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This is precisely what James stated had happened in his day when he quoted Amos:
Acts 15:14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.
Acts 15:15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,
Acts 15:16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
Acts 15:17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
The gentile were brought because the tabernacle was built up - the promise was fulfilled.
James was quoting from the Septuagint:
Amos 9:11 In that day I will raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and will rebuild the ruins of it, and will set up the parts thereof that have been broken down, and will build it up as in the ancient days: 12 that the remnant of men, and all the Gentiles upon whom my name is called, may earnestly seek me, saith the Lord who does all these things.
This kills dispensationalism in one fell swoop
Acts 15:14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.
Acts 15:15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,
Acts 15:16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
Acts 15:17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
The gentile were brought because the tabernacle was built up - the promise was fulfilled.
James was quoting from the Septuagint:
Amos 9:11 In that day I will raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and will rebuild the ruins of it, and will set up the parts thereof that have been broken down, and will build it up as in the ancient days: 12 that the remnant of men, and all the Gentiles upon whom my name is called, may earnestly seek me, saith the Lord who does all these things.
This kills dispensationalism in one fell swoop
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I’m curious as to why you think “in that day” means 2000+ years later.
For one, Hosea says that in that he would raise up the tabernacle of David and we are told in Acts that “that day” was fulfilled at the first coming of Christ.
Secondly, “that day” is talking about the same day that God pronounced the end of his people Israel.
For one, Hosea says that in that he would raise up the tabernacle of David and we are told in Acts that “that day” was fulfilled at the first coming of Christ.
Secondly, “that day” is talking about the same day that God pronounced the end of his people Israel.
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What do we do with these scriptures then.
Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
God will restore the kingdom on earth to Israel.
Jer 46:28 Fear thou not, O Jacob my servant, saith the LORD: for I am with thee; for I will make a full end of all the nations whither I have driven thee: but I will not make a full end of thee, but correct thee in measure; yet will I not leave thee wholly unpunished.
God will make an end of all Gentile nations, their ruling governments, but not make a full end of Israel.
Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
Israel is blinded in part, until salvation is no longer available to the Gentiles, and so all Israel shall be saved.
Eze 39:21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.
Eze 39:22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.
Eze 39:23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.
Eze 39:24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.
The Lord Will Restore Israel
Eze 39:25 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;
Eze 39:26 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid.
Eze 39:27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
Eze 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.
Eze 39:29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.
God will bring the whole house of Israel back to their land, all 12 tribes, and leave none of them in the nations, and Israel shall know the LORD their God from that day forward, and He will never hide His face from them, and Israel as a nation will then be in the truth and never stray again.
Which could not be a past prophecy for then Israel would be in the truth today.
When the world comes together and says Peace and safety as they try to establish peace on earth, the Gentiles will cause all Jews to go to Israel, and they will not be left in the nations anymore, and then God will restore the kingdom to Israel.
It appears God will not do away with Israel, but restore the kingdom on earth to the Jews, and Israel will be the only operating nation, and government.
Jesus said salvation is of the Jews, and Israel can never be done away with, for they are world without end, and the New Jerusalem is patterned after Israel, for the 12 tribes of Israel, and the 12 apostles of the Lamb, are written in the New Jerusalem.
Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
God will restore the kingdom on earth to Israel.
Jer 46:28 Fear thou not, O Jacob my servant, saith the LORD: for I am with thee; for I will make a full end of all the nations whither I have driven thee: but I will not make a full end of thee, but correct thee in measure; yet will I not leave thee wholly unpunished.
God will make an end of all Gentile nations, their ruling governments, but not make a full end of Israel.
Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
Israel is blinded in part, until salvation is no longer available to the Gentiles, and so all Israel shall be saved.
Eze 39:21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.
Eze 39:22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.
Eze 39:23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.
Eze 39:24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.
The Lord Will Restore Israel
Eze 39:25 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;
Eze 39:26 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid.
Eze 39:27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
Eze 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.
Eze 39:29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.
God will bring the whole house of Israel back to their land, all 12 tribes, and leave none of them in the nations, and Israel shall know the LORD their God from that day forward, and He will never hide His face from them, and Israel as a nation will then be in the truth and never stray again.
Which could not be a past prophecy for then Israel would be in the truth today.
When the world comes together and says Peace and safety as they try to establish peace on earth, the Gentiles will cause all Jews to go to Israel, and they will not be left in the nations anymore, and then God will restore the kingdom to Israel.
It appears God will not do away with Israel, but restore the kingdom on earth to the Jews, and Israel will be the only operating nation, and government.
Jesus said salvation is of the Jews, and Israel can never be done away with, for they are world without end, and the New Jerusalem is patterned after Israel, for the 12 tribes of Israel, and the 12 apostles of the Lamb, are written in the New Jerusalem.
I had one anti-semetic, replacement theologian, try and tell me the 1st gathering of Israel in Isaiah 11 was the 70 people that went to Egypt under Jacob, and the second was after Babylon, even though they weren't even a nation when Jacob went. The 1st was Babylon, the second started in 1948.
Of course this is ridiculous, but they are blinded by their hatred of the Jews. I know I know. They will tell you till they are blue in the face that they don't hate the Jews, but they absolutely do. This vile doctrine was responsible for many pogroms and abuses AND THE HOLOCAUST, (which some deny or minimize) of Jews.
Isaiah 11:
11 It shall come to pass in that day
That the Lord shall set His hand again the second time
To recover the remnant of His people who are left,
From Assyria and Egypt,
From Pathros and Cush,
From Elam and Shinar,
From Hamath and the [d]islands of the sea.
12 He will set up a banner for the nations,
And will [e]assemble the outcasts of Israel,
And gather together the dispersed of Judah
From the four [f]corners of the earth.
The 1st regathering was after Babylon, the second started in 1948.
Of course this is ridiculous, but they are blinded by their hatred of the Jews. I know I know. They will tell you till they are blue in the face that they don't hate the Jews, but they absolutely do. This vile doctrine was responsible for many pogroms and abuses AND THE HOLOCAUST, (which some deny or minimize) of Jews.
Isaiah 11:
11 It shall come to pass in that day
That the Lord shall set His hand again the second time
To recover the remnant of His people who are left,
From Assyria and Egypt,
From Pathros and Cush,
From Elam and Shinar,
From Hamath and the [d]islands of the sea.
12 He will set up a banner for the nations,
And will [e]assemble the outcasts of Israel,
And gather together the dispersed of Judah
From the four [f]corners of the earth.
The 1st regathering was after Babylon, the second started in 1948.
And you think that Jesus didn't tell them when he would restore the kingdom in that verse but he did when he told the disciples in parable form - "after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you". That is the kingdom of God that comes without observance.
According to Amos and several other passages that aren't as easy to see, God isn't going to restore the earthly kingdom to Israel. Amos makes it crystal clear to anyone who looks at Amos without dispensational glasses on.
God said he would make a full end of all the nations whither I have driven thee, that isn't all nations it's only the ones where they were driven.
God never said he would make a full end of spiritual Israel. The summer fruit (spiritual Israel) was gathered and then the tree was cut down.
No offence but I'm not going to respond to the rest of your post because your mind is already made up on this issue and it would be a waste of time on both our parts.
According to Amos and several other passages that aren't as easy to see, God isn't going to restore the earthly kingdom to Israel. Amos makes it crystal clear to anyone who looks at Amos without dispensational glasses on.
God said he would make a full end of all the nations whither I have driven thee, that isn't all nations it's only the ones where they were driven.
God never said he would make a full end of spiritual Israel. The summer fruit (spiritual Israel) was gathered and then the tree was cut down.
No offence but I'm not going to respond to the rest of your post because your mind is already made up on this issue and it would be a waste of time on both our parts.
Why would I retract the statement, it's in the bible. And no that verse isn't talking about the northern kingdom as some here will say, it's talking about when Christ came the first time.
Amo_8:2 And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more.
Amo_8:2 And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more.
How the heck do you replace something that never was? The flesh descendants of Israel have NEVER been God's elect.
Rom_9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
It blows my mind how people who don't even understand that there are two Israel's in the old testament have the audacity to accuse people of being anti-semetic.
Rom_9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
It blows my mind how people who don't even understand that there are two Israel's in the old testament have the audacity to accuse people of being anti-semetic.
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Paul must have been the first "anti-semite":
Gal 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
Gal 4:30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
Gal 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
Gal 4:30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
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