Faith comes by "hearing", "hearing" by the word of God ? You decide .

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dcontroversal said:
I already told you above and it went above your radar due to your current BELIEF
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The Greek language doesn't even have a word for our English word" believe " . The Greek only allows Faithing forward towards God ( pisteuo " , or faithing away from God ( apisteuo ) . No such thing as a middle or neutral ground .

And there's also the problem that when pisteuo was mistranslated with the words believe , believer , and believing into the English language , it's also mistranslated back out of the English and stamped onto the Greek , even though they don't have the word in their language .
 
preacher4truth said:
Now that you've discovered your error, are you ready to learn and unlearn your errors?

After you accept and agree with the above, we can move forward.

Your move: accept, and agree.
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Sorry I'm allergic to dispensationalists .
 
Pisteuo said:
Sorry I'm allergic to dispensationalists .
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...and truth, and correction.

But anyhow, I'm no dispy. You're most important concern needs to be where you will spend eternity, how you will get your sins forgiven by faith in Christ, in other words genuine conversion.
 
preacher4truth said:
...and truth, and correction.

But anyhow, I'm no dispy. You're most important concern needs to be where you will spend eternity, how you will get your sins forgiven by faith in Christ, in other words genuine conversion.
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Do tell .
 
Pisteuo said:
Do tell .
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first, this will require humility

like why in the world would prideful people ever want humility in the first place?

so first God have to draw you

if you ever desire humility, give thanks to God for that desire
 
theanointedsinner said:
first, this will require humility

like why in the world would prideful people ever want humility in the first place?

so first God have to draw you

if you ever desire humility, give thanks to God for that desire
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Good start , we are first drawn by the Father , a small group called out from among a large group .
 
Pisteuo said:
Why didn't you bring this up when we were at that stage if this discussion ? I gave you the chance and you disappeared .
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I did bring it up. HERE is ONE of the posts where I did so.. I brought it up like three times.

But my spidey-sense was correct yet again. FALSE TEACHING coming from your end. As I predicted from your long lasting REFUSAL to tell people how to gain the spirit of Christ. NOBODY holds back on gospe truth who has it.
 
Pisteuo said:
I'll listen to your understanding of the Salvation journey from the point the Father draws or calls us out to Christ .
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secondly, since the desire is God given, it's best to use that gift toward Godly direction, which takes recognition on our part, or if we are sufficiently consumed by that God given desire, we can desire God.

and what we do with that desire can require guidance and wisdom,

assuming that we are doing the right things with that desire, we can recognize that we are sinner, "call upon the name of the Lord and you shall be saved", believe with all your being, even for a second at least, take that opportunity, call upon the Lord with sincere believe, and God will save you based on the God given gift of faith and grace.
 
Hevosmies said:
I did bring it up. HERE is ONE of the posts where I did so.. I brought it up like three times.

But my spidey-sense was correct yet again. FALSE TEACHING coming from your end. As I predicted from your long lasting REFUSAL to tell people how to gain the spirit of Christ. NOBODY holds back on gospe truth who has it.
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Submit a better understanding of what I presented , as simple as I presented . It's not that hard . Like you said , what is this like 20 pages in , and nobody will submit one .
The beginning of the Salvation journey .
 
Pisteuo said:
Submit a better understanding of what I presented , as simple as I presented . It's not that hard . Like you said , what is this like 20 pages in , and nobody will submit one .
The beginning of the Salvation journey .
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recognize God's drawing you, and follow God's drawing
 
preacher4truth said:
It's OK that you don't know the answers.
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I've put my understanding on the table to be tested , along with the normal abuse , if you disagree , replace my understanding with a better one . Not that difficult , unless you don't have one . Kind of hard fitting all the happenings that must happen in the Salvation process , and in the correct order in a moment of time isn't it ?
 
Pisteuo said:
God draws or calls , then we respond with a mental turning of our way to His way , repentance . Then we do what ?
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believe in your heart, and call upon the name of the Lord and you shall be saved
 
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