Sabbath

[posthuman]

Has the Priesthood changed? Yes, I believe it has. There was a Priesthood in which we must find a Levite Priest for the atonement of sins. As far as I know, this is no longer the case.

thus proving exactly what i was saying.

Appoint Aaron and his sons to serve as priests; ​

anyone else who approaches the sanctuary is to be put to death. ​

(Numbers 3:10)​

how is it possible that this may be in any wise no longer the binding commandment of God, without the removal of a single jot or tittle?


if we may find a single jot or a single tittle that is not 100% binding on the believer, who has died with Christ, who is complete in Him, whose sinful nature has been subjected to circumcision by the very hand of God, who was raised with Him, who was dead but was made alive by His work, who has been forgiven of all sins - if there is even one single thing in the Law that does not apply to such a person, then there is an inescapable thing we have to deal with.
by saying 'well only the laws of priesthood are blotted out' what is it you are saying about those jots and tittles?
by agreeing that 'only the priesthood and the sacrifices written in the Law are no longer' what do you suppose happened to the jots and tittles that make up the words of the Law that specified them? they are either wiped away, dude, or by some other cause they are to the believer as though they do not exist, if they do not apply.

now how could that have happened?? ((†))

ain't it ironic that you can say the very same thing i say, thinking yourself a teacher, but calling me a liar and a hater of God for saying it? i dunno dude personally i think that ought to bother you. but maybe you don't mind the duplicity?? i'll give you benefit of doubt; i'll assume you just don't know what you're doing and really don't understand what i say. perhaps you simply can't.

 

[Shamah]

Sounds like we agree then that the Covenant in Psalm 105 it's not the same as the Covenant in Jeremiah 31.

SOunds like you just made that up, because I said the oppisite, and have told you oppisite than that for months now...

Psalms 105:6-10, “O seed of Aḇraham His servant, Children of Ya‛aqoḇ, His chosen ones! He is יהוה our Strength; His right-rulings are in all the earth. He has remembered His covenant forever, The Word He commanded, for a thousand generations, The covenant He made with Abraham, And His oath to Yitsḥaq, And established it to Ya‛aqoḇ for a law, To Yisra’yl – an everlasting covenant.”

Jeremiah 31:33, “For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Yisra’yl: After those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law (Torah/Instructions) in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and I will be their Strength, and they will be My people.”

 

[Shamah]

I was asking about Psalm 105, and you quoted Psalm 89? I'm not following why you did that.

OK Ill explain why:

see how the same ovenant made with Abraham is CONTINUED until Israyl:

Psalms 105:6-10, “O seed of Aḇraham His servant, Children of Ya‛aqoḇ, His chosen ones! He is יהוה our Strength; His right-rulings are in all the earth. He has remembered His covenant forever, The Word He commanded, for a thousand generations, The covenant He made with Aḇraham, And His oath to Yitsḥaq, And established it to Ya‛aqoḇ for a law, To Yisra’yl – an everlasting covenant.”

and we will add in Jer 31, showing this is the covenant made to Israyl also:

Jeremiah 31:33, “For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Yisra’yl: After those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law (Torah/Instructions) in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and I will be their Strength, and they will be My people.”

Look for Hebrews explains it, this Covenant IS THE ONE ratified in the blood of Messiah:

Hebrews 10:14-19,, “For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are being set apart. And the Set-apart Spirit also witnesses to us, for after having said before, This is the covenant that I shall make with them after those days, says יהוה, giving My laws into their hearts, and in their minds I shall write them, (Jer 31:33)” and, “Their sins and their lawlessness I shall remember no more. (Jer 31:34)” Now where there is forgiveness of these, there is no longer a slaughter offering for sin. So, brothers, having boldness to enter into the Set-apart Place by the blood of יהושע.”

Well... PS 89 shows "My mercy I will keep for Him forever and My covenant will stand fast with Him" and King David never ratified the Covenent... Messiah did just as Hebrews 10 explains Jer 31...

the bolded words taking about the Messiah:

Psalm 89:26-37, “He will call out to Me; ‘You are My Father, O YHWH! You are the Rock of My salvation!’ And I will make Him My firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth. My mercy I will keep for Him forever and My covenant will stand fast with Him. And I will establish His Seed forever, and His throne will be as the days of heaven. Should His children forsake My Law, and refuse to walk in My judgments; Should they profane My statutes, and fail to keep My commandments; Then I will punish their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with lashes from the whip. Nevertheless, My lovingkindness I will not utterly withdraw from Him, nor will I ever betray My faithfulness. My covenant I will not break, nor will I change what has gone out of My lips. Once for all, I have vowed by My holiness, I cannot lie, and I say to David; His Seed will endure forever, and His throne will endure before Me like the sun. His throne will be established forever like the moon: the faithful witness in the sky.”

 

[posthuman]

Did Messiah nail the Priesthood to the Cross? I hope not, if there is no Priest, there is no mediator between God and man?

• (a priesthood being nailed to the cross) → (there is no priest) is a false equivalence.
• you yourself confess, in the very same post i'm quoting, that the priesthood has been changed. the priesthood which is according to the Law is not the priesthood that God recognizes: Levi is the priest according to the Law.
  • therefore something profoundly significant has occurred with regard to the Law
    • we should probably be talking alot - almost exclusively - about exactly what that profound event is

 

[Shamah]

That's correct, that saying the prophets is not the same as saying prophecies. Because Jesus already fulfilled the prophets, he said that's what he came to do. But of course there are still many prophecies.

Note that the law and the prophets is treating other people like you want them to treat you. But clearly, that is not all of the prophecies.

So yes, difference between law and Prophets and prophecies. I Think Jesus completed his fulfilling of the law and the prophets when he came.

All the prophecies have not been fulfilled yet, the most repeated prophecy in the wntore word is about His second coming, He has not yet returned...

Luke 4:17-21, “And the scroll of the prophet Yeshayahu was handed to Him. And having unrolled the scroll, He found the place where it was written: “The Spirit of יהוה is upon Me, because He has anointed Me to bring the Good News to the poor. He has sent Me to heal the broken-hearted, to proclaim release to the captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to send away crushed ones with a release, to proclaim the acceptable year of יהוה.” (Isa 61:1-3) And having rolled up the scroll, He gave it back to the attendant and sat down. And the eyes of all in the congregation were fixed upon Him. And He began to say to them, “Today this Scripture has been filled in your hearing.”

Fulfilled already - To be fulfilled in the future

Isaiah 61:1-11, "61:1, “The Spirit of the Master יהוה is upon Me, because יהוה has anointed Me to bring good news to the meek. He has sent Me to bind up the broken-hearted, to proclaim release to the captives, and the opening of the prison to those who are bound,"61:2, "to proclaim the acceptable year of יהוה, and the day of vengeance of our Mighty One, to comfort all who mourn,"61:3, "to appoint unto those who mourn in Tsiyon: to give them embellishment for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness. And they shall be called trees of righteousness, a planting of יהוה, to be adorned."61:4, "And they shall rebuild the old ruins, raise up the former wastes. And they shall restore the ruined cities, the wastes of many generations."61:5, "And strangers shall stand and feed your flocks, and the sons of the foreigner be your plowmen and your vine dressers."61:6, "But you shall be called, ‘Priests of יהוה,’ ‘Servants of our Mighty One’ shall be said of you. You shall consume the strength of the nations, and boast in their esteem."61:7, "Instead of your shame and reproach, they rejoice a second time in their portion. Therefore they take possession a second time in their land, everlasting joy is theirs."61:8, "“For I, יהוה, love right-ruling; I hate robbery for ascending offering. And I shall give their reward in truth, and make an everlasting covenant with them."61:9, "“And their seed shall be known among the nations, and their offspring in the midst of the peoples. All who see them shall acknowledge them, that they are the seed יהוה has blessed.”"61:10, "I greatly rejoice in יהוה, my being exults in my Mighty One. For He has put garments of deliverance on me, He has covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decks himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorns herself with her jewels."61:11, "For as the earth brings forth its bud, as the garden causes the seed to shoot up, so the Master יהוה causes righteousness and praise to shoot up before all the nations!”

Isaiah 45:21-22, “Declare and bring near, let them even take counsel together. Who has announced this from of old? Who has declared it from that time? Is it not I, יהוה? And there is no mighty one besides Me, a righteous Power and Savior, there is none besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all you ends of the earth! For I am Strength, and there is none else.”

Isaiah 46:10, “Declaring the end from the beginning, and from of old that which has not yet been done, saying, ‘My counsel does stand, and all My delight I do.”

There are 2 "it is done" statements...

Fulfilled already
John 19:30, “So when יהושע took the sour wine He said, “It is done!” And bowing His head, He gave up His spirit.”

Fulfilled already:
1. Passover/First-fruits – Yahshua's Sacrifice(Passover), burial and resurrection (First Fruits – presenting Himself to YHWH)
2. Feast of Unleavened Bread – Removal of sin by Yahshua's perfect work as the Passover Sacrifice
3. Feast of Weeks – The blessing Holy Spirit of YHWH, coming into our lives stronger than ever

To be fulfilled in the future:
4. Feast of Trumpets – Yahshua's return and gathering of the Saints
5. Day of Atonement – Yahshua leads the army of YHWH to destroy evil rulers of this world and satan is chained for 1,000 years
6. Feast of Tabernacles – Yahshua dwells on earth for 1,000 years teaching truth and righteousness
7. The Last Great Day – satan is loosed and swiftly destroyed, the Kingdom of YHWH reigns forever

To be fulfilled in the future
Revelation 21:4-8, “And Yah shall wipe away every tear from their eyes, and there shall be no more death, nor mourning, nor crying. And there shall be no more pain, for the former matters have passed away. And He who was sitting on the throne said, “See, I make all matters new.” And He said to me, “Write, for these words are true and trustworthy. And He said to me, “It is done! I am the ‘Aleph’ and the ‘Taw’, the Beginning and the End. To the one who thirsts I shall give of the fountain of the water of life without payment. The one who overcomes shall inherit all this, and I shall be his Strength and he shall be My son. But as for the cowardly, and untrustworthy, and abominable, and murderers, and those who whore, and drug sorcerers, and idolaters, and all the false, their part is in the lake which burns with fire and sulphur, which is the second death.”

 

[Shamah]

You are isolating, bacause if you take that at face value you have a contradiction:

Mat 12:12, "And how much more valuable is a man than a sheep? Therefore, it is Lawful to do righteousness on the Sabbath."

Lawful does not mean profane. Yahshua was posing a uestiong to the prahisees from their own twisted logic.



The purpose of the Sabbath is to do YHWH will, doing His will in any form is not "breaking the Sabbath" it is the intent for one to cease from their own works Ex 20 and do Yah;s works Isa 56...

Now this can be used to do Yah;s will or as a cloak for evil... As Peter says let us not use our freedom for evil but lets be doulos to the Messiah...

It is lawful to do what is righteous on the Sabbath. Now does that mean that if you are doing a righteous Act, that whatever else you do is also lawful? Jesus said the priests break the Sabbath. Do you believe that he was simply parroting the Pharisees that he didn't actually think that the priest break the Sabbath? That would be an interesting way to interpret it.

LOL no one can;t do somethingrighteous then do evil and the evil is good, are you insane? It is corrupt pharisee style to apper right and use that apperance to do evil... YHWH sees and knows all, men can be fooled YHWH canot not be fooled...

 

[Shamah]

Absolutely! Do the will of God, which I would take to me walk in the spirit, and you don't have to worry about what Commandments are in the law, you are not under the law.

If one is truly walking in the SPirit they will do as the Law and Yahshua says, what I see in America is every church is "led by the spririt" but every one teaches something different and teaches a different set of acceptable morals..

How to test the sprits to see if they are of Yah? Read the word, if they match they are of Him if they do not they are not of Him...

Isaiah 59:21, “As for Me, this is My covenant with them,” said יהוה: “My Spirit that is upon you, and My Words that I have put in your mouth, shall not be withdrawn from your mouth, nor from the mouth of your descendants, nor from the mouth of your descendants’ descendants,” said יהוה, “from this time and forever.”

John 4:19-26, “The woman said to Him, “Master, I see that You are a prophet. Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, but you people say that in Yerushalayim is the place where one needs to worship. יהושע said to her, “Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you shall neither on this mountain, nor in Yerushalayim, worship the Father. You worship what you do not know. We worship what we know, because the deliverance is of the Yehuḏim. But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father also does seek such to worship Him. YHWH is Spirit, and those who worship Him need to worship in spirit and truth. The woman said to Him, “I know that Messiah is coming, the One who is called Anointed. When that One comes, He shall announce to us all. יהושע said to her, “I who am speaking to you am He.”







John 6:63, “It is the Spirit that gives life; the flesh is useless. The Words (Instructions) that I speak to you, they are Spirit, and they are life everlasting.”

 

[posthuman]

Romans 3:20
by the law is the knowledge of sin

Hebrews 8:12
I will remember their sins no more

the sting of death is sin ​

and the power of sin is the law​

(1 Corinthians 15:56)​

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having disarmed the powers and authorities ​

He made a public spectacle of them​

triumphing over them by the cross​

(Colossians 2:15)​

 

[Shamah]

Revelation 22:11-15, “He who does wrong, let him do more wrong; he who is filthy, let him be more filthy; he who is righteous, let him be more righteous; he who is set-apart, let him be more set-apart. And see, I am coming speedily, and My reward is with Me, to give to each according to his work. “I am the ‘Aleph’ and the ‘Taw’, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last. Blessed are those doing His commands, so that the authority shall be theirs unto the tree of life, and to enter through the gates into the city. But outside are the dogs and those who enchant with drugs, and those who whore, and the murderers, and the idolaters, and all who love and do falsehood.”

Hebrews 10:16, "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them.”

Psalm 119:44-45, "That I might guard Your Law continually, Forever and ever; That I might walk in liberty, For I have sought Your orders;"

James 1:22-25, “And become doers of the Word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. Because if anyone is a hearer of the Word and not a doer, he is like a man who looks at his natural face in a mirror, for he looks at himself, and goes away, and immediately forgets what he was like. But he that looked into the perfect Law of liberty, and continues in it, not becoming a hearer that forgets, but a doer of work, this one shall be blessed in his doing.”

James 2:8-12, “If you truly accomplish the sovereign Law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself, (Lev 19:18) you do well, but if you show partiality, you commit sin, being found guilty by the Law as transgressors. For whoever shall guard all the Law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” (Exo 20:14) also said, “Do not murder.” (Exo 20:13) Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of Law. So speak and so do as those who are to be judged by the Law of liberty.”

 

[Karraster]

thus proving exactly what i was saying.

Appoint Aaron and his sons to serve as priests; ​

anyone else who approaches the sanctuary is to be put to death. ​

(Numbers 3:10)​

how is it possible that this may be in any wise no longer the binding commandment of God, without the removal of a single jot or tittle?


if we may find a single jot or a single tittle that is not 100% binding on the believer, who has died with Christ, who is complete in Him, whose sinful nature has been subjected to circumcision by the very hand of God, who was raised with Him, who was dead but was made alive by His work, who has been forgiven of all sins - if there is even one single thing in the Law that does not apply to such a person, then there is an inescapable thing we have to deal with.
by saying 'well only the laws of priesthood are blotted out' what is it you are saying about those jots and tittles?
by agreeing that 'only the priesthood and the sacrifices written in the Law are no longer' what do you suppose happened to the jots and tittles that make up the words of the Law that specified them? they are either wiped away, dude, or by some other cause they are to the believer as though they do not exist, if they do not apply.

now how could that have happened?? ((†))

ain't it ironic that you can say the very same thing i say, thinking yourself a teacher, but calling me a liar and a hater of God for saying it? i dunno dude personally i think that ought to bother you. but maybe you don't mind the duplicity?? i'll give you benefit of doubt; i'll assume you just don't know what you're doing and really don't understand what i say. perhaps you simply can't.

We can trust in the Word of Almighty, even when we do not understand it. If we will have a little faith that all His Words are true, it gets even easier as we go along, each time we prove something we once did not understand how it could be true,,,is in fact true.

how is it possible that this may be in any wise no longer the binding commandment of God, without the removal of a single jot or tittle?

That question gets asked over and over. Yeshua said not one tittle or jot would pass away until all be fulfilled. We know all has not been fulfilled, because He has not returned and heaven and earth is still here. If we do not consider the whole counsel of YHWH we will not see clearly.

New mediator ~Deaut 18
New priesthood~Psalm 110-Gen 14
New Covenant~Jeremiah31-Ezek

Almighty Himself has placed these provisions/clauses within His contract/covenant. There for a witness, concerning these changes. How else could the deciples have convenced even the Bereans from the Torah/Prophets? It's all there, everything accounted for.

 

[Studyman]

="posthuman, post: 3713421, member: 170505"]thus proving exactly what i was saying.

Appoint Aaron and his sons to serve as priests; ​

anyone else who approaches the sanctuary is to be put to death. ​

(Numbers 3:10)​

how is it possible that this may be in any wise no longer the binding commandment of God, without the removal of a single jot or tittle?

If you read this verse only and reject the rest of the Bible, this could be true. But the Law and Prophets also says many more things regarding this Priesthood.

This is why it's important to live by "EVERY WORD" of God and not just those scriptures which can be used to justify religious tradition.

A good example of what you are doing is as follows.

7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:
22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.

So if I were to use your tactic of using the scriptures, I could just stop there and believe that I am an imagination. That I really don't exist because God Said "ALL" Flesh was destroyed. "All means all", I can hear it now. But if I were to study further, I would learn that this representation of God's Word is incomplete, and using it this way is a deception and a lie. The same tactic the serpent used to deceive Eve. It used "Parts" of God's Word, but not "ALL" of God's Word. This tactic is common among religious men. This is why the Messiah said:

"Man shall not live by bread alone, but by "EVERY" Word of God.

So in man's attempt to preserve their religious lifestyle they use a scripture which, taken by itself, suggests the Christ is actually transgressing the Commandments of God be taking over the Priesthood duties that only a Levite can partake of, thus giving them cover to transgress God's Commandments as well. Which seems to be their motive in the first place.

But if you would do as instructed and study the Word , you would know that God promised there would come a day when He Himself would personally take over the "Priesthood Duties". (Jer. 31) And in Hebrews 7 we learn that this is true. But for this to happen there had to be a "Change in the Law" because as you pointed out. The Priesthood had been originally created for the Levites and the Word which became Flesh is not a Levite. So as it is written "By necessity" there had to be a change in the Law. This was first promised in the Law and Prophets ( Ps. 108, Jer. 31 and elsewhere) so when it happened it was the "Fulfillment" of the Law and Prophets, not a transgression of the Law and Prophets as you would have us believe.

So in Biblical Truth the change in the Priesthood was a fulfillment of the Law and Prophets, not a transgression of it as you preach.

if we may find a single jot or a single tittle that is not 100% binding on the believer, who has died with Christ, who is complete in Him, whose sinful nature has been subjected to circumcision by the very hand of God, who was raised with Him, who was dead but was made alive by His work, who has been forgiven of all sins - if there is even one single thing in the Law that does not apply to such a person, then there is an inescapable thing we have to deal with.
by saying 'well only the laws of priesthood are blotted out' what is it you are saying about those jots and tittles?
by agreeing that 'only the priesthood and the sacrifices written in the Law are no longer' what do you suppose happened to the jots and tittles that make up the words of the Law that specified them? they are either wiped away, dude, or by some other cause they are to the believer as though they do not exist, if they do not apply.

But it is you who are saying the Priesthood got wiped out. Not me or the Bible. I just said the opposite and you completely ignored it.
The Priesthood was not wiped out. You may preach this. But according to Every Word of God we still have a Priesthood, and we still have a sacrifice for sins and we still have a High Priest. And it is patterned exactly as the Law and Prophets foretold.

And the Christ is the Fulfillment of these promises made in the Law and Prophets, not a breaker of God's Laws as you imply.

now how could that have happened??

ain't it ironic that you can say the very same thing i say, thinking yourself a teacher, but calling me a liar and a hater of God for saying it? i dunno dude personally i think that ought to bother you. but maybe you don't mind the duplicity?? i'll give you benefit of doubt; i'll assume you just don't know what you're doing and really don't understand what i say. perhaps you simply can't

.

This is another error of yours. You assume people can't read your posts and understand your preaching. I understand it perfectly. And you are free to preach whatever you want. For me It's not about you or your religion, it's about what the Word of God teaches. All of it. Not just one scripture taken out of context in Hebrews 7, or Numbers 3.

 

[posthuman]

We can trust in the Word of Almighty, even when we do not understand it. If we will have a little faith that all His Words are true, it gets even easier as we go along, each time we prove something we once did not understand how it could be true,,,is in fact true.

how is it possible that this may be in any wise no longer the binding commandment of God, without the removal of a single jot or tittle?

That question gets asked over and over. Yeshua said not one tittle or jot would pass away until all be fulfilled. We know all has not been fulfilled, because He has not returned and heaven and earth is still here. If we do not consider the whole counsel of YHWH we will not see clearly.

New mediator ~Deaut 18
New priesthood~Psalm 110-Gen 14
New Covenant~Jeremiah31-Ezek

Almighty Himself has placed these provisions/clauses within His contract/covenant. There for a witness, concerning these changes. How else could the deciples have convenced even the Bereans from the Torah/Prophets? It's all there, everything accounted for.

you obviously don't understand what you are replying to.

• the fact that it the appearing of the Messiah was foretold doesn't change the fact in Christ we are not under the Law but grace.
• the fact that the Messiah is priest forever doesn't change the fact that in Christ we are not under the Law, but grace.
• the fact that He said hundreds of years before He did it, that He would make a new covenant not like the one He made at Sinai with the nation Israel does not change the fact that He made a new covenant, not like the one He made at Sinai with the nation Israel.

what the Bereans read is that God, knowing the end from the beginning, said that the Law would be their schoolmaster, to bring them to Christ - and when they then being complete in Him, they would be as sons, no longer under a tutor.

the Word was made flesh and nailed to a cross, so that whoever puts their trust in this will have peace with God.
why do you not believe that?
the crucified Word raised to life so that whoever has faith in Him will have life forever.
why would you act like this isn't true?

 

[Shamah]

Matthew 5:17-19, “Do not think..."

 

[posthuman]

But it is you who are saying the Priesthood got wiped out. Not me or the Bible.

*ahem* Hebrews 7:12

is the 9th commandment good?

 

[posthuman]

Matthew 5:17-19, “Do not think..."

John 19:30 "it is finished"

what, exactly?

 

[Shamah]

John 19:30 "it is finished"

what, exactly?

Ahh yes... The first coming is finished... He came as the Passover Lamb, but returns as the conquering Lion...

How many times do I have to point this out?

We have talked a lot, can you give you view of this:

There are 2 "it is done" statements...

Fulfilled already
John 19:30, “So when יהושע took the sour wine He said, “It is done!” And bowing His head, He gave up His spirit.”

To be fulfilled in the future
Revelation 21:4-8, “And Yah shall wipe away every tear from their eyes, and there shall be no more death, nor mourning, nor crying. And there shall be no more pain, for the former matters have passed away. And He who was sitting on the throne said, “See, I make all matters new.” And He said to me, “Write, for these words are true and trustworthy. And He said to me, “It is done! I am the ‘Aleph’ and the ‘Taw’, the Beginning and the End. To the one who thirsts I shall give of the fountain of the water of life without payment. The one who overcomes shall inherit all this, and I shall be his Strength and he shall be My son. But as for the cowardly, and untrustworthy, and abominable, and murderers, and those who whore, and drug sorcerers, and idolaters, and all the false, their part is in the lake which burns with fire and sulphur, which is the second death.”

Is it ALL done or is there still a second coming yet to come?

 

[Studyman]

*ahem* Hebrews 7:12

is the 9th commandment good?

Did you not even read my post?

Of course you didn't.

 

[Karraster]

what the Bereans read is that God, knowing the end from the beginning, said that the Law would be their schoolmaster, to bring them to Christ - and when they then being complete in Him, they would be as sons, no longer under a tutor.

lol, posthuman that chapter/verse was yet to be written. Where in the scriptures they had at that time, did they see the plan of salvation in Christ?

Acts 28:23 So a time was set, and on that day a large number of people came to Paul's lodging. He explained and testified about the Kingdom of God and tried to persuade them about Jesus from the Scriptures. Using the law of Moses and the books of the prophets, he spoke to them from morning until evening.

 

[posthuman]

lol, posthuman that chapter/verse was yet to be written. Where in the scriptures they had at that time, did they see the plan of salvation in Christ?

the very same things you pointed at, dear. don't you understand them?
Deuteronomy 18, Psalm 110, Genesis 14, Jeremiah 31, Ezekiel.
Genesis 3, 6, 12, 15, 17, 22, 49. Numbers 21, 24. Isaiah 7, 9, 11, 35, 40, 42, 53. Daniel 7-9. Malachi 4. Jonah. Zechariah. at least a third of the Psalms. Hosea 11. Micah 5.

all of the scripture testifies of Christ

 

[posthuman]

Acts 28:23 So a time was set, and on that day a large number of people came to Paul's lodging. He explained and testified about the Kingdom of God and tried to persuade them about Jesus from the Scriptures. Using the law of Moses and the books of the prophets, he spoke to them from morning until evening.

seeing that you put here where Paul showed them the gospel from all these scriptures, and ((i assume)) knowing that Jesus did the same starting with Moses and all the way through all the prophets to the disciples on the road to Emmaus, why in the world are you putting this, and then challenging me as though the very verses you are posting are not true?

you're telling me the scriptures testify of Christ and at the same time trying to argue with me that they don't. what in the world are you thinking??