="Adstar, post: 3803416, member: 243243"]Oh but you have insulted me and attempted to shame me and you have lied about what i have been saying.. I at no state have ever declared that it is good to live in lawlessness.. You lied when you said i learned this from someone..
Everything God has declared it is good to do that is what we should strive to do.. Everything that God has declared against His will we should strive to avoid it..
This is exactly what I just said in response to your preaching. This is the Gospel of Christ. Why do we do these things? Because in our old life, we didn't care about what God Considered "good" or what God considered "evil". We lived by our own definition of these things and this "work" killed us.
When we repent, a requirement placed on Salvation by the Lord Jesus Christ, we no longer practice these things, but submit to God's Righteousness. As Paul teaches.
Acts 26:
19 Whereupon, O king Agrippa,
I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision:
20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea,
and then to the Gentiles, that
they should repent and
turn to God, and
do works meet for repentance.
And as Jesus said:
" And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me,
is not worthy of me."
And again: "I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish."
So your religious preaching: ""You are very wrong in proclaiming that our Works play a part in our salvation.. They don't" Is common among the great, huge religions of the land that "many" follow. But is in direct opposition to what the Word of God teaches. Jesus said if I don't "DO SOMETHING" I am not Worthy of His Grace. He said this as the Word of God which became Flesh in the person of Jesus, and as the Word of God who created all things.
Ex. 20:
6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them
that love me, and keep my commandments.
I could post volumes of scriptures which show the same thing, but if man rejects these, they will reject the rest as well.
Matt. 7 is a warning of religious men, who call Jesus Lord, Lord, which create a Path that "many" will follow. But "practice Lawlessness". If you believe Jesus isn't talking about the Laws He created for us as the Word of God, then what can I say.
As you said: Everything
God has declared it is good to do
that is what we should strive to do.. Everything that
God has declared against His will we should strive to avoid it
This is the truth. If we Love God, we will strive to do these things. We will suffer as Christ suffered "learning obedience". We will "walk even as He walked". We will "grow in the lord" unto the "perfect man".
But if we reject God's definition of Holy and Good, and create our own Holy, and our own Good, as did those in Matt. 23, rejecting the Righteousness of God as defined by His Word, then even though we call Him Lord, He doesn't know us.
BUT all our efforts at righteousness are as filthy rags to God because we humans cannot do the Law 100% correctly 100% of the time.. And thus we are doomed to eternity in the eternal lake of fire if we ever have the temerity to stand before God and seek to justify ourselves with boasts of our Law doing..
Again, this is "your" religion, not what the Word of God teaches.
Luke 13:
24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you,
will seek to enter in,
and shall not be able.
1 John2:
1 My little children, these things write I unto you,
that ye sin not. And
if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
The implication of your religion here is that God's "GOOD" Works that He created beforehand that I should walk on them are only "GOOD" until I walk in them, then they become filthy rags. This is not only false according to basic common sense, but also according to the Scriptures.
1 John 3:
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that
doeth righteousness is righteous, even as
he is righteous.
So God's Work's are Righteousness whether I believe in them, follow them, or reject them. as it is written: "
3 For what if some did not believe?
shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
4 God forbid: yea,
let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
Jesus didn't reject those in Matt 23 because they taught in Christ's name, Can you find a Law against that? He rejected them because they called Him Lord, Lord, but didn't "DO" what He said to do as the following scriptures detail.
Anyone who factors in their Law doing into the Mix of what sees them saved are doomed to be cast into the eternal lake of fire because the only way to be deemed perfect before the LORD is to rely 100% on the atonement of the LORD Jesus Christ.. Once a person included their law doing into the mix they fall away from the truth and forfit their Eternal salvation..
Again, this is the religion of the land that "many" follow. But how can I claim to trust in the atonement of the Christ, when I don't believe His Word's about who receives this atonement?
Your preaching "Once a person included their law doing into the mix they fall away from the truth and forfit their Eternal salvation" is fascinating.
So if I claim Faith in Jesus for remission of sins, and strive to do as He says and obey the Laws He created "for me" I am falling away and will lose my salvation.
But if I claim Faith in Jesus for remission of sins, but follow a religion which transgresses the Commandments of God by their own religious traditions, I have secured eternal salvation.
2 Paths. One directed by the Word of God which became Flesh, and one directed by the word of religious man.
