Book of Daniel, the key to eschatology
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SpoonJuly
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In 212 to 500 the creeds were created that stated the beliefs a person must have to be a Christian. Anything contrary to them is heresy. Any Biblical issue outside them is agree to disagree. There are a whole lot of issues that are agree to disagree. That is why there are so many gospel preaching denominations. Calvinism vs Arminianism is an example. Totally opposing issues with lots of scripture to back them up.
Two or three walking together in agreement to the word of God means he is there . Two or three, a family make a denomination as part of the whole bride the church .
Safety in numbers? Perhaps but no law. When David numbered thousands died.
Our agreement is with God and not each other private interpretations. The Bible warns us of those who say we need a man seen to teach us a description of the antichrists the many that are here. Standing in the holy place of God.
Is it Calvinism or Arminianism or both that totally opposes issues with lots of scripture to back them up?
Trust me, the numbers add up perfectly, both the question and the answer are in Daniel, yet the key to solving it is in Revelation- the number 666.
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eternally-gratefull
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I hope you did bring my insult to the mods. In Fact, Maybe i shoud being your lie to the mods since as usual you refuse to admit when you made an error. (Actually I do not have to now. SInce you reported. They have seen it themselves. So again, Thank you) You could have easily said you were sorry. But no
You have to mock again. I could really care less what you believe, I have stated numerous times this topic is not even salvic and we should not attack people because of what they believe.
So for the record. I showed three times what my beef with you was. (It has nothign to do wiht your belief) it was what you stated (your mockiing statment that I did not care about the new heavens and earth)
So just remember, in the future when you do this, I will be reporting (since evidently you think it is ok to mock people. Which I have wintnessed numerous times)
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eternally-gratefull
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Why is it anytime we discuss this topic it gets to the point where people attack and mock each other? And why is it NO ONE is humble enough to admit when they made a mistake? Is this topic so important we think we have to push out view on the others because if they do nto repent they will go to hell? It makes us look bad. The world laughs at us when we do stuff like this!
The ole proverbial statement about NERO fiddling while Rome burns......the inability to admit error is so ingrained in men that even ADAM and EVE after one sin had to pass the buck.....and notice how children can be caught in the act and will deny like their life depends on it........
You know....In almost 5 years on this site I have only reported someone maybe 6 times.....so rare that I cannot exactly number it.....and I know a few of those times was when we had a whack job posting porn or something like that......
Actually it is not too bad when one considers the N.T. and how angry the religious got over the truth.....they beat men, stoned men, imprisoned men, crucified men, ostracized men, broke families apart etc..........With what is coming down the pipe for all who name JESUS.....one would think that we ALL would not be that easily offended over words on a page, because if we cannot give and take a little heat on a website with just words on page.....we "gonna" be in big trouble when the crap really hits the fan for ALL of us.....
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eternally-gratefull
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I have threatened more than I have done it. I am sure the mods would get mad if we reported every time we threaten..lol But this attitude of blame shifting drives me crazy!
If you did something wrong, and someone calls you out. Be a man and fess up to it. Stop blaming everyone else..
That the Jews chose to continue in their temple sacrifice is not important, no more imortant than their rejection of Christ as Messiah.
You are right when you say the NEED ceased to exist. The old covenant was over, the new covenant begun at the death of the ONE who made it. (Hebrews 9:16 For where a covenant is, there must of necessity be the death of the one who made it.)
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eternally-gratefull
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It is very important Especially since the book of daniel was written to them, And we have to interpret the passage AS THEY WOULD.
Plus, It does nto say THE NEED for sacrifice and burnt offering were stopped It says The sacrifices THEMSELVES were stopped.
Plus we have historical precidence of the prince of Greece who Stopped Sacrifice and burnt offering by sacrificing a pig in the most holy place (the term jesus actually uses when he mentions the abomination of desolation spoken of by daniel)
The fact is, Sacrifice and burnt offering did not stop with Jesus death, period.. So so ay it was is to ignore history
have it your way, but I am a furturist in eschatology so we won't be agreeing anyway
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eternally-gratefull
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Have it my way?
Lol.
I am a futurist myself.
And if you were a futurist, you would easily see Jesus did not stop sacrifice and burnt offering, You would know the abomination of desolation is what ceases sacrifice and burnt offering. And we would be in agreement
I agree, tanakh, that one likes to argue, nitpick and insult. You have good sound views that I appreciate and you are always very nice.
one last reply............silly me, I wrote furturist and meant historist. I used to be futurist before I quit reading Ha Lindsey and other apostates and actually did a study on Daniel and Revelation. Baby Christians can be misled until they mature.
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eternally-gratefull
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Thats what I thought.
I am a futurist, and never read lindsey and all that other stuff. And don;t worry, Those people can not Mislead people and send them to hell. This is not a gospel issue,, Both futurists and preterists will be in heaven..
Anyway, I just read the word. And when I read anything I always put it up next to the words. And interpreted it that way.
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eternally-gratefull
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So him lieing or trying to decieve people about what others really believe does not bother you?
Well thats good to know. And I may add sad,
I agree with alot of people. But when they lie about others, or foolishly attack them, with decieveing falst truths, I still confront them on the issue, Otherwise I am no better than they are
The key to eschatology is seeking to understand the phrase "last day". We are in the last time, it began when Christ said "it is finished" the beginning of the reformation,.(Hebrew 9). What will occur on the last day when the Sun and moon are no longer needed as time keepers?
Why not the Amil eschatology?
Why not the Amil eschatology?
The abomination of desolation. The time period when there were Kings in Israel ended when the time of reformation had come. The shadows seen the temporal... became the substance of our new faith, the eternal not seen .