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Rightlydivided

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Nor will it...ever.....there is one means of salvation, all others are fraudulent and lead to hell!

Both O.T. saints were saved by grace through faith looking forward to the blood sacrifice and the N.T. saints look back by grace through faith to the blood sacrifice.....no such thing as different gospels for different people...!
Who said more than one means of salvation today?
 

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Who is it that you say I have deserted? Jesus Christ? How could that be? Did those that listen to Moses, desert God? Of course not....To tell anyone, that they have deserted Jesus Christ, because they follow Christ’s word, as it pertains to them, and follows his word through an apostle in which Jesus sent to him, as our apostle......is outright ridiculous
Equally, it is outright ridiculous to take personal any Scripture posted on this forum. I simply was addressing the fact that there is only ONE GOSPEL presented first in types and shadows and later through the Son.
 

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ForestGreenCook with his 3 abused texts of Scripture promoting his hyper Calvinist false gospel. 1 Corinthians 2:14 is taken completely out of its context, and he teaches that if a person simply believes in anything spiritual it means they're regenerate and on their way to heaven. Yep. Even if they've never heard of Christ or his Gospel.

Did you all know that you don't need to believe the Gospel and you still have eternal life? That's right folks, belief in his gospel only provides temporary deliverance in this world so never mind what 1 Corinthians 1:21 says, he can twist that right into a hyper Calvinist pretzel for you. Yep, the salvation in that verse? It's only a little deliverance here on earth, it doesn't save the soul.

So, concerning the Gospel? Take it or leave it, it doesn't matter one bit concerning whether you go to heaven or not. Missionaries? Wasting their time!

Another gem in his teaching is you can also live your life on the broad road to destruction; as long as you are elect yet don't believe the Gospel, don't accept Christ? It's all good, you're still going to heaven!

So, you can live like the devil, reject the Gospel, not believe in Christ, but as long as you believe spiritual things, you're in! 1 Corinthians 2:14 proves it! Isn't that wonderful? The Primitive Baptists call this teaching of theirs "attractive" and it sure is -- to the carnal.
At what point do you realize, that you pocess an inability to articulate, study, approve, edify and take the word of God seriously? I’ll give you a hint......when your ego gets in the way and you abandon self control, puffed up as though you were given something special, and treat the word as though it were a football team...You need discernment not only in scripture, but discernment in how you treat others
 

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ForestGreenCook with his 3 abused texts of Scripture promoting his hyper Calvinist false gospel. 1 Corinthians 2:14 is taken completely out of its context, and he teaches that if a person simply believes in anything spiritual it means they're regenerate and on their way to heaven. Yep. Even if they've never heard of Christ or his Gospel.

Did you all know that you don't need to believe the Gospel and you still have eternal life? That's right folks, belief in his gospel only provides temporary deliverance in this world so never mind what 1 Corinthians 1:21 says, he can twist that right into a hyper Calvinist pretzel for you. Yep, the salvation in that verse? It's only a little deliverance here on earth, it doesn't save the soul.

So, concerning the Gospel? Take it or leave it, it doesn't matter one bit concerning whether you go to heaven or not. Missionaries? Wasting their time!

Another gem in his teaching is you can also live your life on the broad road to destruction; as long as you are elect yet don't believe the Gospel, don't accept Christ? It's all good, you're still going to heaven!

So, you can live like the devil, reject the Gospel, not believe in Christ, but as long as you believe spiritual things, you're in! 1 Corinthians 2:14 proves it! Isn't that wonderful? The Primitive Baptists call this teaching of theirs "attractive" and it sure is -- to the carnal.
That's pretty good. I like that. Well said, and right smack dab on.
 

Rightlydivided

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Equally, it is outright ridiculous to take personal any Scripture posted on this forum. I simply was addressing the fact that there is only ONE GOSPEL presented first in types and shadows and later through the Son.
Hearing someone tell me that I have abandoned Jesus, my savior, is kinda personal....it is not hard to disagree without resorting to that
 

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Hearing someone tell me that I have abandoned Jesus, my savior, is kinda personal....it is not hard to disagree without resorting to that
Perhaps you need to reread my post, I never referred to you. You just took a verse I posted personally. It is not about you, it is about Jesus. Read it carefully.
 

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Keep believing that nonsense......and make no mistake about it....it is nonsense!!
It isn't nonsense......the text says what is says. Continue reading to John 3:18 ........it is a past tense verse. (have been judged)
 

GraceAndTruth

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Gospel simply meaning “the good word”
Yes, I believe there were different Gospels for different people (Jew, gentile, priests, etc) today, we have closure on one gospel pertaining to all of us, Jew or gentile, circumcised or uncircumcised
gospel means 'good news'
Good news for some, not so good for others :cry:
 

Rightlydivided

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Perhaps you need to reread my post, I never referred to you. You just took a verse I posted personally. It is not about you, it is about Jesus. Read it carefully.

After reading it again you are right, my apologies.... I misread you
 

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At what point do you realize, that you pocess an inability to articulate, study, approve, edify and take the word of God seriously? I’ll give you a hint......when your ego gets in the way and you abandon self control, puffed up as though you were given something special, and treat the word as though it were a football team...You need discernment not only in scripture, but discernment in how you treat others
Not the least bit surprised you cannot discern between going after ones teaching and ones person. Your above was an example of the latter while my post was an example of the former.

I'll continue to expose all heretics whether it be Forest or yourself. There is but one Gospel but you've been hoodwinked by dispensationalism, a false teaching that arrived on the scene in the last 100 plus years ago, yet was never a teaching of the church prior. So you falsely teach there are two, contrary to Scripture. That makes your teaching false and you heretical. Dont feel bad though, scripture forewarned us of this very thing.
 

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Equally, it is outright ridiculous to take personal any Scripture posted on this forum. I simply was addressing the fact that there is only ONE GOSPEL presented first in types and shadows and later through the Son.
I say......if the shoe fits.....wear it
 

Rightlydivided

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Not the least bit surprised you cannot discern between going after ones teaching and ones person. Your above was an example of the latter while my post was an example of the former.

I'll continue to expose all heretics whether it be Forest or yourself. There is but one Gospel but you've been hoodwinked by dispensationalism, a false teaching that arrived on the scene in the last 100 plus years ago, yet was never a teaching of the church prior. So you falsely teach there are two, contrary to Scripture. That makes your teaching false and you heretical. Dont feel bad though, scripture forewarned us of this very thing.
No, you falsely and purposefully misinterprete myself and others, in whom Jesus has taught through the Holy Spirit....This is one of the reasons Grace through faith without works, is a beautiful thing...it applies to, “you” for boasting of your works and supposed wisdom, which is folly. Your personal interpretation of scripture has already shown to be not of the spirit “today” and purely flesh as you berate others. I am guilty of improperly conducting myself in the past also, but I am not afraid to admit it, that is the difference between you and me.(and I am admittedly nothing!!).that is because the Holy Spirit holds me accountable when I am not humble, and insists I be a better example to my family, friends, brethren, those in opposition to what I believe, and you alike.
 

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Aside from His inner circle and Nicodemus, can someone show me where Jesus presented THE Gospel to the Jewish Nation?
 

GraceAndTruth

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Aside from His inner circle and Nicodemus, can someone show me where Jesus presented THE Gospel to the Jewish Nation?
How about the crowd at the loaves and fishes feast?

Have to say though, that there was no "gospel" as such (good news) until after the cross
 

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Aside from His inner circle and Nicodemus, can someone show me where Jesus presented THE Gospel to the Jewish Nation?
Respectfully, (Matthew, Luke, Mark and John) Christ’s earthly ministry
 

Ignorun

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Gospel simply meaning “the good word”
Yes, I believe there were different Gospels for different people (Jew, gentile, priests, etc) today, we have closure on one gospel pertaining to all of us, Jew or gentile, circumcised or uncircumcised
RD what were the different gospels? In trying to answer that myself, I can see how gospel given to Abraham. Maybe Noah, etc. But it was all pointing or looking to the salvation through the cross.
 

ForestGreenCook

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Yes, revealed unto Paul first, and preached unto the gentile first....

7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:)

9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
Are you still quoting from Eph 3? The KJV that I am using does not read the same in Eph3: 7,8 and 9.
 

GraceAndTruth

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Gospel went first to the Jews and then to the Gentiles
Acts is specific on this