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Dan_473

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O.K. I found a verse about the flesh that I was trying to explain, and I just now found it so I will go ahead, and share it here.

2 John 7:7
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

It's very important to have it to confess the flesh part. I've met spirits says Christ is God, but deny the flesh.
Amen, Jesus came in the flesh!
 

luigi

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This is an internet it's not easy when once ban, and you're gone for good. Internet is a cruel place for Christian with spiritual gifts because they can just simply click the ban button.

We cannot take the internet lightly unless you cannot get banned then sure, but even though you cannot get banned pharisees still cannot forgive you for what you said 20 years ago.

I agree with you, but we're all learning, and there is not enough Christian out there that is bearing one, and another burden, and or lifting a brother up.
I also have been banned/blacklisted from another site "bibleforurms.org", for having suggested in my OP "Prophesies other than from the bible" that some music from the 60's and 70's seem to have accurately prophesied events occurring today.
 
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O.K. I found a verse about the flesh that I was trying to explain, and I just now found it so I will go ahead, and share it here.

2 John 7:7
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

It's very important to have it to confess the flesh part. I've met spirits says Christ is God, but deny the flesh.
The demons acknowledged Christ did come in the flesh as a one time demonstration . It becomes what do some deny? Do they deny he will not come in flesh ever again?

It would seem some are expecting him to come in the flesh again as if God was a man as us. This is a deceiver and an antichrist the abomination of desecration standing in the Holy place of Gods unseen glory .
 
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I also have been banned/blacklisted from another site "bibleforurms.org", for having suggested in my OP "Prophesies other than from the bible" that some music from the 60's and 70's seem to have accurately prophesied events occurring today.
God is no longer briniging new revelations as prophecy . He leaves us a warning not to add or subtract now that we have the whole or perfect.

Why try and use another source of faith for hearing God?

You could say the music reflected a sign of times . But to say it is prophecy is another matter. It would be no different than any other person that makes guesses .Like Nostradomus.
 

luigi

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God is no longer briniging new revelations as prophecy . He leaves us a warning not to add or subtract now that we have the whole or perfect.

Why try and use another source of faith for hearing God?

You could say the music reflected a sign of times . But to say it is prophecy is another matter. It would be no different than any other person that makes guesses .Like Nostradomus.
You are incorrect. Not only are there prophesies occurring currently (1 Thessalonians 5:20), but there will also be prophesies occurring into the near future, until the last days of the current world order under Satan (Acts 2:17).

1 Thessalonians 5:20 Despise not prophesyings.

Acts 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
 

luigi

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I thought it was clearly understood in the OP that to try the spirits to see what they declared was legitimate or not concerned prophesy.

1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
 

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Greetings Iozion welcome, I see you joined in September and are still capturing the essence of this CC forum... Thanks for sharing your post - I think you will like it here in the cc... Lots of amazingly honest, and gracious, sometimes outspoken and opinionated - but always loving, caring and giving of advice for those who are seeking prayer, friendship, support or just a break from their daily routine... God Bless
 

Iozion

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What part of "the Lord works in mysterious way" you don't understand? Why is it so hard for the believer to glorify the Lord? Jesus rebuke the wind, and we accept it, and if somebody move mountain then it's not acceptable because it has never happen in the Bible.

Just because it never happen in the Bible it doesn't mean it's not from God. The Bible is very clear that God can do anything just as Christ walk on water, and if any one can walk on wall does it make it not from God, or even fly?

This is why Christ keep saying o ye of little faith with man it's impossible, but with God all things are possible. We must understand that we're small, and we're nothing, and we cannot comprehend what God can do.

The Bible says nothing to be added, or delete it doesn't mean if we have vision it's adding it still part of the Bible, but just because the vision didn't match up doesn't mean it is adding it just mean it's still part of the Bible.

As long as the Spirit, or spirits can say Jesus is the Lord, and confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and if the Spirit, or spirits can worship Jesus, and declare that Jesus is the Lord, and is of God, and bowing down, and worshiping Jesus then there is no condemnation in Christ Jesus that walk in the Spirit.




 

Iozion

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Matthew 17:20
He replied, "Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you."

See Jesus said nothing will be impossible I mean the Bible is very clear it's saying anything can happen, and it can still be from God.
 

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I quickly flipped the pages of this thread and still realized the OP has not received what he was asking for. There are plenty of conversations taking place, but none that actually include the OP.

So with that in mind, "Since you do claim to be blessed with certain gifts, including having more than one gift, maybe the conversation you seek is the one you must put forth yourself." Maybe the, why doesn't my church accept and utilize my knowledge and gift(s) ...should become, I am prepared for what happens when outside of the church becomes the war zone that I should be facing and allowing God to conquer through me.

But on here, I think you are looking for confirmation of something you are feeling led to do. Like when a preacher seems like he will be there forever and then 5 weeks later announces he is leaving. He goes with the flow of God.

So, what would a conversation consisting of the parameters you've set before us, plus the topic you want to actually discuss, that it would require greater reasoning and understanding skills to peak your intelligence?
 

Iozion

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I just want to be accepted even though I am having gifts, and I trust my gifts that is from God because I practice a lot on how to discern, and trusting the Lord's word that this is from God.

The majority have no understanding how to tell if things are from God, and I am showing people how to tell if things are from the Lord, and helping people gain skill in discerning the different between good, and evil.

The majority lack knowledge, and they are in fear state where they are not sure if things are from God, and what the majority does is they just don't trust anything, and resist everything rather than humbling, and getting engage with what the Lord has bless them with.

What I experienced really mean nothing, and even if I cast out 1,000 demon it still doesn't mean anything because we're not saved by work it's grace we are saved through faith. I may have two alien when Jesus Christ said if you love me feed my lamb so I will do my best, and I will be honest I do not feed his lamb very well that is because I am the only one with this knowledge, and this blessing, and it's hard when you're all alone, and nobody having a clue about it, but just you.

I am trying to get creative on how to feed Christ lamb honestly this is a totally new things for me, but the majority doesn't understand, and even if I try to tell them they will flat out tell me to reject it, and want me to become rebellion, and not trust in God.

Y'all see this is what I am trying to say we need advance topic, and advance discussion the kind where it belong to secret society level, and advance level where Christian doesn't judge a brother, but rather try to help to receive the knowledge of the truth.
 
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I just want to be accepted even though I am having gifts, and I trust my gifts that is from God because I practice a lot on how to discern, and trusting the Lord's word that this is from God.

The majority have no understanding how to tell if things are from God, and I am showing people how to tell if things are from the Lord, and helping people gain skill in discerning the different between good, and evil.

The majority lack knowledge, and they are in fear state where they are not sure if things are from God, and what the majority does is they just don't trust anything, and resist everything rather than humbling, and getting engage with what the Lord has bless them with.

What I experienced really mean nothing, and even if I cast out 1,000 demon it still doesn't mean anything because we're not saved by work it's grace we are saved through faith. I may have two alien when Jesus Christ said if you love me feed my lamb so I will do my best, and I will be honest I do not feed his lamb very well that is because I am the only one with this knowledge, and this blessing, and it's hard when you're all alone, and nobody having a clue about it, but just you.

I am trying to get creative on how to feed Christ lamb honestly this is a totally new things for me, but the majority doesn't understand, and even if I try to tell them they will flat out tell me to reject it, and want me to become rebellion, and not trust in God.

Y'all see this is what I am trying to say we need advance topic, and advance discussion the kind where it belong to secret society level, and advance level where Christian doesn't judge a brother, but rather try to help to receive the knowledge of the truth.
Can i ask you a few questions friend?
1. Is Jesus Lord?
2. Did Jesus Christ rise from the grave? How do you know?
3. Did Jesus Christ come to the Earth in a body? How do you know?
 
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I just want to be accepted even though I am having gifts, and I trust my gifts that is from God because I practice a lot on how to discern, and trusting the Lord's word that this is from God.

The majority have no understanding how to tell if things are from God, and I am showing people how to tell if things are from the Lord, and helping people gain skill in discerning the different between good, and evil.

The majority lack knowledge, and they are in fear state where they are not sure if things are from God, and what the majority does is they just don't trust anything, and resist everything rather than humbling, and getting engage with what the Lord has bless them with.

What I experienced really mean nothing, and even if I cast out 1,000 demon it still doesn't mean anything because we're not saved by work it's grace we are saved through faith. I may have two alien when Jesus Christ said if you love me feed my lamb so I will do my best, and I will be honest I do not feed his lamb very well that is because I am the only one with this knowledge, and this blessing, and it's hard when you're all alone, and nobody having a clue about it, but just you.

I am trying to get creative on how to feed Christ lamb honestly this is a totally new things for me, but the majority doesn't understand, and even if I try to tell them they will flat out tell me to reject it, and want me to become rebellion, and not trust in God.

Y'all see this is what I am trying to say we need advance topic, and advance discussion the kind where it belong to secret society level, and advance level where Christian doesn't judge a brother, but rather try to help to receive the knowledge of the truth.

seriously folks

can you read the heavy type above?

does that actually sound like the Holy Spirit? it may be a spirit, but it is not holy

these things are not from God. this is no 'gift' from God.

he is the ONLY one with 'this' knowledge? what knowledge is that?

nobody understands? what is it they do not understand? how to deal with this stuff?

for one thing, stop entertaining it

it isn't God
 

Iozion

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Notice this guy above me he just flat out assume, and not asking question, or despising
seriously folks

can you read the heavy type above?

does that actually sound like the Holy Spirit? it may be a spirit, but it is not holy

these things are not from God. this is no 'gift' from God.

he is the ONLY one with 'this' knowledge? what knowledge is that?

nobody understands? what is it they do not understand? how to deal with this stuff?

for one thing, stop entertaining it

it isn't God
Exactly that what the word pharisees mean it mean one word isolation. You are the reason why many of us are in a great apostasy, and the same reason why many of us are blocked to get to God. Jesus was able to heal, raise the dead, and do many miracles, but look at us if y'all believe y'all got it so right then why are we not doing what Christ has done?

That right there should give you enough reason to ponder about it for awhile, and it should be evident that maybe y'all are suppressing the truth, and Jesus Christ.

This is why I asked for a place to chat stuff that is advance so people like me can freely speak out, and learn from others, and we're to have fellowship, and I can understand one leaven leave the whole lump thing, but we need teacher, prophets, and sage to help out, and teacher is very important they help correct the error of our way, and we need prophets cause they can help get the word of God line up right, and help organize, and to help people understanding the mystery of the Lord.

I will tell you how to know if you're dealing with a true teacher. True teacher is very rare, and true teacher are always being persecuted. A true teacher will not tell you what to do, but it will teach you how to know God better. A true teacher will teach you how to depend on the Lord, and how to get to know God, and how to trust the Lord. A true teacher will not judge you, and a true teacher will lead you straight to God, and a true teacher will teach you how to listen to God, and how to serve the Lord.

A true teacher understand that God works differently for everybody, and a true teacher will not tell you what you have heard is wrong it will tell you just keep seeing the Lord, and trust on him, and the teacher will say do not listen to me, nor anybody only trust in God.

A true teacher will teach you discernment, and will teach you how to know if you're on the right path, or the right Lord, and the right Jesus, and a true teacher is not a hypocrites, and a true teacher understand the Lord, and understand that God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if received from the Lord, and a true teacher would tell people not to reject because they know God, and understand God that he works in a mysterious way, and a true teacher know that God is not limit, and his blessing is never ending, and it cannot be comprehend.

A true teacher will set your path to God, and will not block you from getting to God, and it will encourage you to keep going, and will tell you to keep seeking God, and let God teach you, and let God show you because a true teacher know that we do not need to teach anybody, and it is God that teach us.

Pharisees want to control, and are legalism if they see something they do not agree they will want to try to fix you, and try to put you up to their standards, and this is why true teacher is so hard to come by cause pharisees doesn't like the idea of you being taught by God, and they want you to be taught by them.


Proverbs 3:6
in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight.

Proverbs 3:5-6 New International Version (NIV)
5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding;
6 in all your ways submit to him,
and he will make your paths straight.

 

luigi

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Matthew 17:20
He replied, "Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you."

See Jesus said nothing will be impossible I mean the Bible is very clear it's saying anything can happen, and it can still be from God.
John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

As I am unaware of anyone today doing any of the miracles the Lord and many other first century Christians did; it would then appear we are of very little faith. It will be interesting when someone with enough faith will fly, or tells a mountain to move and it moves.
I think this level of faith comes in again somewhere at the end of the beasts reign.
 
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I seriously doubt that Jesus meant moving a real mountain, not that such is impossible with God, mind you. :)
 
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I am trying to get creative on how to feed Christ lamb honestly this is a totally new things for me, but the majority doesn't understand, and even if I try to tell them they will flat out tell me to reject it, and want me to become rebellion, and not trust in God.

Y'all see this is what I am trying to say we need advance topic, and advance discussion the kind where it belong to secret society level, and advance level where Christian doesn't judge a brother, but rather try to help to receive the knowledge of the truth.
Frankly, God hasn't called you to feed his lambs with your false teachings and self-deceived notions.

Amazingly you talk about not judging (meaning no one is to judge your misusage of Scripture with misinterpretations) while you spend many words in judging others who call out your errors.

Buy the way, this isn't "all new" for you, you've been on this false path a long while now. :)
 
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If you seriously doubt, you then do not believe the Lords Word/s.
You've managed to misconstrue my response. No need for that type of misrepresentation.

I believe the LORD'S words alright, just not the misunderstanding of his words.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Notice this guy above me he just flat out assume, and not asking question, or despising


Exactly that what the word pharisees mean it mean one word isolation. You are the reason why many of us are in a great apostasy, and the same reason why many of us are blocked to get to God. Jesus was able to heal, raise the dead, and do many miracles, but look at us if y'all believe y'all got it so right then why are we not doing what Christ has done?

That right there should give you enough reason to ponder about it for awhile, and it should be evident that maybe y'all are suppressing the truth, and Jesus Christ.

This is why I asked for a place to chat stuff that is advance so people like me can freely speak out, and learn from others, and we're to have fellowship, and I can understand one leaven leave the whole lump thing, but we need teacher, prophets, and sage to help out, and teacher is very important they help correct the error of our way, and we need prophets cause they can help get the word of God line up right, and help organize, and to help people understanding the mystery of the Lord.

I will tell you how to know if you're dealing with a true teacher. True teacher is very rare, and true teacher are always being persecuted. A true teacher will not tell you what to do, but it will teach you how to know God better. A true teacher will teach you how to depend on the Lord, and how to get to know God, and how to trust the Lord. A true teacher will not judge you, and a true teacher will lead you straight to God, and a true teacher will teach you how to listen to God, and how to serve the Lord.

A true teacher understand that God works differently for everybody, and a true teacher will not tell you what you have heard is wrong it will tell you just keep seeing the Lord, and trust on him, and the teacher will say do not listen to me, nor anybody only trust in God.

A true teacher will teach you discernment, and will teach you how to know if you're on the right path, or the right Lord, and the right Jesus, and a true teacher is not a hypocrites, and a true teacher understand the Lord, and understand that God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if received from the Lord, and a true teacher would tell people not to reject because they know God, and understand God that he works in a mysterious way, and a true teacher know that God is not limit, and his blessing is never ending, and it cannot be comprehend.

A true teacher will set your path to God, and will not block you from getting to God, and it will encourage you to keep going, and will tell you to keep seeking God, and let God teach you, and let God show you because a true teacher know that we do not need to teach anybody, and it is God that teach us.

Pharisees want to control, and are legalism if they see something they do not agree they will want to try to fix you, and try to put you up to their standards, and this is why true teacher is so hard to come by cause pharisees doesn't like the idea of you being taught by God, and they want you to be taught by them.


Proverbs 3:6
in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight.

Proverbs 3:5-6 New International Version (NIV)
5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding;
6 in all your ways submit to him,
and he will make your paths straight.

you are as false as they come