Is believing in white supremacy in line with following God?

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The cohesion of a country is based on shared values, beliefs, vision and culture it is not about the colour of the person's skin.

It's laws and culture are white
The laws are based on a Judaeo-Christian ethic, however there is no "white" culture.

Coming from a European background, I can certainly state that Italians, French, English and German had very different cultures and they really did not like each other all that much historically speaking.
 

GraceAndTruth

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Somebody might ask do Christians feel like the current leader of this country Is GODly?Incoming,duck down.
We don't live in a Theocracy. We've never had a "godly" president. I'll take a smart secular leader over a stupid "chistian" person. I don't want a "christian" leader making decisions based on some BAD doctrine. Being "christian" is in the eye of the adherents, not all christians would be in agreement on national issues any more than they agree on doctrine.

If this is a passive/agressive form of slamming President Trump then you might look into the history of past presidents and find very few that did not have some scandal attached to him and more than a few whose filthy mouths would shock most people.

And we need to remember that God gives us leaders Rom 13:1
 

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The cohesion of a country is based on shared values, beliefs, vision and culture it is not about the colour of the person's skin.



The laws are based on a Judaeo-Christian ethic, however there is no "white" culture.

Coming from a European background, I can certainly state that Italians, French, English and German had very different cultures and they really did not like each other all that much historically speaking.
I disagree. The Europeans who came to America had a culture and it blended into an American culture but it was white. As they were white. And, the cohesion of a country is definitely affected by race.

The fact that God Christianized Europe, gave the Europeans their Judaeo-Christian ethic.

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GraceAndTruth

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established by a european race that practiced genocide on the native americans who were already living here..........
That is some REALLY BAD history.....more llike the re-written histories our poor kids are getting in school today.
 

GraceAndTruth

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Native people......so far as I know from history there were no "native" people in the Americas, north or south. Everyone came from somewhere else, some just got here before others.
 
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I disagree. The Europeans who came to America had a culture and it blended into an American culture but it was white. As they were white. And, the cohesion of a country is definitely affected by race.

The fact that God Christianized Europe, gave the Europeans their Judaeo-Christian ethic.

Quantrill
There is no "white" culture, have you ever been to Europe?

If they blended in, it was because they shared the same values and ethics based on a Judaeo-Christian ethic (ie the ten commandments) and English Common Law.

Morals, values and ethics cut across cultural differences, which is what binds a nation or a group of people.

The problem with North American society presently is that not only are there various cultures, but some of the cultures do not share the same morals, ethics or values.....which is Diversity.
 
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Native people......so far as I know from history there were no "native" people in the Americas, north or south. Everyone came from somewhere else, some just got here before others.
Well by this logic then the only true natives were Adam and Eve since they did not come from somewhere else. :)
 
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That is some REALLY BAD history.....more llike the re-written histories our poor kids are getting in school today.
Do you deny what the Jacksonian Democrats did to the Native Americans?
 

Quantrill

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There is no "white" culture, have you ever been to Europe?

If they blended in, it was because they shared the same values and ethics based on a Judaeo-Christian ethic (ie the ten commandments) and English Common Law.

Morals, values and ethics cut across cultural differences, which is what binds a nation or a group of people.

The problem with North American society presently is that not only are there various cultures, but some of the cultures do not share the same morals, ethics or values.....which is Diversity.
No white culture? Are there any white people in Europe?

Every European country will have its own culture, yes. But it will be a white culture.

Yes, God Christianized Europe, instead of Asia, or Africa or anywhere else. That was awful racist of Him, don't you think?

Diversity is destroying the country. I agree. I have always said that.

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it's really quite simple, God's ways are Holy -
man's ways are always 'un-holy'...
if one has been called, given and blessed with Holy power'
then they are able to 'break-away'...
 

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Do you deny what the Jacksonian Democrats did to the Native Americans?
do you deny what the First Peoples did to the Europeans??
And knowing that history I'd say that living in those times with those problems, something had to be done....even if it was wrong.
I have more sympathy for the Seminoles.
 

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Some how I see a contradiction, do you?
maybe not if we use the right definition of "white" lol

there He was transfigured before them.
His face shone like the sun, and His clothes became as white as the light!
(Matthew 17:2)
 

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melita916

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What is white culture?

I’m for real asking. It’s not a rhetorical question lol
 

GraceAndTruth

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First Europeans to establish a successful colony in America were the Pilgrims to Plymouth, later came the Puritans to Massachursetts Bay. Neither murdered "indigenous people" All were calvinists..........yeahhhh.

There was a spirit of co-operation between the settlers and their neighbors that lasted years. However, some of the IP's were NOT happy that they had to share and attacked the settlers. (very naughty of them) The neighbor tribes defended the settlers and did some trading with them, not for trinkets but for food and other things.

First real trouble came when the French stirred up the IP's to war against the settlers (over land of course, the French wanted it ALL), this was called King Phillip's War. Wikipedia has a good source for information on that war. However we know that while the French had IP allies, the Settlers also had their IP allies.

Education is a wonderful thing :love:
 
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Some how I see a contradiction, do you?
Peter said that God is no respecter of persons, but in every nation those that fear Him, and work righteousness, is accepted by Him.

God said there is no difference between the Jew and the Gentile, and if anybody had more of a right to be racist it would be the Jews, and not even they can do that.

God said what makes you to differ from another person.

All have sinned and come short of the glory of God.

To God all people are equal in His eyes, and does not favor one ethnic group above the other, and when a Gentile is saved they become a Jew inward, and part of the commonwealth of Israel.

God goes by wrong and right, and looks on the inner man, the heart.

But it is strange how some people say, oh those white people, oh those black people, whenever one of them does something wrong, as if to label them all like that when it is only a few, or to want to cut them down for their action as inferior to their ethnic group.

Which is strange because all ethnic groups act the same way in their behavior, all the while pointing their finger at other ethnic groups saying they are inferior because of the same behavior.

God said that they accuse and excuse each other, for they point their finger at other people accusing them, and then make excuses for themselves, and their people, all the while all people of the world have the same behavior.

Our attitude should not be, oh those white people, oh those black people, but those people did not do right, and not try to act like an ethnic group is inferior, when our own ethnic group does the same thing.

It is like they say concerning the Jews, that they try to Jew you down in a business transaction, and money hungry, as if no other ethnic group ever did that, especially in America.

But that is the world, and arrogance does not care about it's fault, but wants to dog and belittle people, and make them out to be inferior, as if their own people never did anything wrong.

For that is the only way an ethnic group could be superior is if they all acted right, and never did wrong, but we know that is not true.

A white person says something dumb, or does something dumb, and some black people say, oh those silly white people instead of singling them out, and leave the rest out of it that have nothing to do with it, and vice versa.

But I have to say this.

All nations, and ethnic groups, push for power, but if they do not have the power they cry oppression, and they are cruel, but if they had the power they would push it too.

There is no oppression, or prejudice, that goes on concerning black people in America, but what occurs among people that happens in all nations that have different ethnic groups.

Black people can be business owners, land owners, judges, lawyers, cops, movie and television stars, sports stars, famous musicians, millionaires, billionaires, among other things that are to their well being.

What oppression are they talking about.

And white guilt does not apply for nobody is responsible for anyone else's sins, but their own sins, for that was their sins in the past, not in the future.

If someone says white guilt, then any black person that did a white person wrong, then they are all guilty, and no time limit set on it.

White privilege does not apply, for blacks will give blacks privilege, and Latinos will give Latinos privilege, and Asians will give Asians privilege.

All nations, and ethnic groups, push for power, but if they do not have the power they cry oppression, and they are cruel, but if they had the power they would push it too.

The world will not play fair, but it is based on exaltation, and their faults does not matter when they want to exalt, as they put down other ethnic groups and make them out to be inferior, all the while their own people do the same things.

If a person acts like they are superior to another ethnic group then it is arrogance, and not of God.

Do black and white people steal, kill, rape, do drugs, alcohol, fight, act dumb at times, ignorant at times, hustle, are sexually immoral, and things of the flesh, and world.

They do, so what are they talking about superior over another ethnic group, and oh those white people, and oh those black people.

For God sees it according to how we conduct ourselves.

But the world knows they sin, and they will try to exalt themselves above each other in the ways of money, material things, physical ability, and intelligent ability, believing their ethnic group is better overall because of that, or some reason.

But then it is the same thing, for not everybody in one ethnic group is all the best at intelligence, strength, and athletic ability, and money, and material things, the same as not one ethnic group all does good all the time, and never wrong.
 

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2 kings 2:23 ,,,It's impossible to mock someone for being bald,blonde,freckle faced,red haired ect. because what it will always boil down to is none of us had any input into our makers design so the issue is in discrepancy with our maker.