The Lie of Evolution......

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Jewel5712

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With evolving do you mean we are gaining information in DNA or do you mean that DNA is selecting certain traits.
I mean environmental changes..tge climate..the food source..for instance the first men that were hunters ..body structure different..brain structure..teeth....where the ones that were more forgers and farmers were different...now WHO in the Bible..set of brothers..1 was hunter..1 was farmer..that gave thier offering to God.? Lol..love when science n Bible come together!
 

T_Laurich

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The bible contradicts your theory...
You even post a great story that shows your contradiction...
No where in the bible does it say humans were first hunters... In fact we were farmers at first... E.G. Adam and Eve....


But you have side stepped the question...
So I will ask again and hope you don't rabbit trail again.
With evolving do you mean we are gaining information in DNA or do you mean that DNA is selecting certain traits.
 

Jewel5712

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The bible contradicts your theory...
You even post a great story that shows your contradiction...
No where in the bible does it say humans were first hunters... In fact we were farmers at first... E.G. Adam and Eve....


But you have side stepped the question...
So I will ask again and hope you don't rabbit trail again.
With evolving do you mean we are gaining information in DNA or do you mean that DNA is selecting certain traits.
And again you seem pretty closed minded to see my answers and 'adding" words to my answers..never said that they were FIRST "hunters" etc ..please study or google envuronmental changes/evolution of man. And as far as the dna question ..that wasnt your ORIGINAL question (which i answered 2 times so no rabbit hole) and i ALSO said im not a darwyn evolutionist...i BELIEVE in creationism n i told you why..how etc so why the continued beat down?
 

Jewel5712

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The bible contradicts your theory...
You even post a great story that shows your contradiction...
No where in the bible does it say humans were first hunters... In fact we were farmers at first... E.G. Adam and Eve....


But you have side stepped the question...
So I will ask again and hope you don't rabbit trail again.
With evolving do you mean we are gaining information in DNA or do you mean that DNA is selecting certain traits.
Repeating yourself doesnt prove a point..its just tail chasing which ive done with you now 3 times so SOMEONE isnt LISTENING!
 
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God created MAN in His image..but (as ive previously stated) i believe duee to environmental changes both man n animimal had to adapt and evolve..were STILL evolving..
Adapt and evolve are very different ideas. No we are not still evolving.
 

Jewel5712

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The bible contradicts your theory...
You even post a great story that shows your contradiction...
No where in the bible does it say humans were first hunters... In fact we were farmers at first... E.G. Adam and Eve....


But you have side stepped the question...
So I will ask again and hope you don't rabbit trail again.
With evolving do you mean we are gaining information in DNA or do you mean that DNA is selecting certain traits.
Here..ill help..AND WE ARE STILL EVOLVING TODAY...

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trofimus

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Question, what was the first living creature according to evolution?
I know the bible says Man.... So according to your belief what was the first living creature and how did it come about?
Actually, bible says that spiritual beings were first.

Regarding life on our planet, sea life was first according to Genesis 1.

Which is what the evolution theory says, too. Life evolved in waters first.
 

Jewel5712

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The bible contradicts your theory...
You even post a great story that shows your contradiction...
No where in the bible does it say humans were first hunters... In fact we were farmers at first... E.G. Adam and Eve....


But you have side stepped the question...
So I will ask again and hope you don't rabbit trail again.
With evolving do you mean we are gaining information in DNA or do you mean that DNA is selecting certain traits.
Read the Biblical story of Jacob and Esau..they are the EXAMPLE i was referring to earlier..one was a hunter..1 farmer..NOT SAYING THEY WERE THE VERY FIRST because ive already answered your question as to what "creature was created first".
 

Jewel5712

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Adapt and evolve are very different ideas. No we are not still evolving.
Theres the "therory" of evolution made popular by darwyn n theres environmental etc evolution..,evolution" in itself means..changing and evolving..mankind is NOT the same as when first created..and due to our current food etc..weather..eyc of COURSE man is still adapting to his environment..do you think men of today will even be the same in 100 yrs from now? Basic history..lol
 

T_Laurich

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Why can't you answer this question?
With evolving do you mean we are gaining information in DNA or do you mean that DNA is selecting certain traits.
Seriously, it's a simple question, which one...
 

Jewel5712

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Actually, bible says that spiritual beings were first.

Regarding life on our planet, sea life was first according to Genesis 1.

Which is what the evolution theory says, too. Life evolved in waters first.
You said creature" thats why i said birds..i also gave scripture that birds n fish were created on the same day..if you wouldve asked first living "entity" it was God like i have stated before as well..so why do i have to keep repeating myself with you?
 

trofimus

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You said creature" thats why i said birds..i also gave scripture that birds n fish were created on the same day..if you wouldve asked first living "entity" it was God like i have stated before as well..so why do i have to keep repeating myself with you?
I think you think I am not who I am :)
 

trofimus

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Why can't you answer this question?
With evolving do you mean we are gaining information in DNA or do you mean that DNA is selecting certain traits.
Seriously, it's a simple question, which one...
DNA is an interesting thing, because its both language and code in that language, therefore your question doest not make sense.
 
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Ice cores do not rely on radiometric dating. The layers are distinct patterns of winter, spring, summer, and fall. They are counted by layers.
All based on wrong assumptions about the earth.
 

T_Laurich

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It does make sense, but I am done playing these games, these conversations will go no where...
Aight guys, have a good time.
 
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Theres the "therory" of evolution made popular by darwyn n theres environmental etc evolution..,evolution" in itself means..changing and evolving..mankind is NOT the same as when first created..and due to our current food etc..weather..eyc of COURSE man is still adapting to his environment..do you think men of today will even be the same in 100 yrs from now? Basic history..lol
Do you understand what it means to evolve?

How has man evolved, that is his actual biology, physiology and neurology become more complex. Tell me how has his heart, kidney function, eye function, ear function etc., etc., evolved ?
 

Endoscopy

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Thats totally irrelevant.
It changes everything because of the assertion it was symboli
Evolution is a name for the process that makes living organisms to change in time. Like gravity is a name for you falling down. Everything what moves is changing all the time, both living and non-living things.

God designed all processes and nature laws, because He created the universe.

You can have a problem with neo-darwinism, blind random evolution propagated by some people, but thats not the only view of evolution.
Evolution concepts fails the scientific discoveries of the God created n
I believe that humans evolved from a more primative appearance..not apes but hairy men..if man was made in Gods image i hate to think if God as an ape..but i think through environmental changes that man had to go through he had to adapt n because of that..so did his looks...animals as well..

I merely asked the other member if he believed it was possible for God to lie, while you claim to know the attributes of God but are you really telling the truth? I believe you think you know the attributes of God however seeing that it is written that Jesus said, "... with God all things are possible." the who is really trying to make God into a liar?

[See Matt 19:26]



Are you referring the passage in Ezekiel 14:9 wherein it is written "And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet,..."



So any lie is a sin? So if you are claiming that I am trying to make God a liar then would that be a lie if there was no truth in the words you said?



Have you considered the possibility that it is trouble is in your mindset?
My mindset is from the reading of the Bible especially Genesis
Probably this one:

Your question is, I guess, about the place in Romans about death, its in 8:02 in the video.


I reject many of the assertions made in this video. I believe Dr. Eli Lizorkin-Eyzenberg a Messianic Jew who is an expert on Biblical languages and Biblical history. Google him. He states that the begining of Genesis is a narrative not symbolic poetry. There is also a relationship between day one and four, day two and five, and day three and six. The foolish discussion of the word Yom and the different meanings also fits our word for it. Day has all of those same meanings. Context always indicates that defination. In the day of King James for example. This video has several problems.
 
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For 1000's of years the story was taken as literal. But with modern knowledge, it seems that it is not literal.

If you say that the story is literal, investigation shows that it cannot be correct.

But if you understand the symbolism correctly, then it is true.

Being symbolic doesn't make it false, only that the literal interpretation is false.

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In the news today, worlds oldest ice core drilling dates back 2.7 million years.

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Apparently not.......ice are not so accurate.

Carlson says. “That, to us, means the source of precipitation has changed in Greenland across the last deglatiation. And therefore that the strict interpretation of this iconic record as purely temperature of snowfall above this ice sheet is wrong.”

https://www.astrobio.net/climate/ice-cores-may-not-be-accurate-thermometers/