Jennie-Mae: I agree. I dont think you can make anyone "turn gay or trans". It is not something these people ever wanted. They have been in the closet for a long time and now that they are out, people are scared. They do struggle and it takes alot of compassion to see that. Many people are just afraid ... afraid of what they do not understand. Some of you will be the parent/s of a gay or even a transgendered child.
This picture as a reminder to all of us about what Jesus commanded we do:
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I don't think anyone can claim anything about all homosexuals or trans and their condition. As if a blanket observation covers the whole bunch.
People who are weak in their resolve will always claim those who are not are just afraid of ....name the sinner.
Homophobic. Afraid of gays. What a stupid term.
Homoempathic would be more apt. Empathetic with the fact, and as a Christian, that unrepentant homosexuals are going to die damned for eternity. Oh, sorry, empathy is occult and that's baaaaad. Yep, that's how twisted the world has become people.
But defend homosexuals and condemn Christians, well that's just PC.
No, that's Christo-Phobic.
Fear of the Christian teachings that call a sinner, any sinner, a sinner.
I went to school with a lesbian. She was a beautiful girl and very athletic in the sports arenas there. One day in a girls club meeting, not the official girls club but one certain of us had formed after school, as we were sharing about ourselves to our sisters, this girl shared very intimate details of her growing up.
She was raped at a young age by her brother, who was just two years older. When she grew a little older she was raped by her step father. And her brother yet again later. Her mother slapped her the first time she told of the violation. And threatened her if she "lied" again.
Other very horrible things had happened to this girl in her formative years. For this reason she said she decided to be lesbian. Because aside from her mother's denial and that one slap, which she never wanted to experience again and so stayed mum when she was violated later, no female had ever brought her harm.
It was her choice.
Years ago the actor Cynthia Nixon, who was on the HBO program Sex and the City, gained a lot of scorn from the community that demands tolerance but rarely displays any, when she stated publicly on a daytime talk show that she had decided to become a lesbian. It was a choice, she said.
Today she is married to a woman.
Liberal Christianity is growing sadly in concert with the permissive secular fallen world that makes news most every day. There are apostate churches, not qualified to be called church nor member of the denomination they formerly vested in, that allow homosexuals and transgender, sexually active, to marry, or enter into offices in that church. Even serving in clergy while married to the same sex.
There comes a time when a Christian has to have the courage to recognize Christ himself told us to render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's. His command wasn't solely about the money he held up as example. It was about allegiances.
I read people here who chastise those of us who stand with Christ and hold to scripture. Their self-righteousness is present as they condemn conservative Christianity and defend the liberal. The Bible no longer says what it says about immoral sexual sins. Which, as the Christian knows applies to the heterosexuals as well. We're suppose to all come together and love the unrepentant sinner and their sin.
We don't know what makes the homosexual and the trans that way, yes, we do, but we should love them and accept them because poor them have had it rough. They're coming out of the closet. You know, like the Indians are now strong enough to do. Because a person born of native blood is comparable to an immoral sinner homosexual or transsexual since the conundrum that spoke about their condition first claimed we don't know why they are what they are but.... And then makes a relative comparison of that community with people who are born with native blood!
The excuse to uphold sin and condemn righteousness is sickening.
There's even a former satanist who claims to have found Christ as they defend homosexual and trans immorality. While laying curses on a Christian that stands with the Bible.
Thank God for that in print in public.
Because it tells the community of Christ not only are the prophecies coming true. As in, that which is evil will be called good. And that which is good shall be called evil. But the examples of those disciples are right here as members on this site.
It is dishonest for anyone in this thread to say there is no compassion for the homosexual or transsexual. Those communities aren't special. The Christian has compassion for all who are dead in their sins.
What the Christian is not commanded to do is to defend those who are dying there while chastising those who say that particular community of sinners, as is the topic of this thread, should not be tolerated to the point they're are let to remain so without someone having the guts to say not only are the trans and homosexual sinners, but they'll be damned forever if they live and die as such as they were tolerated and defended by some, all the way to the grave.
Those who think to defend a homosexual and a trans being what they are should spend half as much time prosletyzing to those same people. But really, you can't. You can't defend their present right to be dead in their sins when speaking to Christians who know they need be redeemed, and then try to tell those sinners you defend as having the need for compassion as they remain in their sins that they're sinners. That's double speak.
Very obvious shame on a written text forum. A hypocritical shame were such a one to then off-line try to tell a homosexual or trans they need Jesus.
But thank you for the example of prophecy in effect. It serves God's church to watch scriptures come true.
