spirit they have within them all the knowledge they need. They don’t need something new or special. They simply need to remain faithful to the gospel that they’ve already received.


source

if you have not received the truth and you believe you do not need to be taught, according to the Bible, you may not even be saved

this is not a judgement...this is a simple fact

if you deviate from the foundation...the gospel as it was once and for all delivered...then you may be deceived

all of this is in scripture but many refuse to see or just plain choose not to believe
 
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pjharrison

Guest
first off, THERE IS NO PRIVATE INTERPRETATION of scripture:

20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 2 Peter 1:20

reading II Peter 1:20 in context, we see Peter is referring to OT prophecy and the fact that God spoke through the prophets by His Holy Spirit...continuing in II Peter 2, Peter speaks about false teachers of the then present day...the time he lived in...and continuing in that chapter we read that thes false teachers reveal themselves by how they live and the sin(s) they commit

your interpretation of I John 2: 26-27 is a fallacy believed in by those who do not think they need to be taught and whose 'understanding' of scripture deviates from what is commonly understood, meaning to take the WHOLE counsel of scripture and not just a section or a few verses out of context and derive a new doctrine which actually amounts to private interpretation

so, what is the view held on I John 2:26-27 that has been held since the conception of the NT church regarding private interpretation?

26 I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray. 27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.
1 John 2:26-27

as you are fixed on the highlighted portion above, let's look at what the intention of John actually is here

first of all, John is not speaking to isolated people who do not come together as a body of believers. John is speaking to people who DO come together as a body of believers so he is NOT writing to individuals who believe they have no teachers and can function all alone (which is actually contrary to what scripture says we are to do)

what does he mean by you do not need anyone to teach you? what does he mean about a real and not counterfeit anointing?

he is speaking of what they have been taught from the beginning...he is writing of the truth that they ALREADY so therefore they are not to accept any other teaching

you interpret it to mean they don't need a teacher

if no teacher is needed, then why is one of the gifts through the Spirit of God 'teaching'?

there is only ONE truth and there is only one devil and he takes that one truth and creates deceiving doctrines and false doctrines and false prophecies through 'doctrines of demons'...teaching spirits that imitate the Holy Spirit and lead gullible people into deception and AWAY from the truth

it is impossible that we do not need teachers as Christ Himself said to go and teach all nations

here is a longer explanation of the above from someone who is answering the question you asked:

Let’s walk through the text and let the context help us out here. Admittedly, it does sound strange to hear John say in 1 John 2:27: “You have no need that anyone should teach you.” It sounds strange, because he himself is at that moment doing a kind of teaching. And it sounds strange because Jesus commanded us to teach the nations all things. And it sounds strange because teaching is a spiritual gift from God which he would want us to use — and on and on. The reasons why it would sound strange are many. So let’s look, because we know that he is not stupid. He knows what he is saying. He means what he means. And we want to dig in here and let the context help us see how this is coherent.

read the rest here
Click to expand...

LET'S HAVE YOUR RESPONSE PLEASE. THIS DEALS DIRECTLY WITH THE VERSES YOU BELIEVE TELL YOU THAT YOU DO NOT NEED ANYONE TO TEACH YOU.
First of all read this, I started out listening to Sam Soleyn. He is an Apostle. After I came into my understanding, I was on my own. Sam don't have a church. Faith comes by hearing. Then the Holy Spirit started to lead. I got knocked down many times and put in my place, I backslid, and was beat up by the devil. Then I got serious, and started to fear God. That keeps me from intentionally sinning. When the Holy Spirit teaches, he teaches indeed. It stays with you. He is renewing the mind
And you should read the whole chapter 1 john 2. John is talking about those who have went out and started their own little bodies, because the body of Christ has to function in the world but not of it. The body of Christ is different from the world. Those in the world are the ones he is talking about. They are the ones trying to lead the Body of Christ astray, by telling them they need to be taught by someone. I was taught once by a man , but no longer am I being taught by a man.
 
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pjharrison

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First of all read this, I started out listening to Sam Soleyn. He is an Apostle. After I came into my understanding, I was on my own. Sam don't have a church. Faith comes by hearing. Then the Holy Spirit started to lead. I got knocked down many times and put in my place, I backslid, and was beat up by the devil. Then I got serious, and started to fear God. That keeps me from intentionally sinning. When the Holy Spirit teaches, he teaches indeed. It stays with you. He is renewing the mind
And you should read the whole chapter 1 john 2. John is talking about those who have went out and started their own little bodies, because the body of Christ has to function in the world but not of it. The body of Christ is different from the world. Those in the world are the ones he is talking about. They are the ones trying to lead the Body of Christ astray, by telling them they need to be taught by someone. I was taught once by a man , but no longer am I being taught by a man.
There is a time when we have to leave the school master.
 

Zmouth

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I started out listening to Sam Soleyn. He is an Apostle. After I came into my understanding, I was on my own. Sam don't have a church. Faith comes by hearing. Then the Holy Spirit started to lead. I got knocked down many times and put in my place, I backslid, and was beat up by the devil. Then I got serious, and started to fear God. That keeps me from intentionally sinning. When the Holy Spirit teaches, he teaches indeed. It stays with you. He is renewing the mind.
What brought you to the Bible? Or should I say Sam Soleyn?
 

NayborBear

Banned Serpent Seed Heresy
does anyone here understand what the foundation Peter, John and the rest, write of actually is?

does anyone here understand what Paul meant when he said let the person who preaches a different gospel than the one you FIRST heard be accursed?

or maybe people think that is just all something we can choose to believe or not

the deviations from the gospel on this site and the total lax and uncaring attitude towards having that firm foundation, which guards against decpetion and upon which we build our lives as Christians, is unbelievable!

and the verses taken out of context to give air and blood supply to these off the wall bizarre speculations are also without equal

the dismissal of actual study and contextual application seems to be a lost art for many here

only be offended if this applies to you as you read. then again you may not know what I'm talking about :rolleyes:[/QU
does anyone here understand what the foundation Peter, John and the rest, write of actually is?

does anyone here understand what Paul meant when he said let the person who preaches a different gospel than the one you FIRST heard be accursed?

or maybe people think that is just all something we can choose to believe or not

the deviations from the gospel on this site and the total lax and uncaring attitude towards having that firm foundation, which guards against decpetion and upon which we build our lives as Christians, is unbelievable!

and the verses taken out of context to give air and blood supply to these off the wall bizarre speculations are also without equal

the dismissal of actual study and contextual application seems to be a lost art for many here

only be offended if this applies to you as you read. then again you may not know what I'm talking about :rolleyes:

I am not responding to this reply, as in some form of defense for, pjharrison, as if she needs defending. But, I shall, by means of my testimony, of just what happened, and was said to me? Be a witness, either to, for or against that which seems apparent, you are not understanding. Nor, are able in "letting go, and letting the Father!"

Several years ago, about 30+, to be exact, after I "walked away" from crack cocaine, and POing the devil to no end, resulting in more then 1 "frightful visions", the details of which, I shall not go into. And, after having an "event" happen, which, the "only" biblical way of describing it was an visitation, of which I was told, that I was being "awarded" "acts attributable towards righteousness", for my "walking away" from the crack pipe, on "WILL Alone!" And, that I was "just then" "Born FROM Above!" And, that "I'm HERE! and INSIDE You, and I'm NOT leaving!" "So, you best figure out some way of DEALING with it!" And, I said, "You're going to have Drag me, screaming and kicking and scratching, EVERY INCH of the way!" To which: "GOOD!!" "THAT'S the way I like 'em!" Was the response, He gave me!

Well?, As one might guess, It wasn't long before I enrolled myself into a home study course from Moody Bible Institute, in Chicago. That's in Illinois, U.S.of A., for those from across the pond, where protraits of our old govenors, can be seen on post office walls! (younger people won't understand, but older people will ;)....anyway) Cost me 500 bucks too!

It was while I was doing my 2nd lesson, "Do you want "them" to teach you?" "Or, do you want ME to teach you?" Came into my head, Just as clear as if someone were sitting right across from me! But, of course there was no physical presence, to be seen! Yet, THERE He was! And, I knew, well?....Thought, I knew, who it was! But, I was wrong! Well? MOSTLY wrong, anyway! T'was the Spirit of GOD! Yeah! That SAME "Spirit of GOD", written of in:
Genesis 6:3 (Complete Jewish Bible)
Adonai said, “My Spirit will not live in human beings forever, for they too are flesh; therefore their life span is to be 120 years.”

The BEST 500 bucks, I've "ever" blown! Changed my spiritual life FOREVER!

"From the Inside OUT!" "From the BOTTOM to the TOP!" "Is how JEHOVAH "builds" His Priests!"

So you wish to tell me that which I fail to understand?

You seem to be of an understanding that these "BIZARRE Speculations", as you call them, are just some "wing nut jobs", blabbering incoherently, concerning matters of a "Spiritual Kingdom!" For one, they aren't "speculation." Neither, are they "bizarre." People like us, can only try in our telling, that there are indeed, missing dots, in your "connectings of." We can, by our telling, let people know they are there, to be connected. But, we can't make, nor force one to see 'em! This comes from much spiritual sacrificing's, and circumcising of the heart! THIS, is something, one MUST DO, for oneself! It takes "TOO MUCH OIL", As the parable of the 10 virgins, will attest to.
 
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pjharrison

Guest
I am not responding to this reply, as in some form of defense for, pjharrison, as if she needs defending. But, I shall, by means of my testimony, of just what happened, and was said to me? Be a witness, either to, for or against that which seems apparent, you are not understanding. Nor, are able in "letting go, and letting the Father!"

Several years ago, about 30+, to be exact, after I "walked away" from crack cocaine, and POing the devil to no end, resulting in more then 1 "frightful visions", the details of which, I shall not go into. And, after having an "event" happen, which, the "only" biblical way of describing it was an visitation, of which I was told, that I was being "awarded" "acts attributable towards righteousness", for my "walking away" from the crack pipe, on "WILL Alone!" And, that I was "just then" "Born FROM Above!" And, that "I'm HERE! and INSIDE You, and I'm NOT leaving!" "So, you best figure out some way of DEALING with it!" And, I said, "You're going to have Drag me, screaming and kicking and scratching, EVERY INCH of the way!" To which: "GOOD!!" "THAT'S the way I like 'em!" Was the response, He gave me!

Well?, As one might guess, It wasn't long before I enrolled myself into a home study course from Moody Bible Institute, in Chicago. That's in Illinois, U.S.of A., for those from across the pond, where protraits of our old govenors, can be seen on post office walls! (younger people won't understand, but older people will ;)....anyway) Cost me 500 bucks too!

It was while I was doing my 2nd lesson, "Do you want "them" to teach you?" "Or, do you want ME to teach you?" Came into my head, Just as clear as if someone were sitting right across from me! But, of course there was no physical presence, to be seen! Yet, THERE He was! And, I knew, well?....Thought, I knew, who it was! But, I was wrong! Well? MOSTLY wrong, anyway! T'was the Spirit of GOD! Yeah! That SAME "Spirit of GOD", written of in:
Genesis 6:3 (Complete Jewish Bible)
Adonai said, “My Spirit will not live in human beings forever, for they too are flesh; therefore their life span is to be 120 years.”

The BEST 500 bucks, I've "ever" blown! Changed my spiritual life FOREVER!

"From the Inside OUT!" "From the BOTTOM to the TOP!" "Is how JEHOVAH "builds" His Priests!"

So you wish to tell me that which I fail to understand?

You seem to be of an understanding that these "BIZARRE Speculations", as you call them, are just some "wing nut jobs", blabbering incoherently, concerning matters of a "Spiritual Kingdom!" For one, they aren't "speculation." Neither, are they "bizarre." People like us, can only try in our telling, that there are indeed, missing dots, in your "connectings of." We can, by our telling, let people know they are there, to be connected. But, we can't make, nor force one to see 'em! This comes from much spiritual sacrificing's, and circumcising of the heart! THIS, is something, one MUST DO, for oneself! It takes "TOO MUCH OIL", As the parable of the 10 virgins, will attest to.
Nayborbear
I am not responding to this reply, as in some form of defense for, pjharrison, as if she needs defending. But, I shall, by means of my testimony, of just what happened, and was said to me? Be a witness, either to, for or against that which seems apparent, you are not understanding. Nor, are able in "letting go, and letting the Father!"

Several years ago, about 30+, to be exact, after I "walked away" from crack cocaine, and POing the devil to no end, resulting in more then 1 "frightful visions", the details of which, I shall not go into. And, after having an "event" happen, which, the "only" biblical way of describing it was an visitation, of which I was told, that I was being "awarded" "acts attributable towards righteousness", for my "walking away" from the crack pipe, on "WILL Alone!" And, that I was "just then" "Born FROM Above!" And, that "I'm HERE! and INSIDE You, and I'm NOT leaving!" "So, you best figure out some way of DEALING with it!" And, I said, "You're going to have Drag me, screaming and kicking and scratching, EVERY INCH of the way!" To which: "GOOD!!" "THAT'S the way I like 'em!" Was the response, He gave me!

Well?, As one might guess, It wasn't long before I enrolled myself into a home study course from Moody Bible Institute, in Chicago. That's in Illinois, U.S.of A., for those from across the pond, where protraits of our old govenors, can be seen on post office walls! (younger people won't understand, but older people will ;)....anyway) Cost me 500 bucks too!

It was while I was doing my 2nd lesson, "Do you want "them" to teach you?" "Or, do you want ME to teach you?" Came into my head, Just as clear as if someone were sitting right across from me! But, of course there was no physical presence, to be seen! Yet, THERE He was! And, I knew, well?....Thought, I knew, who it was! But, I was wrong! Well? MOSTLY wrong, anyway! T'was the Spirit of GOD! Yeah! That SAME "Spirit of GOD", written of in:
Genesis 6:3 (Complete Jewish Bible)
Adonai said, “My Spirit will not live in human beings forever, for they too are flesh; therefore their life span is to be 120 years.”

The BEST 500 bucks, I've "ever" blown! Changed my spiritual life FOREVER!

"From the Inside OUT!" "From the BOTTOM to the TOP!" "Is how JEHOVAH "builds" His Priests!"

So you wish to tell me that which I fail to understand?

You seem to be of an understanding that these "BIZARRE Speculations", as you call them, are just some "wing nut jobs", blabbering incoherently, concerning matters of a "Spiritual Kingdom!" For one, they aren't "speculation." Neither, are they "bizarre." People like us, can only try in our telling, that there are indeed, missing dots, in your "connectings of." We can, by our telling, let people know they are there, to be connected. But, we can't make, nor force one to see 'em! This comes from much spiritual sacrificing's, and circumcising of the heart! THIS, is something, one MUST DO, for oneself! It takes "TOO MUCH OIL", As the parable of the 10 virgins, will attest to.
I am not responding to this reply, as in some form of defense for, pjharrison, as if she needs defending. But, I shall, by means of my testimony, of just what happened, and was said to me? Be a witness, either to, for or against that which seems apparent, you are not understanding. Nor, are able in "letting go, and letting the Father!"

Several years ago, about 30+, to be exact, after I "walked away" from crack cocaine, and POing the devil to no end, resulting in more then 1 "frightful visions", the details of which, I shall not go into. And, after having an "event" happen, which, the "only" biblical way of describing it was an visitation, of which I was told, that I was being "awarded" "acts attributable towards righteousness", for my "walking away" from the crack pipe, on "WILL Alone!" And, that I was "just then" "Born FROM Above!" And, that "I'm HERE! and INSIDE You, and I'm NOT leaving!" "So, you best figure out some way of DEALING with it!" And, I said, "You're going to have Drag me, screaming and kicking and scratching, EVERY INCH of the way!" To which: "GOOD!!" "THAT'S the way I like 'em!" Was the response, He gave me!

Well?, As one might guess, It wasn't long before I enrolled myself into a home study course from Moody Bible Institute, in Chicago. That's in Illinois, U.S.of A., for those from across the pond, where protraits of our old govenors, can be seen on post office walls! (younger people won't understand, but older people will ;)....anyway) Cost me 500 bucks too!

It was while I was doing my 2nd lesson, "Do you want "them" to teach you?" "Or, do you want ME to teach you?" Came into my head, Just as clear as if someone were sitting right across from me! But, of course there was no physical presence, to be seen! Yet, THERE He was! And, I knew, well?....Thought, I knew, who it was! But, I was wrong! Well? MOSTLY wrong, anyway! T'was the Spirit of GOD! Yeah! That SAME "Spirit of GOD", written of in:
Genesis 6:3 (Complete Jewish Bible)
Adonai said, “My Spirit will not live in human beings forever, for they too are flesh; therefore their life span is to be 120 years.”

The BEST 500 bucks, I've "ever" blown! Changed my spiritual life FOREVER!

"From the Inside OUT!" "From the BOTTOM to the TOP!" "Is how JEHOVAH "builds" His Priests!"

So you wish to tell me that which I fail to understand?

You seem to be of an understanding that these "BIZARRE Speculations", as you call them, are just some "wing nut jobs", blabbering incoherently, concerning matters of a "Spiritual Kingdom!" For one, they aren't "speculation." Neither, are they "bizarre." People like us, can only try in our telling, that there are indeed, missing dots, in your "connectings of." We can, by our telling, let people know they are there, to be connected. But, we can't make, nor force one to see 'em! This comes from much spiritual sacrificing's, and circumcising of the heart! THIS, is something, one MUST DO, for oneself! It takes "TOO MUCH OIL", As the parable of the 10 virgins, will attest to.
Nayborbear are you sure that was God? When the demons come out, they come back stronger.
 

NayborBear

Banned Serpent Seed Heresy
Nayborbear


Nayborbear are you sure that was God? When the demons come out, they come back stronger.
Oh YEAH! It felt like a "wave" that started out Great, in its love and light, and became Terrible, in its "revealings!" Rendering me, it was really weird, cuz, a part of me was both with Him, and looking at myself, which was also me, as a "quivering blob of protoplasm", like a melted snowball on the floor, with just my "beating" heart visible above, yet within this "puddle."

Yeah!....There was no doubt, and NO DENYING, as to WHO, it was! :)
 
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Oh YEAH! It felt like a "wave" that started out Great, in its love and light, and became Terrible, in its "revealings!" Rendering me, it was really weird, cuz, a part of me was both with Him, and looking at myself, which was also me, as a "quivering blob of protoplasm", like a melted snowball on the floor, with just my "beating" heart visible above, yet within this "puddle."

Yeah!....There was no doubt, and NO DENYING, as to WHO, it was! :)
Do you still attend Church?
 

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When people read 1 John 2:26-27, they don't believe that is possible, at least not for me.
Well, all things are possible to them that believe. Kinda like that one member who posted "first off, THERE IS NO PRIVATE INTERPRETATION of scripture:" as if we are bound to his prophesy of scripture that there is no private interpretation of scripture. {Just between you and me he is real sensitive so he will start gnashing and foaming at anything but I am probably preaching to the choir}
But remember what is written in John 3:11 regarding what they know, not what one believes and what they seen, not ones imagination.

Yet the important part of 1 John 2:26-27 is verse 28

And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

2 Cor 4:18
 
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pjharrison

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Well, all things are possible to them that believe. Kinda like that one member who posted "first off, THERE IS NO PRIVATE INTERPRETATION of scripture:" as if we are bound to his prophesy of scripture that there is no private interpretation of scripture. {Just between you and me he is real sensitive so he will start gnashing and foaming at anything but I am probably preaching to the choir}
But remember what is written in John 3:11 regarding what they know, not what one believes and what they seen, not ones imagination.

Yet the important part of 1 John 2:26-27 is verse 28

And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

2 Cor 4:18
Amen
 

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Genesis 6:3 (Complete Jewish Bible)
Adonai said, “My Spirit will not live in human beings forever, for they too are flesh; therefore their life span is to be 120 years.”
If seems pretty obvious that anyone who believes that interpreation will cease to exist within a 120 years of their birth. So when was that interpretation copyrighted?

It ain't got no water, so that all in whose nostrils was the breath of life , of all that was in the dry land died.
Gen 7:22
 
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If seems pretty obvious that anyone who believes that interpreation will cease to exist within a 120 years of their birth. So when was that interpretation copyrighted?
That was before the flood , when God shorten the years of man. Men were living too long.