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Some years ago I reasoned within myself how lucky we are to live on a
magnetic planet because without Earth's polarized magnetism, compasses
wouldn't work. Well; I love compasses, and in point of fact own several.
But then I found out that were our planet not magnetic, living organisms as
we know them couldn't survive here due to bombardment by charged
particles hurled our way by the solar wind. The Earth's magnetic field
deflects a very large percentage of the solar wind's charged particles, thus
protecting life on Earth from annihilation. So as it turns out, the Earth's
magnetism is by design rather than by fortune.
But this is a very important consideration in science's search for exoplanets
suitable for life. If a candidate planet lacks polarized magnetism then forget
it; that planet would be no more suitable for life than Venus or Mars because
its host star's solar wind would be keeping it perpetually devastated.
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Some years ago I reasoned within myself how lucky we are to live on a
magnetic planet because without Earth's polarized magnetism, compasses
wouldn't work. Well; I love compasses, and in point of fact own several.
But then I found out that were our planet not magnetic, living organisms as
we know them couldn't survive here due to bombardment by charged
particles hurled our way by the solar wind. The Earth's magnetic field
deflects a very large percentage of the solar wind's charged particles, thus
protecting life on Earth from annihilation. So as it turns out, the Earth's
magnetism is by design rather than by fortune.
But this is a very important consideration in science's search for exoplanets
suitable for life. If a candidate planet lacks polarized magnetism then forget
it; that planet would be no more suitable for life than Venus or Mars because
its host star's solar wind would be keeping it perpetually devastated.
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Adam is a man made of the Earth. Satan is not human but is an Angel of God. When God created man, He knew what was in man, filthiness, He made flesh from the Earth, which is with the sin nature, the desire to satisfy that flesh. Humans know what hunger feels like, Angels do not know that feeling, because they are not made of Earthly flesh. God knew Adam would sin, because Adam was human. God did not know satan would sin, because sin did not exist until satan created it. When the Father in Heaven created Jesus, who then created all things that exists, when Jesus created the Angels, He just made them to exist with Him, there was no plan for them. Just as God is the "I AM" there is no plan for that, He just "IS". likewise the Father, Jesus, Holy Ghost, and all the Hosts of Angels All existed in Heaven, NO PLANS were made, they just existed. When Lucifer created sin within himself, if was only after that, that God came up with a PLAN. When He created Adam, He knew full well that one day His Son Jesus Christ would be sent to the Earth for a sacrifice for all the humans on the Earth, He knew this before He even made Adam and Eve in the Garden, that was His plan.
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DiscipleDave
if God's plans do not fail, was it His plan that Satan remain in heaven forever? [/QUOTE]
you've got omniscient God being ignorant of the future here, and the only wise & omnipotent God creating angels for literally no purpose whatsoever, just to exist. no plans, no clue about how it would turn out, creating angels just *seemed like a good idea at the time*
ok so when did not-so-all-knowing-after-all God learn that Adam would sin?
after He completely purposely created angels on a whim, and after word got to Him later that one of the 'curiously and randomly made' meaningless angels created sin, and infected 1/3 of the pointless angelic beings who don't have any reason to exist?
so then finally He came up with a plan to create Adam?
well i'm glad we have a purpose.
i'm sorry to find out angels have no purpose in living, flabbergasted to hear that God is ignorant and that He creates without thinking about what He is doing, but hopeful that you can come up with some way to console them in their ennui, once we join them round the throne. maybe you can coach God a little bit on having a plan next time from the outset.
ok so when did not-so-all-knowing-after-all God learn that Adam would sin?
after He completely purposely created angels on a whim, and after word got to Him later that one of the 'curiously and randomly made' meaningless angels created sin, and infected 1/3 of the pointless angelic beings who don't have any reason to exist?
so then finally He came up with a plan to create Adam?
well i'm glad we have a purpose.
i'm sorry to find out angels have no purpose in living, flabbergasted to hear that God is ignorant and that He creates without thinking about what He is doing, but hopeful that you can come up with some way to console them in their ennui, once we join them round the throne. maybe you can coach God a little bit on having a plan next time from the outset.
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Never said there was no purpose for them, only said there was not a long term plan for them. Jesus created all the Angels because He desired to LOVE and to be LOVED by them. If there be no inhabitants of Heaven, there would be NO LOVE.
God knew Adam would sin the moment He made Human flesh which is inherantly selfish, hence the Human Nature. The desire to satisfy self. What? Do you think Angels knows what it means to be Hungry or Thirsty? They know not such things, we know such things because we reside in the flesh, earthly bodies. So God creates human flesh, with all of it Human Nature tendancies, and puts them in a Garden WITH satan, it is only a matter of time before he would commit sin. Drop a human on an island and command him not to eat any red berries or he will die, and then drop off another person continually telling the first person it is OK to eat red berries they are delicious, look i am eating them, i am not dying am i? That person, maybe not at the first, but will eventually eat the red berries, it called human nature.
You do error not understanding what i said, and are adding your own thinking into the mix. i never said they had no purpose, but you keep implying that i did. Will you apologize for it? we shall see. i plainly said when He created them their was no PLAN for them, their purpose was to inhabit Heaven, to Love and Worship the Father in Heaven, that was their sole purpose at creation. What? Do you think God planned and created and angel that would cause a WAR in Heaven, that God planned to cast into Hell 1/3 of all those Angels that He created to serve and Worship Him? Really? You think God planed for an Angel to try to take the Throne of God. You do error not understanding the things of God.
This is TRUE.
So did the Angels, but for some reason that has came from your own mind and not from what i have said, you think i have said otherwise.
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Tell me, After you get to Heaven, presuming that you and i do get there. What is the PLAN after we get to Heaven? Tell me. What there is no PLAN given to us in Scriptures what is going to happen AFTER we get to Heaven? We know our purpose will be to serve and worship and reign with Jesus Christ, that is our purpose, but tell me what do you think the PLAN is? lol
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DiscipleDave
i hear you accusing me of being a false teacher. Tell me would it be a Godly thing to give the evidence that backs up a persons accusations against a Brother in the Lord? You accuse me of being false, yet do not give anything that i have said that is contrary to any Scriptures, why? If i am teaching false things, is it not your duty to God to try to reveal such false teachings that other sheep are not led astray by such false teachings. Or will you take the easy path, by merely accusing a Brother in the Lord of teaching false things but do not reveal anything that they are teaching contrary to Scriptures, do you think God is pleased by that, or displeased by that?
i have challenged everyone who reads anything i write to reveal any Scripture that is contrary to anything that God told me to teach. yet what do i get from this generation, mere accusation.
If i am indeed teaching false things, then reveal the Scriptures that are contrary to what i teach, which i plainly testify is what God told me. If i teach in my own name, then i would be self-righteous. If i say the TRUTHS that i have come from me, from my own understanding from my own studies of the Bible, then i am a false teacher, and self-righteous. But i say what i teach come from God, and i am called self proclaimed, does that make any since at all. i say "God told me" and you claim "Self righteous" Makes no since.
What does Scriptures teach how you can tell a false teacher? Do you not try the spirits? And how do you try the spirits? Know you not that the Word of God is TRUTH. Anyone who teaches things contrary to any verse in all of Scriptures is teaching a false doctrine. God plainly told me this:
"If what you believe contradicts even one verse in Scriptures, then what you believe is WRONG"
What? am i self righteous because i tell you what God told me? Really?
preacher4truth, what have i done to YOU, that you would accuse me like you have? Did i offend you in some way? Did i wrong you in any way whatsoever? Or was it in Truth, i said something that YOU did not agree with, not that what i said contradicts Scriptures, but contradicts what YOU think is the TRUTH, is the reason you have deemed me to be a false? Tell me now, what it was that i said that makes you accuse me as being a false teacher. Can you reveal what i said that is false? or do you merely accuse me of being a false teacher, without any evidence to support such a claim.
You would do well to remember Scriptures that plainly teach how you judge others, is EXACTLY how you will be judged by God Himself. You judge me as being false, and i am asking you to reveal to me what i said that you have judged me to be false.
Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
So you judge me, have i judged you in any way whatsoever? Yet you have judged me as being a false teacher. Tell me, what have i said that you think is false, and show the Scriptures thanks.
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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††
DiscipleDave
i have challenged everyone who reads anything i write to reveal any Scripture that is contrary to anything that God told me to teach. yet what do i get from this generation, mere accusation.
If i am indeed teaching false things, then reveal the Scriptures that are contrary to what i teach, which i plainly testify is what God told me. If i teach in my own name, then i would be self-righteous. If i say the TRUTHS that i have come from me, from my own understanding from my own studies of the Bible, then i am a false teacher, and self-righteous. But i say what i teach come from God, and i am called self proclaimed, does that make any since at all. i say "God told me" and you claim "Self righteous" Makes no since.
What does Scriptures teach how you can tell a false teacher? Do you not try the spirits? And how do you try the spirits? Know you not that the Word of God is TRUTH. Anyone who teaches things contrary to any verse in all of Scriptures is teaching a false doctrine. God plainly told me this:
"If what you believe contradicts even one verse in Scriptures, then what you believe is WRONG"
What? am i self righteous because i tell you what God told me? Really?
preacher4truth, what have i done to YOU, that you would accuse me like you have? Did i offend you in some way? Did i wrong you in any way whatsoever? Or was it in Truth, i said something that YOU did not agree with, not that what i said contradicts Scriptures, but contradicts what YOU think is the TRUTH, is the reason you have deemed me to be a false? Tell me now, what it was that i said that makes you accuse me as being a false teacher. Can you reveal what i said that is false? or do you merely accuse me of being a false teacher, without any evidence to support such a claim.
You would do well to remember Scriptures that plainly teach how you judge others, is EXACTLY how you will be judged by God Himself. You judge me as being false, and i am asking you to reveal to me what i said that you have judged me to be false.
Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
So you judge me, have i judged you in any way whatsoever? Yet you have judged me as being a false teacher. Tell me, what have i said that you think is false, and show the Scriptures thanks.
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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††
DiscipleDave
Tell me, is this a TRUE statement.
A Husband and his wife created their son.
And yet that son is born.
Have you not begotten children, born to you, created through your DNA and your spouses DNA
The Father which has no physical form whatsoever, [created, begotten, born], Jesus Christ
Are you without understanding that you can't see that what proceeds from the Father is created from the Father? Seems to me you are swallowing gnats.
i say Jesus is created by the Father, you say born from the Father. GNATS.
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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††
DiscipleDave
A Husband and his wife created their son.
And yet that son is born.
Have you not begotten children, born to you, created through your DNA and your spouses DNA
The Father which has no physical form whatsoever, [created, begotten, born], Jesus Christ
Are you without understanding that you can't see that what proceeds from the Father is created from the Father? Seems to me you are swallowing gnats.
i say Jesus is created by the Father, you say born from the Father. GNATS.
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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††
DiscipleDave
The love that exists in heaven now and forever from ages past is between the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
Saying there would be no love in heaven without angels is so wrong!
Saying there would be no love in heaven without angels is so wrong!
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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††
DiscipleDave
i know that God has a plan and a purpose. He knows the end from the beginning. He knows the plans He has for us, and He knows the plans He has for the angels, and He's known them from before the beginning: He created them. i understand purpose to be inextricable from plan, and that the story of mankind is not just for mankind's own sake nor is it something God hasn't fully purposed. angels long to look into these things, the book says - i believe God knows and has purposed what they are being shown. i believe the Lamb was slain before the creation of the world, and He's not a band-aid on a cosmic accident as though God hadn't fully thought ought His creation and all His works and had to ad-hoc a solution.
if God doesn't have a plan for me i don't have a purpose because my purpose is to serve Him in His will. i do apologize that i didn't realize you don't make the same logical connection, but the fact He hasn't revealed all the extent of His plans to you or me doesn't mean He doesn't have any. i don't believe God exists like we humans do, just waiting to see what the day will bring and addressing issues as they arise. i believe God creates the days and that He does so with perfect intention.
if God doesn't have a plan for me i don't have a purpose because my purpose is to serve Him in His will. i do apologize that i didn't realize you don't make the same logical connection, but the fact He hasn't revealed all the extent of His plans to you or me doesn't mean He doesn't have any. i don't believe God exists like we humans do, just waiting to see what the day will bring and addressing issues as they arise. i believe God creates the days and that He does so with perfect intention.
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No, they did not create their son. They just had sex and the rest was a natural process without their control.
Jesus is born from Father, the rest is created (from nothing, as the quantum mechanics also seems to prove).
Therefore Jesus has the same properties as Father has, but creation not, creation is limited, not perfect and prone to evil.
Jesus is born from Father, the rest is created (from nothing, as the quantum mechanics also seems to prove).
Therefore Jesus has the same properties as Father has, but creation not, creation is limited, not perfect and prone to evil.