Can a Christian believe in Noahs flood not being Universal?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

Locutus

Senior Member
Feb 10, 2017
5,928
685
113
#21
Could the whole world be represented by they whom God/love came to know through Adam (in the Middle East), and not the rest of humanity throughout the world who had yet to be assimilated nine generations from Adam?
Way possible.
 
S

SpoonJuly

Guest
#22
A lot of folks on this site say they are Christian while believing and teaching things that are not true.
 

glf1

Active member
Jun 10, 2018
314
124
43
#23
God, Who shows no favoritism, gave Jezabel time to repent. God gives us time to grow and learn. I have learned and changed my mind about somethings that scriptures have revealed to me. I do not think that God holds it against us during the allowed time period. But if we reach the end of our time here, and still refuse to believe what God says in His Word, then in that case yeah, we're in danger of hell fire. Because God counts disbelief the same as disobedience.[/QUOTE

Hey! OneFaith... PTL!
Your last sentence concerning disbelief and disobedience being the same; AMEN!!!
Read Heb chap 3; which refers to entering into the Lord's eternal rest, tells us:

Heb 3: 10 "Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do always err in their heart; and they have not known my ways."
(So that those who disbelieve will disobey because they do err in their hearts and fail to enter into the Lord's rest)

Heb 3: 17-19 "But with whom was he grieved forty years? Was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcasses fell in the wilderness. And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not? So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief."
(So that those who sinned and suffered mortal death, and then failed to enter into the Lord's eternal rest, where all labor has ceased; because of an evil heart of unbelief)

Maranatha!
 
Dec 12, 2013
46,515
20,402
113
#24
I really wonder why some of you even read or say you believe the bible.....the end of ALL flesh is before me and EVERYTHING that had breath under heaven DIED.....

Let's just chunk the world wide evidence as well......
 

Locutus

Senior Member
Feb 10, 2017
5,928
685
113
#26
A lot of folks on this site say they are Christian while believing and teaching things that are not true.
There may be some - I think the "a lot" you may be thinking of just have some weird views/understanding - that doesn't make them not Christians.
 

luigi

Junior Member
Dec 6, 2015
1,222
216
63
#27
I really wonder why some of you even read or say you believe the bible.....the end of ALL flesh is before me and EVERYTHING that had breath under heaven DIED.....

Let's just chunk the world wide evidence as well......
Question: Was the end of all flesh and everything that had breath before the Lord in exception to Noah and all in the ark, or was it in regards to the end of the age, and maybe even the end of the millennium, as in the reaping of everything in Revelation 14?
 
S

SpoonJuly

Guest
#28
There may be some - I think the "a lot" you may be thinking of just have some weird views/understanding - that doesn't make them not Christians.
Did not say they were not Christian, but I stick by my statement that A LOT OF FOLKS on this site believe ant teach things that are not true.
 

Nehemiah6

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2017
26,074
13,777
113
#29
Question: Was the end of all flesh and everything that had breath before the Lord in exception to Noah and all in the ark, or was it in regards to the end of the age, and maybe even the end of the millennium, as in the reaping of everything in Revelation 14?
That statement about *the end of all flesh* pertained exclusively to the Flood. Other than those who were in the Ark, every living creature perished in the Flood.

*The end of the age* pertains to the end of the Age of Grace. Once it is over, Christ comes to judge the world of the ungodly and destroy His enemies at His Second Coming.

*The end of the world* would then pertain to the supernatural burning up of the heavens and the earth by fire, in order to cleanse the earth in preparation for the New Heavens and the New Earth. See 2 Peter 3.
 

luigi

Junior Member
Dec 6, 2015
1,222
216
63
#30
How do people here explain the aborigines in Australia, the indigenous people in South America, Asians and Africans who seem to precede an approximate 5,000 year ago flood?
 
Dec 12, 2013
46,515
20,402
113
#31
Question: Was the end of all flesh and everything that had breath before the Lord in exception to Noah and all in the ark, or was it in regards to the end of the age, and maybe even the end of the millennium, as in the reaping of everything in Revelation 14?
Everything except that which was on the ark..........
 
Dec 12, 2013
46,515
20,402
113
#32
How do people here explain the aborigines in Australia, the indigenous people in South America, Asians and Africans who seem to precede an approximate 5,000 year ago flood?
Do you know that Aboriginal art work is in Egypt and Egyptian hieroglyphics in Australia?
The earth was one land mass at one time.......and there is NO solid evidence that any race or nation predates the flood......God wiped ALL evidence of said nations and people out by the flood...

Peter tells us clearly the world that then was PERISHED in the flood.......
 
7

7seasrekeyed

Guest
#35
If the bible errs on the flood, then what else did it err on? You can't pick and choose what you accept from the bible. It has to stand as totally reliable or totally unreliable. If unreliable maybe it got salvation wrong. Making the bible unreliable in one part can only lead to skepticism in EVERY part. It is 100% reliable.

And besides, sea fossils have been found in the Grand Canyon.

well no

it's not the Bible. it is the understanding of those handling the Bible

people

people are unreliable

no need to drive the car off the cliff
 

GraceAndTruth

Well-known member
Sep 28, 2015
2,031
637
113
#36
well no

it's not the Bible. it is the understanding of those handling the Bible

people

people are unreliable

no need to drive the car off the cliff
from your response I think you missed the original post that I was responding to, because I have no idea what you are protesting.
 

luigi

Junior Member
Dec 6, 2015
1,222
216
63
#37
Do you know that Aboriginal art work is in Egypt and Egyptian hieroglyphics in Australia?
The earth was one land mass at one time.......and there is NO solid evidence that any race or nation predates the flood......God wiped ALL evidence of said nations and people out by the flood...

Peter tells us clearly the world that then was PERISHED in the flood.......
Hello dcontroversal, If homo sapiens according to the archaeological record have been around for circa 200, 000 years, why then would the Lord all of a sudden circa 5.000 years ago decide man was so corrupt that he needed to be destroyed at that point 5,000 years ago? Why was man (without God) so much more corrupt 5,000 years ago than he was 10, 20, or 100 thousand years ago? Answer: Homo Sapiens prior to circa 6000 years ago had not been created in the image of the Lord (His Spirit of love); and indigenous peoples of the world prior to circa 5000 BC would not have had His Spirit of love, and would therefore not have been deemed culpable of corruption without God.
 

Hevosmies

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2018
3,612
2,633
113
#39
The Bible predicts that people would start denying the flood in the end times. FULFILLED PROPHECY:

2Pe 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
2Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

Surprise surprise. Bible is right (again) and liberal watered down christians are wrong(again).
 

luigi

Junior Member
Dec 6, 2015
1,222
216
63
#40
The Bible predicts that people would start denying the flood in the end times. FULFILLED PROPHECY:

2Pe 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
2Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
I completely believe and acknowledge an earth in accretion with water at its inception. How do scoffers walking after their own lusts correlate with denying the flood during the end of the age under Satan?