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Hi Guys and Gals,
Rev 11:3 And I will give power to my two witnesses and they will prophesy for 1260 days. Rev11:6 These men have power to shut up the sky so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying."

How can the world not notice that it has not rained anywhere in the world for 1 week, 1 month, 1 year, 2 years, 3 years.
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Hi Guys and Gals,
Rev 11:3 And I will give power to my two witnesses and they will prophesy for 1260 days. Rev11:6 These men have power to shut up the sky so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying."

How can the world not notice that it has not rained anywhere in the world for 1 week, 1 month, 1 year, 2 years, 3 years.
love
edwin
Thanks Ed; food for thought. I beleive that there are 2 separate events being reffered to here. 1st; the 1260 days of prophesy to me, would be the 2 churchs that Christ approved of, would be teaching (Not preaching) the Word of God.

There is a clue, that i've just gotten through your question, as to who these witnesses are. When they are through their 1260 day teaching of latter rain; this is when they will go forward to have their MoreNatural showdown with anti-christ.

Being that we will be gathered back together in Christ, in the feild (parks) I would imagine that one of the prayer requests, for the people would naturally be, Father keep our people, safe, comforatable and Dry :D

Remember how much Care was given to Israel in the wilderness? besides the discipline. :eek:

Anyway Ed, hope i didn't confuse you, as your question helped me, Thanks.

Love and Peace Forever in CHRIST!!!:)
 
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Hi Guys and Gals,
Rev 11:3 And I will give power to my two witnesses and they will prophesy for 1260 days. Rev11:6 These men have power to shut up the sky so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying."

How can the world not notice that it has not rained anywhere in the world for 1 week, 1 month, 1 year, 2 years, 3 years.
love
edwin
Hi Ed

Its called t.v. The two witnessess will be televised world wide. They will be witnessing mainly to Israel in Israel, but also the rest of the world will be watching and mocking and recieving plagues. Israel is where all the main action will be happening. This starts in the last 3 1/2 years before Christs return and happens during the assault on Israel as prophesied in the old testament. The two witnesses are looking to be Moses and Elijah, as Satan fought over Moses' body and Elijah was picked up. These two had the same powers from the Lord as Moses turned the waters to blood and Elijah stopped the rain. They are the witnessess chosen and have witnessed the old days through to the end. Read chapter 2 in Joel regarding the attack on Israel. This is future not history. This shows that God can ressurect who-ever he wants in the flesh to serve his purpose with the rest of the Jews to follow shortly afterwards (remnant only)

Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. (This is Israel Ed)
 
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Thanks Ed; food for thought. I beleive that there are 2 separate events being reffered to here. 1st; the 1260 days of prophesy to me, would be the 2 churchs that Christ approved of, would be teaching (Not preaching) the Word of God.

There is a clue, that i've just gotten through your question, as to who these witnesses are. When they are through their 1260 day teaching of latter rain; this is when they will go forward to have their MoreNatural showdown with anti-christ.

Being that we will be gathered back together in Christ, in the feild (parks) I would imagine that one of the prayer requests, for the people would naturally be, Father keep our people, safe, comforatable and Dry :D

Remember how much Care was given to Israel in the wilderness? besides the discipline. :eek:

Anyway Ed, hope i didn't confuse you, as your question helped me, Thanks.

Love and Peace Forever in CHRIST!!!:)
Hi Glowing,
Thanks for joining in. I havn't dotted all the i's or crossed all the t 's yet in your post.
love
edwin
 
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Hi Ed

Its called t.v. The two witnessess will be televised world wide. They will be witnessing mainly to Israel in Israel, but also the rest of the world will be watching and mocking and recieving plagues. Israel is where all the main action will be happening. This starts in the last 3 1/2 years before Christs return and happens during the assault on Israel as prophesied in the old testament. The two witnesses are looking to be Moses and Elijah, as Satan fought over Moses' body and Elijah was picked up. These two had the same powers from the Lord as Moses turned the waters to blood and Elijah stopped the rain. They are the witnessess chosen and have witnessed the old days through to the end. Read chapter 2 in Joel regarding the attack on Israel. This is future not history. This shows that God can ressurect who-ever he wants in the flesh to serve his purpose with the rest of the Jews to follow shortly afterwards (remnant only)

Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. (This is Israel Ed)
Hi journey41,
Yes I imagine it is Jerusalem. I had a dream. The two witnesses will be crucified. It will be know as The Last Crucifixion.
I do wonder about the rain. One would think that the press would be full of it. Look, no rain!!!!!!!!!!! This is revelation as told in the bible. Lets all repent. How can no rain fall and people not take that as a sign?? To me it is bewildering.
love
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Hi Glowing,
Thanks for joining in. I havn't dotted all the i's or crossed all the t 's yet in your post.
love
edwin
Hi Ed, sorry, i kinda thought my response was rather scattered. I know you prefer things from the Book, Unfortunatley i'm not a teacher, just a sharer. Rather than go into a lot of detail myself, i'll offer my teachers study on these verses. Just in case your interested. If not, no big deal.

Love and Peace Forever in CHRIST!!!:)


 
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I think it would be kinda hard for anybody not to notice, you got TV, Computers, satelites, weekly new, nightly news, global news, we have the ability through television ( and all the technology that goes with that), to see anything happening in any part of the world when its happening, and everyday it only grows, so....I think folks will be able to notice. Sadly, yes, some will not see that as a sign.
 
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Hi Guys and Gals,

Rev 11:3 And I will give power to my two witnesses and they will prophesy for 1260 days.

Rev11:6 These men have power to shut up the sky so that it will not rain during the time

they are prophesying."

How can the world not notice that it has not rained anywhere in the world for 1 week, 1

month, 1 year, 2 years, 3 years.


Dear ed, I believe it would be better to be humble before God and leave the book of

Revelation alone as an unsolved, if not unsolvable, mystery'


. Most of the book remains incomprehensible, as the time of the end is not

yet with us. Who these 2 individuals are, besides Enoch and Elijah, seems to remain

for future history to fulfill. If Enoch and Elijah, that would make sense, but the important

thing is, these will be two Christian men. And Jews probably. It is better to leave the

book of Revelation for God to reveal, and not to try to deceive the whole world with

false prophecies and false twistings of the Book of Revelation. It is dangerous to

read this book, and even more dangerous to believe one has finally figured it all out.

All interpreters up to the current day have left much unrevealed. Much is still unknown

about the future of planet Earth. This is all in God's good, loving hands. In Erie PA

Scott R. Harrington

 
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it says they will have the power to stop the rain, not that they will stop it for all of those days in one go
 
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Hi Guys and Gals,
Rev 11:3 And I will give power to my two witnesses and they will prophesy for 1260 days. Rev11:6 These men have power to shut up the sky so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying."

How can the world not notice that it has not rained anywhere in the world for 1 week, 1 month, 1 year, 2 years, 3 years.
love
edwin
Curious

Before the coming of the anti christ there will be a three year famine where no rain will fall on the last year.
 
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Hi Guys and Gals,
Rev 11:3 And I will give power to my two witnesses and they will prophesy for 1260 days. Rev11:6 These men have power to shut up the sky so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying."

How can the world not notice that it has not rained anywhere in the world for 1 week, 1 month, 1 year, 2 years, 3 years.
love
edwin
When I am reading posts on Christian Chat, I am pretty much oblivious to what is going on around me.
 
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it says they will have the power to stop the rain, not that they will stop it for all of those days in one go
I think this is pretty much it. If they simply shut the sky and leave it there, nobody will attribute that to them... or even listen to them, as everybody will be running around dying of hunger from the lack of food crops. There's no message there, just chaos.

If they turn it off and on at will, that'll be pretty unambiguous. It continues:

and they have power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they want.
Sounds like they're doing a combination of things over time, as often as they want. They don't just give everybody AIDS and call it a (1260) day(s).
 
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Perhaps because the world makes itself ignorant to what is happening around them.
 
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Dear ed, I believe it would be better to be humble before God and leave the book of

Revelation alone as an unsolved, if not unsolvable, mystery'


. Most of the book remains incomprehensible, as the time of the end is not

yet with us. Who these 2 individuals are, besides Enoch and Elijah, seems to remain

for future history to fulfill. If Enoch and Elijah, that would make sense, but the important

thing is, these will be two Christian men. And Jews probably. It is better to leave the

book of Revelation for God to reveal, and not to try to deceive the whole world with

false prophecies and false twistings of the Book of Revelation. It is dangerous to

read this book, and even more dangerous to believe one has finally figured it all out.

All interpreters up to the current day have left much unrevealed. Much is still unknown

about the future of planet Earth. This is all in God's good, loving hands. In Erie PA

Scott R. Harrington
Revelations means to REVEAL. Jesus opened up the seals to us. God wouldn't give us a book and tell us not to read it. If we dont understand it then we have to seek.
 
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I think it would be kinda hard for anybody not to notice, you got TV, Computers, satelites, weekly new, nightly news, global news, we have the ability through television ( and all the technology that goes with that), to see anything happening in any part of the world when its happening, and everyday it only grows, so....I think folks will be able to notice. Sadly, yes, some will not see that as a sign.
Hi NoahsMom,
Yes, this is what bewilders me. All this technology so surely the whole world will very quickly identify No Rain Since to The Revelation in the bible.
I guess I have a glimse of this daily. With apologies to the Roman Catholics but this is an easy example. My bible says that Joseph did not know Mary until after Jesus was born but the Roman Catholics believe Mary remained a virgin. Oh yes and brothers were named as well. But this is just the tip of a big iceberg. Everywhere you go you meet people who ignore and twist facts to suit their belief. It is difficult to find people who search for the truth and not to justify.
But no rain and still no connection has me shaking my head. Surely I am missing something.
love
edwin.
 
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Dear ed, I believe it would be better to be humble before God and leave the book of

Revelation alone as an unsolved, if not unsolvable, mystery'


. Most of the book remains incomprehensible, as the time of the end is not

yet with us. Who these 2 individuals are, besides Enoch and Elijah, seems to remain

for future history to fulfill. If Enoch and Elijah, that would make sense, but the important

thing is, these will be two Christian men. And Jews probably. It is better to leave the

book of Revelation for God to reveal, and not to try to deceive the whole world with

false prophecies and false twistings of the Book of Revelation. It is dangerous to

read this book, and even more dangerous to believe one has finally figured it all out.

All interpreters up to the current day have left much unrevealed. Much is still unknown

about the future of planet Earth. This is all in God's good, loving hands. In Erie PA

Scott R. Harrington

Hi Scohh1960,
Yes Revelations is indeed a mystery. And yes, I don't push to hard for knowledge on any issue. I Like to wait with patience and the Lord teaches me meanings which I need in my walk.
But I feel this is a good question. I am interested in responses and your response is interesting also. Thank you for your input.
love
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They will notice big time,that it has not rained,as well as the other plagues,but why don't they believe it,that it is from God and turn to God.

When Jesus was on earth He did miracles,and said if they don't believe the words that He is saying,then believe Him for the works that He does that testify that He is of God,and some still did not believe.

Not to take anything away from Jesus for He could of caused fire to come down if He wanted to,but that was not His ministry,but the miracles that Jesus did,some people thought they could explain it away,as today they think they can explain away a healing,or people changing to do good when they were cutthroats,and similar things.

But how can they explain away the miracles that the 2 witnesses do,which would show how hard their heart would be,for the prophets have power to kill people with fire and to reign down fire from heaven,and cause plagues upon them,and stop the rain,but it happened at the time of Egypt where Pharaoh would not let the Jews go until after the last plague,and then after the Jews were gone for a little while Pharaoh went after them,and this is at a time when mankind was not as bad as they will be in attitude during the time of the two witnesses,which goes to show you if it can happen in Egypt,it can happen at the time of the 2 witnesses when people believes man is god himself.

I believe that when Pharaoh hardened his heart against the plagues,that the people of Egypt,at least the vast majority were not of that mindset,although they might of tried to ignore it because they thought Pharaoh was god on earth,and what he says is law,but the people during the time of the 2 witnesses believe man is god himself and the majority is of the mindset of hardening their heart.

It goes to show you when people want to believe what they want to believe,you cannot shake them from that belief,but what I believe happens is that when people like Pharaoh and the people at the time of the 2 witnesses,which are occultic,nature worshippers,that believe they can use natures powers against people,or a pagan god's power against people,come across people like the 2 witnesses,or if they think someone would come along like the 2 witnesses,which they deal with the 2 witnesses,believe that their power is also of the occult,and in their mind think that their power is temporary,and they will somehow triumph over them by their occult power eventually.

It is like war where both sides think they can whip each other,and if one starts to lose they think it is temporary and they will bounce back and triumph,so the people during the time of the 2 witnesses are hardened against the 2 witnesses and their powers,thinking the 2 witnesses are of the occult using nature to battle them,but the people of the world who are occultic by then,believe that the two witnesses power will not triumph in the long run,but they will eventually triumph over the 2 witnesses,with their occultic power,when the New Age Christ appears,who tapped in to the highest powers of the Cosmos,so he has all nature at his request,which the people of the world believes it will supersede that of the 2 witnesses,and the New Age Christ will share that power with his followers,and restore all the hidden mysteries of the past,and they can take out the 2 witnesses.

If someone says how can they not believe with the miracles that they do,I believe it is because they are of the occult by then,and believe the 2 witnesses are of the occult and not a personal God,and believe that eventually the world will triumph over the 2 witnesses,when the New Age Christ appears,which they believe he will have all of natures power in the palm of his hands,and can easily defeat the 2 witnesses.

The Bible does say that the beast comes from the bottomless pit and kills the 2 witnesses,but it is not because the beast has power over them,or any occult power,for that is the imagination of man,but God is allowing the beast to kill them,and the world will think the New Age Christ beat them with his occult powers,but that is part of the delusion to cause all who do not love God to follow the beast system.

The beast has no occult powers,and cannot tap in to nature for power,for that is the imagination of man,and the false prophet does lying wonders to deceive the world to follow the beast,which are not true wonders.

The world will rejoice when the 2 witnesses are killed by the beast,and believe that the beast beat them with his occult powers,which is part of the delusion to cause all people who do not love God to follow the beast system.
Anything that the 2 witnesses did,they believe when the New Age Christ appears,they can do better,and the 2 witnesses coming back to life does not phase them,as they believe they are gods.
The world will rejoice when the 2 witnesses are defeated,and will not believe in them,but the Jews will turn to God believing that the 2 witnesses are of the God of Israel,and that they did wonders by a personal God and not nature,and they will turn to Jesus,which is the main purpose of the 2 witnesses going to the Jews.

The world will be surprised when they find out they do not have occult powers,which they believe the New Age Christ would share occult powers with them,and restore the hidden mysteries of the past,and the false prophet does lying wonders,so there were no true wonders and powers that would stem from man himself.
The beast is controlled by Satan,and it could be that the 10 horns,10 leaders of the world over different parts of the world,are controlled by a devil,for having the same mindset as the beast,for they hand their power over to the beast,and those people have control of technology in the area that can make it appear as if the false prophet does wonders.

The thing is do they get mad at the New Age Christ at that point for lying about sharing powers with them,which they know is not true when they themselves cannot do anything of power,or do they not care because at that time they have taken the mark of the beast,and have the nature of a devil,with no reversal,and are so hateful,that they blame God,and want to go against the Jews who have turned to Jesus.
They will be so hateful and blame God,for they will soon know of God when the beast has no power to stop the wrath of God,and then the world will know that the beast was phony,when the wrath of God coming upon them makes the plagues of the 2 witnesses look like child's play,and even when God's wrath of giant hailstones comes upon them they still blaspheme against God,for that is all they know for they have the nature of the devil,and they know within them that they have no way of being saved.
 
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it says they will have the power to stop the rain, not that they will stop it for all of those days in one go
Hi jd etc ,
I thank you for your post. I find it hard to take it on board as scripture seems clear, but I did have to go back and re-read it for a fresh evaluation.
love
edwin
 
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Curious

Before the coming of the anti christ there will be a three year famine where no rain will fall on the last year.
Hi PBUH,
Your post must addres a different issue. I was asking for opinions on how the peoples of the world could ignore no rain for 1260 days worldwide and not relate it to The Revelation. This is an old prediction. It is worthy of been taken seriously if it is being fulfilled. (point to be taken by unbelievers)

love
edwin
 
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When I am reading posts on Christian Chat, I am pretty much oblivious to what is going on around me.
Hi resurrection33,
Are you saying that people who are involved in daily activities will not notice all the telecasts and news reports and water restrictions etc food price hikes etc etc and the inflation. Surely someone will talk about it at smoko.
love
edwin