dead and raised back to life

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Noose

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CS1 said:
Ok but remember you were discrediting this because of a "holy cow " response .
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It is something i will discredit with or without that statement all day and even in the future to those that are yet to be testified. I have given 1001 reasons already.

"..blessed are those that die in the Lord from now on, for they shall rest..." SAYS GOD.
But for some reason you want to believe that this statement is not true.
 
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Noose said:
It is something i will discredit with or without that statement all day and even in the future to those that are yet to be testified. I have given 1001 reasons already.

"..blessed are those that die in the Lord from now on, for they shall rest..." SAYS GOD.
But for some reason you want to believe that this statement is not true.
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no I just chose not to believe you
 
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Noose

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CS1 said:
no I just chose not to believe you
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I don't want you to believe me, i'm asking you, is this statement true:

Rev 14:13 Then I heard a voice from heaven say, “Write this: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.”

“Yes,” says the Spirit, “they will rest from their labor, for their deeds will follow them.”

You seem to believe that being brought back to life is a blessing and gives glory to God but God says the opposite.
 
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Noose said:
I don't want you to believe me, i'm asking you, is this statement true:

Rev 14:13 Then I heard a voice from heaven say, “Write this: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.”

“Yes,” says the Spirit, “they will rest from their labor, for their deeds will follow them.”

You seem to believe that being brought back to life is a blessing and gives glory to God but God says the opposite.
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we are done you and I thank you
 
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garee

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Noose said:
Yes. I was looking for more information about this guy and i found out that he confessed not to know anything. When he regained consciousness, he was told he was out for 5 days- implying that he was actually not dead.
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Yes to be truly dead or dead asleep is for a new creature when lifted up they would receive the promised new incorruptible bodies different than these bodies of death. Everything else is another kind of gift temporal in nature in respect to the flesh called resuscitation. Not reincarnation. We have the privilege to pray for that kind of temporal gift.

Four day Lazarus in that parable had nothing to qualify he could hear the voice of resurrection.... wake up or rise. It is a picture of the second and final resurrection .
 
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Lillywolf

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Noose said:
If Jesus said you will do all that and more, why aren't you personally doing it?
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I know who I am.
You should ask yourself the question. Rather than post here to revoke the spirit of the answer.
 
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Noose said:
I can't believe people are so vulnerable to lies, just from the structure of this testimony, i detect lies but also blasphemy:

1. A testimony to glorify God would not have a blasphemous statement "..holy cow...". God forbid. Even after hours of editing the video and filtering it, that part still remained. I don't blame the family for that but still i'm lost for words. No, it can't be for God

2. What is the most important thing that people would like to know- is it what the people that remained on earth recounting what they witnessed as the events unfold or the one that actually died to recount what happens on the other side? well guess what, the dead guy just stayed there laughing and posing for the camera and my guess is, people will be shocked when he opens his mouth.

These things are not new and this is not the last, just a series of lies.
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You do not deceive this member of the elect. In fact, it may be that I'm new but there none the less is a impossible to miss distinct similarity in the tenor of mockery, contempt, and failed self-righteous posturing displayed by yourself and at least two others in this same Bible Discussion Forum.

God see's the heart. You may wish to remember that. Because one day you shall die and answer to him for every single word you said and typed in order to pursue a hobby and leave the comforts of your bridge.
 
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Noose

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Lillywolf said:
You do not deceive this member of the elect. In fact, it may be that I'm new but there none the less is a impossible to miss distinct similarity in the tenor of mockery, contempt, and failed self-righteous posturing displayed by yourself and at least two others in this same Bible Discussion Forum.

God see's the heart. You may wish to remember that. Because one day you shall die and answer to him for every single word you said and typed in order to pursue a hobby and leave the comforts of your bridge.
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I have not done anything wrong. I'm just doubting that the man died like dead dead, reaaaally dead and his soul went to sheol and i have every reason to doubt because the man himself doesn't say anything. He only says he didn't know anything until his senses came back 5 days later. So?!
 
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Lillywolf

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Noose said:
I have not done anything wrong. I'm just doubting that the man died like dead dead, reaaaally dead and his soul went to sheol and i have every reason to doubt because the man himself doesn't say anything. He only says he didn't know anything until his senses came back 5 days later. So?!
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So?
Now we know you are going into screed mode because all you've done is read the thread title itself.
Everyone here who has watched the videos available knows by your comments that you never have.
 
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Noose

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Lillywolf said:
So?
Now we know you are going into screed mode because all you've done is read the thread title itself.
Everyone here who has watched the videos available knows by your comments that you never have.
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Never have what?

My position is clear, this claim and the ones before it and the ones in the future about people being brought back to life are all fake. Whether the players know it or not. Maybe you'll get to understand one day.
 
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Lillywolf said:
You do not deceive this member of the elect. In fact, it may be that I'm new but there none the less is a impossible to miss distinct similarity in the tenor of mockery, contempt, and failed self-righteous posturing displayed by yourself and at least two others in this same Bible Discussion Forum.

God see's the heart. You may wish to remember that. Because one day you shall die and answer to him for every single word you said and typed in order to pursue a hobby and leave the comforts of your bridge.
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So do you include yourself in that same judgment for your judging other members for their "tenor of mockery, contempt of self-righteous postering'? Do you think hypocrites would? Just because something is claimed doesn't make it true, yet if one believed all things then they would conclude that it was just as possible that it wasn't true as it was true, and by faith one would at least attempt to have find out as much as they could before claiming it was or wasn't true. So what is the substance of your faith that the LORD intervened?

Then again is your faith so weak that your own personal testimony lacks any evidence of the LORD's ability to heal that you need to grasp on to something that could be mockery disguised as an divine act? So if the LORD brought this man back to life then why did he need a pacemaker and/or defrillitor seeing that some of the articles say he got one and not the other while others say he got both? Faith is believing all things are possible until you have some substance to based your belief upon, it is not believing what you want to believe just because you want to believe it.
 
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Zmouth said:
So do you include yourself in that same judgment for your judging other members for their "tenor of mockery, contempt of self-righteous postering'? Do you think hypocrites would? Just because something is claimed doesn't make it true, yet if one believed all things then they would conclude that it was just as possible that it wasn't true as it was true, and by faith one would at least attempt to have find out as much as they could before claiming it was or wasn't true. So what is the substance of your faith that the LORD intervened?

Then again is your faith so weak that your own personal testimony lacks any evidence of the LORD's ability to heal that you need to grasp on to something that could be mockery disguised as an divine act? So if the LORD brought this man back to life then why did he need a pacemaker and/or defrillitor seeing that some of the articles say he got one and not the other while others say he got both? Faith is believing all things are possible until you have some substance to based your belief upon, it is not believing what you want to believe just because you want to believe it.
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your untrue attacks on others here show much. Time for you to go .
 
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Lillywolf said:
You do not deceive this member of the elect. In fact, it may be that I'm new but there none the less is a impossible to miss distinct similarity in the tenor of mockery, contempt, and failed self-righteous posturing displayed by yourself and at least two others in this same Bible Discussion Forum.

God see's the heart. You may wish to remember that. Because one day you shall die and answer to him for every single word you said and typed in order to pursue a hobby and leave the comforts of your bridge.
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I like your vocabulary
 
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Lillywolf

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Zmouth said:
So do you include yourself in that same judgment for your judging other members for their "tenor of mockery, contempt of self-righteous postering'? Do you think hypocrites would? Just because something is claimed doesn't make it true, yet if one believed all things then they would conclude that it was just as possible that it wasn't true as it was true, and by faith one would at least attempt to have find out as much as they could before claiming it was or wasn't true. So what is the substance of your faith that the LORD intervened?

Then again is your faith so weak that your own personal testimony lacks any evidence of the LORD's ability to heal that you need to grasp on to something that could be mockery disguised as an divine act? So if the LORD brought this man back to life then why did he need a pacemaker and/or defrillitor seeing that some of the articles say he got one and not the other while others say he got both? Faith is believing all things are possible until you have some substance to based your belief upon, it is not believing what you want to believe just because you want to believe it.
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One of two?
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Welll since prety much the only responses in tis thread are an attack of my grammar and how I have been banned from so many chatrooms.. And there is very little reaction to the actual video. I will take my leave, and do as was mentioned by another mod in another thread. And leave it, hoping it will die.

Would still love it if someone reposted this video in another thread,without the “I told you so” attitude, so we people can actually feel free to discuss what actually happened. But I hold little hope

Good day all
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eternally-gratefull said:
Really. Mind showing these comments? I know I have said them to a few people. Yet I do not just say it to say it. I say it to people who continually prove by their accusations they have not understood what myself or others believe.

And I back it up by showing how they have done so. I am not just outright saying it.
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Well then? Let's "clear the air" here. Tell me! Forget about everyone else! Tell me what you believe then. and, just cease from forcing everyone into playing your guessing games, eh?

By their "fruit/s", you shall know them. Tell me where I error in interpreting, or misinterpreting your fruit.

You seem to enjoy immensely, your always correcting people's readings of your "meanings, or intentions?"

So, when they respond to you? They aren't actually trying to UNDERSTAND, are they? No! They are NOW"accusing" you!

So PLEASE sir! Tell me what you believe! Tell me, I'm not to "judge" your fruit, and take everything you say as "gospel!" And, let's stop playing "ring-a-round-the-rosie", eh? :)
 
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