Need clarity regarding this Predestination thing and something related to an election?
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Let’s look at the word ‘world’ my friend. On your side of the debate, world means all mankind, and that’s all it can mean.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him.(John 1)
He was in the world...everybody whoever lived? No. He was on planet earth, terra firma, which is what world means here.
And the world was made through Him..here is one place we can see world meaning everybody whoever lived, but also all we see and do not see, the universe.
And the world did not know Him...everybody whoever lived did not know Him? No. Here world that did not know Him is the lost my friend.
Another place where world is used...
3 We give thanks to God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you, 4 since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus and the love which you have for all the saints; 5 because of the hope laid up for you in heaven, of which you previously heard in the word of truth, the gospel 6 which has come to you, just as in all the world also it is constantly bearing fruit and increasing, even as it has been doing in you also since the day you heard of it and understood the grace of God in truth;(Colossians 1)
Again, not everybody whoever lived is this bearing fruit in. Not even everybody whoever lived at the time Paul wrote this, heard the gospel, not even today has everybody whoever lived heard it before dying. I read an article where ~ 3.2 billion people have not heard the glorious gospel of Jesus.
http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/cwn/201...sus-day-to-reach-the-unreached-set-for-may-20
10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him.(John 1)
He was in the world...everybody whoever lived? No. He was on planet earth, terra firma, which is what world means here.
And the world was made through Him..here is one place we can see world meaning everybody whoever lived, but also all we see and do not see, the universe.
And the world did not know Him...everybody whoever lived did not know Him? No. Here world that did not know Him is the lost my friend.
Another place where world is used...
3 We give thanks to God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you, 4 since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus and the love which you have for all the saints; 5 because of the hope laid up for you in heaven, of which you previously heard in the word of truth, the gospel 6 which has come to you, just as in all the world also it is constantly bearing fruit and increasing, even as it has been doing in you also since the day you heard of it and understood the grace of God in truth;(Colossians 1)
Again, not everybody whoever lived is this bearing fruit in. Not even everybody whoever lived at the time Paul wrote this, heard the gospel, not even today has everybody whoever lived heard it before dying. I read an article where ~ 3.2 billion people have not heard the glorious gospel of Jesus.
http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/cwn/201...sus-day-to-reach-the-unreached-set-for-may-20
Start studying the Great White Throne Judgment and all the Old Testament prophecies of what happens after the day of the Lord. It is known as the "little season" that Satan is restored after the millennium. 
he is loosed, deceives nations, thrown into the lake of fire, THEN resurrection/GWT?
The Spirit gives fallen man wisdom to make an informed decision. Gotta laugh as that makes me wanna cry. The Spirit can only do so much, as He won’t step on people’s toes.
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The Spirit gives fallen man wisdom to make an informed decision. Gotta laugh as that makes me wanna cry. The Spirit can only do so much, as He won’t step on people’s toes.
You may already be familiar with the scripture, but the last half of Romans 7 Paul explains the very same thing happening to him as you have explained happening to you.
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