Faith comes by "hearing", "hearing" by the word of God ? You decide .

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dcontroversal

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preacher4truth said:
No, it's not what you say or what he says. You're both in error.

Children tossed too and fro with every wind of doctrine...

Unbelievable accept the Word warned us of this.

Can anyone say "hoodwinked?"
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I can......

hood·wink
/ˈho͝odˌwiNGk/
verb
past tense: hoodwinked; past participle: hoodwinked
  1. deceive or trick (someone).
    "an attempt to hoodwink the public"
    synonyms:deceive, trick, dupe, outwit, fool, delude, inveigle, cheat, take in, hoax, mislead, lead on, defraud, double-cross, swindle, gull, scam; More
 
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Hepzibah said:
I had not looked at this verse in that way but agree. It is those who already believe who hear the word of God speaking directly to them and who then go on to faithing.
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Sorry , my tablet got me again Hephzibah .
That should have read , " hearing God's word " is Not " the true act of pisteuo or faithing .
 
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BaptistBibleBeliever said:
No - your view on when a believer receives the Holy Spirit is the error. Are you even reading what I post to you? I don't care, if you want to be in error that's fine - but don't spread it around like manure.
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Your declaration means nothing without backing it up . If you disagree that's fine , but replace what I'm talking about with a better understanding .
 
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Pisteuo said:
Your declaration means nothing without backing it up . If you disagree that's fine , but replace what I'm talking about with a better understanding .
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I've backed up my claims showing your error and misusage of texts of Scripture, but you would have none of it. That's saddening.

Let me put things in perspective: You don't have the wake up call for the church as you claimed when you came on this site. Your behavior has been cultic, as I've shown you, due to asking others to agree with you before you proceed, and then attempting to shame others.

That and you've also borne false witness in a thread with one of your posts.

I am asking that you repent, believe the Gospel, and end your false teaching of this "faithing" nonsense. Christ is enough.
 
dcontroversal

dcontroversal

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preacher4truth said:
I've backed up my claims showing your error and misusage of texts of Scripture, but you would have none of it. That's saddening.

Let me put things in perspective: You don't have the wake up call for the church as you claimed when you came on this site. Your behavior has been cultic, as I've shown you, due to asking others to agree with you before you proceed, and then attempting to shame others.

That and you've also borne false witness in a thread with one of your posts.

I am asking that you repent, believe the Gospel, and end your false teaching of this "faithing" nonsense. Christ is enough.
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I know...."faithing" <-------This is ridiculous...........and that is the nicest way to put it...............
 
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dcontroversal said:
I know...."faithing" <-------This is ridiculous...........and that is the nicest way to put it...............
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Pisteuo , arguably the most important word in the Scriptures for us understand how to start , maintain , and complete a relationship with Christ on Earth , could not be translated into the English language . The words the English language should have had are faithe , faither , and faithing . Since they didn't , pisteuo was mistranslated when they used the words believe , believer , and believing , 248 times in the NT . Because of this , the understanding of how Faith is applied has been completely lost to time .
 
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Seems they had no problem translating pistachio here:

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Mark 13:7 “When you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be frightened; those things must take place; but that is not yet the end.
 
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Pisteuo said:
Pisteuo , arguably the most important word in the Scriptures for us understand how to start , maintain , and complete a relationship with Christ on Earth , could not be translated into the English language . The words the English language should have had are faithe , faither , and faithing . Since they didn't , pisteuo was mistranslated when they used the words believe , believer , and believing , 248 times in the NT . Because of this , the understanding of how Faith is applied has been completely lost to time .
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Not hardly pal.......NICE try, but no ceeeeegar! Read Hebrews 11 and wrap your head around the truth......
 
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Locutus said:
Seems they had no problem translating pistachio here:

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Mark 13:7 “When you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be frightened; those things must take place; but that is not yet the end.
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You mean pisteuo ? Akoe the Greek word that is compared to a courtroom hearing . The word " hear" is yet another different Greek word .
 
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dcontroversal said:
Not hardly pal.......NICE try but no ceeeeegar! Read Hebrews 11 and wrap your head around the truth......
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The Greek has two words for Faith , pistis the noun and pisteuo the corresponding verb . The English has the noun , Faith , but no corresponding verb . Because of this the English speaking people as a whole have completely lost the knowledge of what an act of Faith really is .

Do you know you fulfill hundreds of acts of Faith ( pisteuo ) every day . Most of them probably have nothing to do with God .

Pisteuo is an act , based upon abelief , sustained by confidence . Think about it , pretty much all we do all day is faithe . Faithing into Christ , that is a specific act , based upon a specific belief , sustained by a specific kind of confidence . And that is a per the Vines : " a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender " .
 
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Pisteuo said:
You mean pisteuo ? Akoe the Greek word that is compared to a courtroom hearing . The word " hear" is yet another different Greek word .
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No, I meant aloe - "hearing" in the verse from Mark 13:7.

You're the pistachio.
 
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Pisteuo said:
The Greek has two words for Faith , pistis the noun and pisteuo the corresponding verb . The English has the noun , Faith , but no corresponding verb . Because of this the English speaking people as a whole have completely lost the knowledge of what an act of Faith really is .

Do you know you fulfill hundreds of acts of Faith ( pisteuo ) every day . Most of them probably have nothing to do with God .

Pisteuo is an act , based upon abelief , sustained by confidence . Think about it , pretty much all we do all day is faithe . Faithing into Christ , that is a specific act , based upon a specific belief , sustained by a specific kind of confidence . And that is a per the Vines : " a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender " .
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More error.

The act of faith a person has in every day life is not the faith that is granted by God supernaturally; Romans 12:3; Ephesians 1:19; Philippians 1:29 &c. Thus you are giving out more false teaching, not knowing even the elementary teachings of the faith, Jude 1:4 while conflating human faith with God's supernatural gift.

You're in over your head and thankfully not too many are gullible enough to be bamboozled by your errors.
 
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pistachios are quite tasty,


I know sry...
 
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Locutus said:
No, I meant aloe - "hearing" in the verse from Mark 13:7.

You're the pistachio.
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Oh , Faith and the Salvation journey is a joke to you !

I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed . Akoe
 
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