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Rosemaryx

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I believe Jewel is a light on the hill...xox...:)...You are very uplifting sister...xox...
 

VCO

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That is so so sad...Ii am 57 and my Mother died when I was two , we never know when we will be taken...xox...
Oh boy, I pray to my God that things can change in the future. I have been so impressed lately by John 17 and the prayer the Savior gave...”that they all may be one.” I don’t have the answers of how, but I believe He knows and He will get us all there if we are willing to listen. You are no better than I and I am no better than you. We sin differently, that’s for sure. How are we ever going to be one if we cannot see the similarities and seek understanding? As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, I am considered by 75% of this world as Christian. Of the 25% of Christians on this planet, there is a large percentage of those who will not accept me as a Christian because of misunderstanding. We are all ready out numbered 3 to 1! How are we going to win the battles coming if we do not become one? I feel it has to do with facing fear with faith. I see a lot of good in what you have shared with me. . . .

No You are TOTALLY MISTAKEN, You do not belong to nothing other than a Psuedo-Christian Church.

You have DIFFERENT MEANINGS FOR ALMOST EVERY Christian Terms the we HAVE.
. . . Our MEANINGS are the Almost the Same for those Terms throughout almost the rest of the Churches. Any genuine Christian that needs a Copy of the Terminology Difference between the Mormon Church, and all other Christian Churches, I will provide them a Copy, IF YOU ASK.

You claim almost 75% of the Christian World, think the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are Christians.
. . . You are totally deceived or possibly just lying, thinking the End Justifies the means. NO MAINLINE DENOMINATION THINKS OF THE MORMON CHURCH AS ANYTHING BUT A PSUEDO-CHRISTIAN CULT.
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You believe in MULTIPLE GODS, and in fact you believe you will one day become a god.
. . . . Genuine Christian believe in ONLY ONE GOD, and HE is made of the personages the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.

You teach that the Mormon Jesus is a Brother of Lucifier.
. . . The Genuine Christian Church teach that JESUS is the CREATOR of Lucifer, and EVERYTHING THAT IS VISIBLE AND INVISIBLE.

You teach that the Mormon Jesus is a lessor god than the Father.
. . . Genuine Christian Churches teach that JESUS and the FATHER and the Holy Spirit, are the SAME DEITY.


NO YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN, and You teach a Different JESUS, a Different FATHER, and a Different Holy Spirit than Genuine Christian Churches TEACH and BELIEVE IN.
 

Rosemaryx

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No You are TOTALLY MISTAKEN, You do not belong to nothing other than a Psuedo-Christian Church.

You have DIFFERENT MEANINGS FOR ALMOST EVERY Christian Terms the we HAVE.
. . . Our MEANINGS are the Almost the Same for those Terms throughout almost the rest of the Churches. Any genuine Christian that needs a Copy of the Terminology Difference between the Mormon Church, and all other Christian Churches, I will provide them a Copy, IF YOU ASK.

You claim almost 75% of the Christian World, think the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are Christians.
. . . You are totally deceived or possibly just lying, thinking the End Justifies the means. NO MAINLINE DENOMINATION THINKS OF THE MORMON CHURCH AS ANYTHING BUT A PSUEDO-CHRISTIAN CULT.
. . .
You believe in MULTIPLE GODS, and in fact you believe you will one day become a god.
. . . . Genuine Christian believe in ONLY ONE GOD, and HE is made of the personages the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.

You teach that the Mormon Jesus is a Brother of Lucifier.
. . . The Genuine Christian Church teach that JESUS is the CREATOR of Lucifer, and EVERYTHING THAT IS VISIBLE AND INVISIBLE.

You teach that the Mormon Jesus is a lessor god than the Father.
. . . Genuine Christian Churches teach that JESUS and the FATHER and the Holy Spirit, are the SAME DEITY.


NO YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN, and You teach a Different JESUS, a Different FATHER, and a Different Holy Spirit than Genuine Christian Churches TEACH and BELIEVE IN.
What has this to do with my post /...xox...
 

VCO

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That is the truth...If I sat in front of a very young believer and they claimed they will not eat shellfish , then I must abstain from eating shellfish in front of them , i must not make them stumble , the same as if I was sitting opposite an alcoholic , I would not buy an alcoholic drink for I would be tempting them...xox...
I heard the Lady that wrote that book on the God diets that included not shellfish, was CAUGHT in a restaurant eating shrimp just a few years after that book was published.
 

Jewel5712

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I heard the Lady that wrote that book on the God diets that included not shellfish, was CAUGHT in a restaurant eating shrimp just a few years after that book was published.
So without going to research..WHY couldnt they eat shellfish..what was the thinking behind it?
 

Rosemaryx

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I heard the Lady that wrote that book on the God diets that included not shellfish, was CAUGHT in a restaurant eating shrimp just a few years after that book was published.
Shame on her...xox...
 

VCO

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What has this to do with my post /...xox...
HOW DID IT GET YOUR NAME ON IT. I was posting to Lovingothers. VERY STRANGE. I went back and it added YOUR NAME and Post the too. Here is what it looks like:

Rosemaryx said:
That is so so sad...
Lovingothers said:

Then it has his post below his name.

Very Strange in DEED.
 

VCO

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You never replied to my PM, what did you mean if I was really saved this time?
I believe EVERY Christian should be a FRUIT INSPECTOR, and I have to watch you for a long time, to see what kind of Fruit you will have in the harvest.

Matthew 7:20 (HCSB)
20 So you’ll recognize them by their fruit.


WHAT PM ? ? ?

You have realize, I AM 69 years of age, so I DO NOT Read every single post, not only because of my age, but also that I am very slow reader. SORRY, but that is the way it is, when you get to be my age.
 

calibob

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I believe EVERY Christian should be a FRUIT INSPECTOR, and I have to watch you for a long time, to see what kind of Fruit you will have in the harvest.

Matthew 7:20 (HCSB)
20 So you’ll recognize them by their fruit.


WHAT PM ? ? ?

You have realize, I AM 69 years of age, so I DO NOT Read every single post, not only because of my age, but also that I am very slow reader. SORRY, but that is the way it is, when you get to be my age.
Well I'm not far behind, I'm 64
 

VCO

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Well I'm not far behind, I'm 64

Okay, it is FAIR for me to warn you, IT GETS WORSE AS YOU GET OLDER. :cautious:

I had a Stroke Last Fall, and it left my mind a mental cripple, for Two Weeks my Sister came to stay with me. I had a lost all my computer skills, and about a week later, I was VERY SLOWLY getting a tiny bit back. I asked all those hear to pray for me and had three Churches praying for me. But about the Time my Sister had to go home, I was getting little of it back, but I really was still thinking is this all the better it will get. I was approved for Driving, and my sense of direction was still good. So about 3 weeks my computer skills came back to where I could function. And by 4 weeks, most of my member came back. Yes it was Scary. I would say about 4 weeks and on, about 95 percent of my mention capacities were almost normal, but my Spelling on certain words just went bye, bye. So when I am typing when at word refuses to pull up in my head and I cannot get the word CLOSE ENOUGH for my spellchecker to correct it. I just think of a different word that I can spell. I had most of my passwords wrote down, so no problem. But I still have couple of computer games that I cannot play, because my memory cannot remember the Password.
 
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Well....410 PM Sunday in Au and O am bored....most of my CC friends are sleeping...but, one thing for sure....those who have been saved by grace through faith are still eternally secure in Christ.....no works attached ro gain, keep, embellish or top off salvation which is a past completed possession with present continuing results!
 
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Well....410 PM Sunday in Au and O am bored....most of my CC friends are sleeping...but, one thing for sure....those who have been saved by grace through faith are still eternally secure in Christ.....no works attached ro gain, keep, embellish or top off salvation which is a past completed possession with present continuing results!
Sleeping soundly in arms of Jesus! I do remember a time when not knowing my fate would keep me up at night, but . . .

"Except the LORD build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the LORD keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain. It is vain for you to rise up early, to sit up late, to eat the bread of sorrows: for so he giveth his beloved sleep" (Psalms 127:1-2).
 

Jewel5712

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I completely agree with you. Isn’t it amazing that God has a plan to make it all fair! That is one reason He has baptisms for the dead. Jesus taught in John 3:5 it is essential for salvation, but there are many who never heard of Christ while alive. Progression does not stop after life, but will end for many at the judgement day. Thus, there are many who were ignorant that will have every opportunity to accept Him and follow His commandments: including baptism. Peter 4:16 is interesting on that subject.
Baptisms for the dead? Never heard of it..
 

mailmandan

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Okay, it is FAIR for me to warn you, IT GETS WORSE AS YOU GET OLDER. :cautious:
According to a friend of mine and my brother in law, after you turn 60 you have to pee all the time, like a pregnant woman. I hope that's not true and they are both the exception and not the rule of turning 60! :eek: I'm only 7 1/2 years away from 60.