remarriage after divorce.

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Jewel5712

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nope. the context of that verse is when one partner of the marriage union is an unbeliever. this is in reference to a married person being saved and their spouse remaining in unbelief.

1 Corinthians 7:12-16
12 To the rest I say (I, not the Lord) that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he should not divorce her. 13 If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is made holy because of his wife, and the unbelieving wife is made holy because of her husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy. 15 But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you[b] to peace. 16 For how do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?
Look at verse 15...
 
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I USED to think this..n thought..how UNFAIR to people whos spouses have cheated and walked away from the marriage..then the one left behind not only has to live with the feelings of being betrayed and rejected BUT they cant ever marry again til thier cheater spouse dies? I was 25 with 2 babies when my husband left the state with another woman without turning back..a LONG lonely lifetime of being single since hes still alive (although re married) ..the covenant of marriage became "official" with CONSUMATING the marriage..so if one of the spouses consumates with another tgey have definately broken the covenant of marriage in Gods eyes ...NOT sayimg there still cant be healing and reconcilliation in a marriage after an afair but God releases a person from a cheating spouse..theres many ways to "die" other than literally when it talks bout tgat regarding marriage and divoorce..DEFINATELY wasnt Gods original plan for marriage but then again..when has MAN EVER stuck to Gods original plan :/
where does the bible say that God releases a person from a cheating spouse? On the contrary the bible says that God joins two people in holy matrimony and the idea is for it to be permanent.

The bible is pretty clear on this issue. To try and appeal to man's sinful nature or do some mental acrobatics with what death is, is not an honest exegesis of the Scripture.
 
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#43
Look at verse 15...
the context is when one partner is an unbeliever and THEY terminate the marriage because they don't want to be married to a Christian
 

Jewel5712

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where does the bible say that God releases a person from a cheating spouse? On the contrary the bible says that God joins two people in holy matrimony and the idea is for it to be permanent.

The bible is pretty clear on this issue. To try and appeal to man's sinful nature or do some mental acrobatics with what death is, is not an honest exegesis of the Scripture.
Because of the hardening of people hearts..

"He said to them, ‘Because of your hardness of heart Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so’” (v. 8). "..

- Matthew 19:1–8

And yes your verses on the saved n unsaved spouse are correct but for 2 saved people

Sorry the following excerpt is so long but i thought it applied..

Though He has made a few excursions into Gentile areas (Matt. 8:28–34; 15:21–39), Jesus’ roughly three years of public ministry have thus far been confined mostly to the region of Galilee (4:12–25; 9:1–7; 10:5–42; 17:24–27). But we see now that He has left Galilee for Judea (19:1–2), the place where His time among His disciples will conclude with His death, resurrection, and ascension.

Upon arriving in Judea, Jesus meets some Pharisees who, as we have come to expect (12:1–14; 15:1–20), seek to test Him once more. Now the issue is divorce, and the Pharisees’ question (19:3) is rooted in the controversy over marriage in their day. First-century Jews interpreted Deuteronomy 24:1–4, which allows for divorce on the grounds of “indecency,” in two major ways. Rabbi Hillel and his students understood “indecency” liberally, allowing a husband to divorce his wife for anything not up to snuff, even the quality of her cooking. More conservative were Rabbi Shammai and his disciples. They generally read the divorce-permitting ground of “indecency” as lewd sexual behavior. Even so, Shammai allowed those who divorced for other reasons to remarry. For reasons of their own, the Pharisees want to know whose view Jesus prefers.

However, the starting point for a marriage discussion cannot be the argument as to what constitutes lawful grounds for divorce. As Christ teaches, we must look first to God’s original intent for marriage: a lifelong bond between one man and one woman (Matt. 19:4–6; see Gen. 2:24). The rabbinic debate was concerned primarily with how one may exit the marriage covenant. Both schools agreed that the old covenant law made a provision for divorce. Yet they differed as to what the provisions were. Divorce is permitted due to the fall, something the Father graciously allows in cases when sin has grievously shattered the union of husband and wife (v. 8). God permits divorce in select circumstances to help us endure some effects of sin and the broken relationships it produces. Had evil not entered the world, there would be no broken relationships, and hence, no divorce.



Coram Deo
John Calvin says that God “did not lay down a law about divorces, so as to give them the seal of his approbation, but as the wickedness of men could not be restrained in any other way, he applied what was the most admissible remedy.” Many of God’s laws are concessions to contain the effects of sin, and we should be grateful that in His grace the Lord seeks to mitigate the damaging power of evil. May our deeds be pure so that their effects never need to be contained."
Passages for Further Study

Ezra 9–10
Proverbs 18:22; 19:14
Malachi 2:10–16
Mark 10:1–9
 
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#45
Look at verse 15...
the wider context is referring to a married person being saved after the marriage has been consumated and the other partner does not convert
 

Jewel5712

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the context is when one partner is an unbeliever and THEY terminate the marriage because they don't want to be married to a Christian
Was that part of the OPs original situation? I havent read it recently...
 
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Was that part of the OPs original situation? I havent read it recently...
i was commenting on the handful of posts that you made where you cited 1 Corinthians 7:15 and said that if a person cheats on their spouse, the marriage covenant is broken and they are free to remarry.

I was pointing out that you were taking that verse out of context and your position contradicts other parts of the Word of God.
 

Tommy379

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What if your Christian spouse leaves you, and marries someone else. Is the spouse left behind to walk off into the horizon alone?
 

Jewel5712

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i was commenting on the handful of posts that you made where you cited 1 Corinthians 7:15 and said that if a person cheats on their spouse, the marriage covenant is broken and they are free to remarry.

I was pointing out that you were taking that verse out of context and your position contradicts other parts of the Word of God.
I didnt QUOTE scripture ORIGINALLY nore did i CLAIM to...its was my original understanding..however i DID quote scripture in my LAST post that backs up that my contexts is biblically sound ;)
 

Jewel5712

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What if your Christian spouse leaves you, and marries someone else. Is the spouse left behind to walk off into the horizon alone?
According to selfdesolving..left behind..oh well youre screwed n have to remain celebate til they die or reconcile..
 

Jewel5712

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What if your Christian spouse leaves you, and marries someone else. Is the spouse left behind to walk off into the horizon alone?
Look at post #42
 
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According to selfdesolving..left behind..oh well youre screwed n have to remain celebate til they die or reconcile..
That's the biblical doctrine.
 

Oncefallen

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where does the bible say that God releases a person from a cheating spouse? On the contrary the bible says that God joins two people in holy matrimony and the idea is for it to be permanent.

The bible is pretty clear on this issue. To try and appeal to man's sinful nature or do some mental acrobatics with what death is, is not an honest exegesis of the Scripture.

From the mouth of Christ


Matt 19:9

And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”

He clearly says that a man who divorces and remarries commits adultery UNLESS he divorced due to his spouse.
 
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From the mouth of Christ

Matt 19:9

And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”

He clearly says that a man who divorces and remarries commits adultery UNLESS he divorced due to his spouse.
Christ consents to the divorce on the grounds of adultery, but the will of God is for the marriage to remain permanent. The way that the statement was framed in the post in question, was that God himself dissolves the marriage as a way to release a person from a cheating spouse.
 

Jewel5712

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From the mouth of Christ

Matt 19:9

And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”

He clearly says that a man who divorces and remarries commits adultery UNLESS he divorced due to his spouse.
Tganks once! Hadnt thought of that one!
 
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And so is mine...

Btw..have you been married before?
if your doctrine is that a person can remarry after their spouse cheats on them because they have broken the marriage covenant, then no your doctrine is not biblical.
 

Jewel5712

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if your doctrine is that a person can remarry after their spouse cheats on them because they have broken the marriage covenant, then no your doctrine is not biblical.
I dont think youve CLEARLY read not only the scripture i posted but Oncefallen as well

You DO fail to answer the question if youve been married before..
 
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it's one thing to know the truth of what the Scripture says and grieve for our weakness and lack of obedience to it, it's another thing to try and interpret our way around a clear biblical precept to retain a sense of justification before God.
 

Jewel5712

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@selfdissolving

It USED to be that making a covenant under God included sheddimg of blood (often a sacrifice) and changing of names (as God gave) ..same with a marriage covenant..there was blood shed by a virgin bride and her name chamged (took on her husbands last name as he was now the spiritual leader over her)..of course..in TODAYS society..theres not a lot of virgin brides and a lot of hardening hearts..

AND to go a step further..as the plan of salvation includes the "being washed and made clean" by Jesus (the sacrifice) blood AND we are given NEW names.."CHRISTians"