trump is the antichrist

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As the white father of 2 adopted multi racial children I am very sensitized to racism. To claim any person is a racist is an explosive statement requiring verifiable proof. I have seen none in Trump!!

Bring forth your proof or be condemned as a liar. The board is waiting!!

The word "racist" is being thrown around today just like "love" and "peace" was thrown around in the 70s. I despise that use of that word whenever people have no facts nor a true platform to back it up. That word is being used as a tool to divide.
 
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The word "racist" is being thrown around today just like "love" and "peace" was thrown around in the 70s. I despise that use of that word whenever people have no facts nor a true platform to back it up. That word is being used as a tool to divide.
" Whenever people have no facts nor a true platform to back back it up" Are you saying that this is the definition of racism???
 

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" Whenever people have no facts nor a true platform to back back it up" Are you saying that this is the definition of racism???

I'm saying what I said. That word "racist" is thrown out like the word love is thrown out, carelessly and without merit at times.
 

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SATIRE - But then, this whole thread is a SATIRE

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I mean, everyone knows who the ANTI-CHRIST is right? It's the PAPACY, the roman church state system. There's NO need to involve ourselves with STUPID politics right? Well at least a Christ follower need not entangle oneself with what these idiot's are trying to forward down here on the earth, for our SAVIOR has stated, "MY KINGDOM is NOT of THIS WORLD" and "render to Caesar, that which is Caesar's and unto GOD that which is GOD'S". Clearly Jesus has drawn a clear line of distinction between TWO KINGDOMS....the one here on earth and HIS KINGDOM. No where in HIS HOLY WORD, are the two EVER COMBINED.
Unfortunately, what does HISTORY tell us? That this IS EXACTLY what the ROMAN church has done, one need only look to the DARK AGES. Where "churchcraft and statecraft" were COMBINED and the monarchs and nobility were USED by the CHURCH to further their aims.
How do we know that this church is what the apostle Paul warned us about in 2 Thessalonians 2:4-5, when he stated, "let NO man DECEIVE you, by any means, for that DAY (the DAY Jesus returns to resurrect the dead) shall not come, except there be a FALLING AWAY first **APOSTASY, which means falling away from BIBLICAL TRUTH** and that MAN of SIN **the papacy** be revealed, the SON of PERDITION, who opposes and EXALTS HIMSELF above all that is called GOD or that is worshipped, so that he sits as GOD in the temple of GOD, showing HIMSELF that he is GOD". We must remember that when the apostle Paul wrote 2 Thessalonians, the jewish temple was still standing and that it wasn't destroyed until 70 A.D. Our SAVIOR had foretold of the destruction of Jerusalem, when HIS disciples gathered about HIM on mount Olivet. "Verily verily, I say unto you, NOT one stone shall be left on another, that shall not be thrown down". The TEMPLE being talked about is NOT a LITERAL TEMPLE building. But IS SPIRITUAL, "know ye not that ye ARE the TEMPLE of the LIVING GOD and that the SPIRIT of the LIVING GOD dwells in ye ".
And in another place Jesus says in John 2:19-20 "Jesus answered and said to them, destroy THIS TEMPLE, and in 3 days I will raise it up. But HE was speaking of HIS BODY". The Greek word for SPIRITUAL temple is "NAOS", which differs from the PHYSICAL word for temple which is "HIERON", example John 2:14. Whenever the NAOS is used, it's speaking of the FOLLOWERS of Jesus, the church but it's NOT a PHYSICAL building, but SPIRITUAL. So the BIBLE student, (lead of the LORD'S SPIRIT) and NOT someone casually reading HIS WORD just to get some interesting facts, WILL understand that this "TEMPLE" , ISN'T a FUTURE TEMPLE that one day's going to be built over in the middle East as MOST of the Christian world TODAY teaches. BUT IS the "CHURCH of Jesus Christ" and HIS FOLLOWERS which constitute THIS TEMPLE.
Sadly MOST of the EVANGELICAL/PROTESTANT churches "have swallowed hook line and sinker", the JESUIT fairytale of FUTURISM, which says that the ANTI-CHRIST is way far in the future and that the Christian church will be RAPTURED home to glory, all while the TRUE ANTI-CHRIST **the papacy** has been doing it's baleful work all along in the church. This shows that the ANTI-CHRIST WILL infiltrate and sit in the Christian church.
As you and I read the book of Daniel, everyone can see how GOD has foretold the FUTURE (prophecy), which shows the kingdoms which would rule until the GOD of HEAVEN sets up HIS ETERNAL KINGDOM. But one of the MAIN CHARACTERISTICS that THE LORD gives us is in Daniel chapter 7:25, which says about the "little horn" (the papacy), "he SHALL THINK to CHANGE times and LAW'S"!!!!! ! Which LAW'S, it can't be man's law's because there ALWAYS CHANGING. This is describing the POWER who THINKS he can CHANGE the LAW of GOD.....HIS 10 COMMANDMENTS, which IS THE FOUNDATION of the GOVERNMENT of GOD! Has the catholic church CHANGED the LAW of GOD? Sure, research is very easy to do now a days. They have transferred the solemnity from HIS HOLY SABBATH DAY, the SEVENTH DAY of the week, our fri night sundown to our sat night sundown.....to the first day of the week which is our SUNDAY and ALSO they've CHANGED HIS second commandment, which FORBIDS IMAGE WORSHIP.
So sad, I was born and raised in this church but NEVER was encouraged to OPEN for myself and to read, study HIS HOLY WORD. As MOST catholics WILL attest to this fact, but Jesus has wonderfully led me to a correct understanding of WHO HE IS and HIS LOVE and leading is awesome.
 
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I'm NOT talking about him.
So you are not saying that anyone that holds to a futurist view of Revelation is Jesuit-inspired? It sure looked like that was what you were saying. You know, Jesuit' fairy tale of futurism. I'll grant your comments are difficult to follow, but it seems you believe the church will go through the tribulation (assuming you believe in one) and that those that believe in a rapture are inspired by Jesuits.
 

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So you are not saying that anyone that holds to a futurist view of Revelation is Jesuit-inspired? It sure looked like that was what you were saying. You know, Jesuit' fairy tale of futurism. I'll grant your comments are difficult to follow, but it seems you believe the church will go through the tribulation (assuming you believe in one) and that those that believe in a rapture are inspired by Jesuits.
I'm saying that they have been disgustingly DECEIVED into believing unsound teachings which have been started by two jesuit priests.
 

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I'm saying that they have been disgustingly DECEIVED into believing unsound teachings which have been started by two jesuit priests.
Yes the church of Jesus Christ WILL go THROUGH the TRIBULATION before HE returns to take those that are HIS to glory.
 
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Paul was such a liar to tell people to comfort one another with these words about the rapture. Good thing God has you to straighten the Bible out.
 

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I'm saying that they have been disgustingly DECEIVED into believing unsound teachings which have been started by two jesuit priests.
Where in the WORD of GOD does ANYONE find THE GOD of HEAVEN delivering HIS people FROM TRIBULATION? NO WHERE! GOD ALWAYS delivers or brings HIS people THROUGH the TRIBULATIONS. Right? It's part of HIM testing them as to whether or not they'll listen to and heed HIS COMMANDMENTS, statutes and precepts. This is shown as Moses led the children of Israel through the wilderness......40 years!!!
GOD NEVER intended for them to be in the wilderness for that amount of time. But what does the apostle Paul say, because of UNBELIEVE they entered NOT into the land flowing with milk and honey.
 

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Paul was such a liar to tell people to comfort one another with these words about the rapture. Good thing God has you to straighten the Bible out.
Aren't you taking the verse of of CONTEXT? If we back up, what's being conveyed to us believers?
 
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GOD ALWAYS delivers or brings HIS people THROUGH the TRIBULATIONS. Right? It's part of HIM testing them as to whether or not they'll listen to and heed HIS COMMANDMENTS, statutes and precepts. This is shown as Moses led the children of Israel through the wilderness......40 years!!!
You are using Israel's 40 years in the wilderness as an example of tribulation?

You do note that you are speaking about Israel, right? Not the New Testament church that is NOT Israel? The Tribulation is for Israel - that is why it is called the 'Times of JACOB's trouble' with definite specificity.
 

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You are using Israel's 40 years in the wilderness as an example of tribulation?

You do note that you are speaking about Israel, right? Not the New Testament church that is NOT Israel? The Tribulation is for Israel - that is why it is called the 'Times of JACOB's trouble' with definite specificity.
The church of Jesus Christ IS THE ISRAEL of GOD, WHY doesn't anyone know this out there in our world????? Oh that's right, Rome has re-written history to take the eye's of the world off of THEM, as being the ANTI-CHRIST. The apostle Paul states this and so does THE LORD throughout scripture, "their NOT ALL ISRAEL that are ISRAEL" , and "a jew isn't a jew OUTWARDLY but IS one INWARDLY, NOT according to the FLESH (ETHNICALLY, that is), but of the SPIRIT ".
 

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You are using Israel's 40 years in the wilderness as an example of tribulation?

You do note that you are speaking about Israel, right? Not the New Testament church that is NOT Israel? The Tribulation is for Israel - that is why it is called the 'Times of JACOB's trouble' with definite specificity.
I'm showing you how GOD delivers those that are HIS