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Its easy to be judgemental, isnt' it. The question shouldn't even be a question that is asked, "What do you think of gays". Its a loaded question and asking you to pass judgement. Doing so is not our place and it certianly is not our place to judge especilly in such a sweeping generalizing fashion.
Absolutely, judgement is reserved for God. We can discern, but we cannot judge, or we shall be judged just as harshly.
Yes some, many, if not most choose the lifestyle. Some are born that way, yes its scientific fact. Up to 2% of the population are born with with sexual organ deformaties and or chromosome mix ups you could say. Now put yourself in thier shoes. You are born, with both, or mix of sexual organs, you look female but really genetically you are a male with female sex organs. Hermaphridites are a fact of human life as it is with most life on the planet.
Being a hemaphrodite (please excuse my spelling) does not make you gay. Nor does it mean you WILL be gay. Homosexuals are NOT BORN....yes there are genetic defects, and sometimes the painful choice is made one way or the other for whether the child will be a boy or a girl....but that relates to GENDER not sexuality. Once they're defined as one way or the other, in that instance, then they should strive to live a Godly life. You ALWAYs ALWAYS have the choice nomatter what the world will try and tell you.
God created it, so is it evil? They have hormones like the rest of us, and hormones rule your day to what you think and feel.
Oh I really really hope you dont mean that!!!! Hormones do NOT rule what you think!!!! And hormones are certainly not an excuse to sin!
Now we are telling them you can't act on them becasue it would be evil.
Every single person on this planet has to deal with this hurdle....its called sex...period. The issue of hormones and sex is not exclusive to homosexuals you know!! We ALL have to deal with sexual immorality and make our choices as to whether we will follow God's instructions or not. No, you cannot always act on hormones!!!!!! Goodness, if everyone did, the world would be nothing but a mess!!! There is a thing called restraint, and we as Christians are called to practice restraint. Some people are not destined to marry, this is true, and some are called to a life of celibacy...that may seem like an impossibility to some, but sex is NOT A NEED. If you cannot follow God's laws about sex, then perhaps marriage and sexual intercourse are not on the cards for you. Jesus said "if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out. It would be better for you to enter the kingdom of heaven with one eye then to be cast into hell with two" it is better for those who may NOT have feelings for the opposite sex to live a life of holiness, a life following Jesus. Not a bad calling wouldnt you say???
Its real easy to judge or say how they should act or what they should do when you yourself have never had to deal with being born gay, or transexual or hermaphrodite.
Absolutely! I fully admit I have never been in that situation, but I DO know what the bible says...and it is absolutely 100% truth. I can rely on the Word, and the Word is clear on this subject.
I would say most Christian s are plain old ignorant of the statistical facts and base thier judgements on these people on purely dogmatic teachings of some zealous preacher.
With all due respect, you said earlier that people make unfair generalisations, and that is true, but I believe this statement would also fall into that category wouldnt it? You cannot say what "most" christians know or don't know, or how they came to their own conclusions.
You all need to wear your own clothes and not the clothes of anyother man. In other words, think for yourself, keep your witts about you, always look for a deeper understanding, pray about it. Persoanlly I find it disgusting the reaction of Christians and society in general have towards these born that way people. Some choose it, some don't. I am tired of people looking at any deformity and saying..."well they must have committed a sin or thier parents did".
Again, the distinction here is not clear. There is a DEFINITE difference between those who are born with a sexual defect, like hemaphrodites, and those who have no defect and yet become gay. If we're referring to those with a physical birth defect, then sure, we need to treat these cases sensitively. It's not the person's fault that they're born with a physical genetic defect that has truly confused their birth gender. However, if we're talking about people who for whatever reason have chosen to sleep with the opposite sex, then I'm sorry but the bible is clear on whether that is sin or not. We still have to treat them with love, same as anyone, but the act IS sin. And as for generational sin, I have never actually heard anyone say that, and I would dispute that idea with anyone.
Why do you always look for justification? Christians should reject dogmatic teachings that are generalizations of a whole group of people.
Im as against blind dogma as anyone, but you cannot dispute what the bible clearly states. You either accept it, or you don't. Simple as that. You can find a justification for just about anything you want to, but that doesnt mean God will accept that.
What do I think of gays? I don't. I know they are human, I know they can do good or bad, but who the hell are you to judge them? Take care of your own glass house.
Regards
Agnes
Absolutely, judgement is reserved for God. We can discern, but we cannot judge, or we shall be judged just as harshly.
Yes some, many, if not most choose the lifestyle. Some are born that way, yes its scientific fact. Up to 2% of the population are born with with sexual organ deformaties and or chromosome mix ups you could say. Now put yourself in thier shoes. You are born, with both, or mix of sexual organs, you look female but really genetically you are a male with female sex organs. Hermaphridites are a fact of human life as it is with most life on the planet.
Being a hemaphrodite (please excuse my spelling) does not make you gay. Nor does it mean you WILL be gay. Homosexuals are NOT BORN....yes there are genetic defects, and sometimes the painful choice is made one way or the other for whether the child will be a boy or a girl....but that relates to GENDER not sexuality. Once they're defined as one way or the other, in that instance, then they should strive to live a Godly life. You ALWAYs ALWAYS have the choice nomatter what the world will try and tell you.
God created it, so is it evil? They have hormones like the rest of us, and hormones rule your day to what you think and feel.
Oh I really really hope you dont mean that!!!! Hormones do NOT rule what you think!!!! And hormones are certainly not an excuse to sin!
Now we are telling them you can't act on them becasue it would be evil.
Every single person on this planet has to deal with this hurdle....its called sex...period. The issue of hormones and sex is not exclusive to homosexuals you know!! We ALL have to deal with sexual immorality and make our choices as to whether we will follow God's instructions or not. No, you cannot always act on hormones!!!!!! Goodness, if everyone did, the world would be nothing but a mess!!! There is a thing called restraint, and we as Christians are called to practice restraint. Some people are not destined to marry, this is true, and some are called to a life of celibacy...that may seem like an impossibility to some, but sex is NOT A NEED. If you cannot follow God's laws about sex, then perhaps marriage and sexual intercourse are not on the cards for you. Jesus said "if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out. It would be better for you to enter the kingdom of heaven with one eye then to be cast into hell with two" it is better for those who may NOT have feelings for the opposite sex to live a life of holiness, a life following Jesus. Not a bad calling wouldnt you say???
Its real easy to judge or say how they should act or what they should do when you yourself have never had to deal with being born gay, or transexual or hermaphrodite.
Absolutely! I fully admit I have never been in that situation, but I DO know what the bible says...and it is absolutely 100% truth. I can rely on the Word, and the Word is clear on this subject.
I would say most Christian s are plain old ignorant of the statistical facts and base thier judgements on these people on purely dogmatic teachings of some zealous preacher.
With all due respect, you said earlier that people make unfair generalisations, and that is true, but I believe this statement would also fall into that category wouldnt it? You cannot say what "most" christians know or don't know, or how they came to their own conclusions.
You all need to wear your own clothes and not the clothes of anyother man. In other words, think for yourself, keep your witts about you, always look for a deeper understanding, pray about it. Persoanlly I find it disgusting the reaction of Christians and society in general have towards these born that way people. Some choose it, some don't. I am tired of people looking at any deformity and saying..."well they must have committed a sin or thier parents did".
Again, the distinction here is not clear. There is a DEFINITE difference between those who are born with a sexual defect, like hemaphrodites, and those who have no defect and yet become gay. If we're referring to those with a physical birth defect, then sure, we need to treat these cases sensitively. It's not the person's fault that they're born with a physical genetic defect that has truly confused their birth gender. However, if we're talking about people who for whatever reason have chosen to sleep with the opposite sex, then I'm sorry but the bible is clear on whether that is sin or not. We still have to treat them with love, same as anyone, but the act IS sin. And as for generational sin, I have never actually heard anyone say that, and I would dispute that idea with anyone.
Why do you always look for justification? Christians should reject dogmatic teachings that are generalizations of a whole group of people.
Im as against blind dogma as anyone, but you cannot dispute what the bible clearly states. You either accept it, or you don't. Simple as that. You can find a justification for just about anything you want to, but that doesnt mean God will accept that.
What do I think of gays? I don't. I know they are human, I know they can do good or bad, but who the hell are you to judge them? Take care of your own glass house.
Regards
Agnes
Regards!
Forgiven83