Praying in Tongues

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7seasrekeyed

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Your historical list, which is merely a list of works of men. You left out the Catholic Church in the list. They make same claim as you. You left out Mormons. You left out Muslims and they make same claim as you. But you are the authority. Right? Your claims presented in this chat aren't able to be confirmed. And no one who loves God and trust Jesus and values their soul is stupid and foolish enough to believe your claims. I thank God he doesn't demand such stupidity. "CS1 said it, so it must be true! Got to believe it."
Stupidity.

Yes, I know it's taxing on you. You got to change your tactic whenever you face new holes in your ship.

so I checked your profile

apparently you are unsure of your spiritual status

if you accept Christ, you can be sure

otherwise, you really have no clue where anyone stands

very confusing

why so angry?
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Nothing I said in my post was false or a lie.....take it up with God........!

LOL!

take it up with God, eh?

no man. you take it up with God for denying what is so obviously true

it will bite you back. remember you heard it here and that is not a threat at all...only what happens to those who deny the Holy Spirit, which is bad enough, but then to go out of your way to insult and actually lie about it...please!
 

BillG

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nah

you just didn't take the time to read the reams of denial of the facts ;)

I'm sure some would like to declare that is what is being said though
Thank you for your first post.
Thanks for bringing me back down to earth.
You have truly blessed me.

Thank you
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Well, he can dish it out, but can't take it. And accidents happen.
Plus I cleaned up the entire mess.

nice

so now you are in God's good graces?

accidents happen, but Christ dying for you was not an accident
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Thank you for your first post.
Thanks for bringing me back down to earth.
You have truly blessed me.

Thank you
oh my

I know you as a kind and gentle man

I believe you are...that's all..you bless me also!
 

CS1

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Well, he can dish it out, but can't take it. And accidents happen.
Plus I cleaned up the entire mess.
Ignorun if you are refering to me as not being able to take it what you say ? Not at all. But if you think "BS1" is somthing I have to take to prove to you I can deal with what ever you say. You still here.
 
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LOL!

take it up with God, eh?

no man. you take it up with God for denying what is so obviously true

it will bite you back. remember you heard it here and that is not a threat at all...only what happens to those who deny the Holy Spirit, which is bad enough, but then to go out of your way to insult and actually lie about it...please!
I do not deny the Holy Spirit, but rather the view that some mumbo jumbo, fleshly, charismatic mumbling is from or of God......Like I said...when one who has no training can speak fluid Mandarin and another interpret for a Chinese speaking visitor that does not understand English....then the purpose of tongues is seen......

What I said in my post was factual and valid....I could care less if you or your buddies receive it......
 

Ignorun

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I am a mod and I would not ban him because it would be seen as abuse of my power. I can hold my own. But one should watch how they attack others in here.
CS1 I was falsely accused by you from the beginning of our responses. I also read your responses to others. They too contain same heated words.
I think you said you speak in tongues. You said you get 'het' (hot?) when people don't believe in such. If that is true, I understand your responses, but it doesn't make them right.
I responded to your attacks. That's where it began.
So it's not one sided.
 

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Which should alarm you, that if we have what Jesus said, and then it is changed by what Paul said, that like I mentioned the English translation is poor.
Or, we can look at this way. King James was a ruthless tyrant and king and his bible is very biased in how he personally believed.

This makes more sense to me than the translators making a mistake.
I wasn't going to say anything, but now I must. The ISV does use the word languages. The Complete Jewish Bible uses the word tongues.. It's the translation from Hebrew.

It doesn't really matter because tongues is languages. Not babble. I speak words. And they aren't English. I didn't study any language but I look at the Hebrew and greek now. But, spoke in tongues before I studied.
 

Ignorun

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Ignorun if you are refering to me as not being able to take it what you say ? Not at all. But if you think "BS1" is somthing I have to take to prove to you I can deal with what ever you say. You still here.
Ok.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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I do not deny the Holy Spirit, but rather the view that some mumbo jumbo, fleshly, charismatic mumbling is from or of God......Like I said...when one who has no training can speak fluid Mandarin and another interpret for a Chinese speaking visitor that does not understand English....then the purpose of tongues is seen......

What I said in my post was factual and valid....I could care less if you or your buddies receive it......
what you said in your post was that people who speak in tongues would be arguing about it as follows:


Nothing but accusations.......like I said....I fully expect those that push tongues to argue.......like they say in Australia.........whatevzzz mate

the truth is you are not Australian MATE but I could actually use expressions where I am from with a valid license to do so because that is who I am and where I am from, including 2 other languages neither of which are English, but I am talking to an American...you


what is it you are doing exactly? YOU are accusing those who do speak/pray/sing in tongues of arguing while doing that very thing yourself.

you argue against tongues. so, you are better in your own eyes? is that it ?

and you also feel the need to call those who pray in tongues as doing so out of their flesh in a mumbling which is not of God

well how would you know? I don't recall ever praying to you one time and yet I can list some pretty praise to God worthy things in my life that have come out of praying in tongues. and some falling under supernatural

you say you do not care...then why bother if me and my buddies practice what you choose to deny?

if you do not care, as you say, then why bother to go all gangbusters about it?

it's your loss. when a person says they do not care, it is my observation they are not listening to their own words

why wouldn't one Christian care about another? see, that is a heart issue whether or not you want to accept what God gives through His Spirit
 

CS1

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so I checked your profile

apparently you are unsure of your spiritual status

if you accept Christ, you can be sure

otherwise, you really have no clue where anyone stands

very confusing

why so angry?
Your historical list, which is merely a list of works of men. You left out the Catholic Church in the list. They make same claim as you. You left out Mormons. You left out Muslims and they make same claim as you. But you are the authority. Right? Your claims presented in this chat aren't able to be confirmed. And no one who loves God and trust Jesus and values their soul is stupid and foolish enough to believe your claims. I thank God he doesn't demand such stupidity. "CS1 said it, so it must be true! Got to believe it."
Stupidity.

Yes, I know it's taxing on you. You got to change your tactic whenever you face new holes in your ship.
No not at all I could be wrong, that is something you would never say because you are a prideful arrogant person. In addition, I do not need your deflecting of my post, which you did not go through; it would be nice if you had more integrity. That being said the reason why I left out the Mormons is because none of them men I posted were Mormons. Now you know even more then you did a minute ago. The word of God is the Authority unless you disagree then clearly you are... not. The idea that my claims cannot be confirmed? Excuse me they are not my claims, but the Historical documentation and what we have from those who are well established in the context of Christian history., ar you suggestin the men I posted do not exsist? then you sir, have bigger issues then I can help you with.
 

Ignorun

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No not at all I could be wrong, that is something you would never say because you are a prideful arrogant person. In addition, I do not need your deflecting of my post, which you did not go through; it would be nice if you had more integrity. That being said the reason why I left out the Mormons is because none of them men I posted were Mormons. Now you know even more then you did a minute ago. The word of God is the Authority unless you disagree then clearly you are... not. The idea that my claims cannot be confirmed? Excuse me they are not my claims, but the Historical documentation and what we have from those who are well established in the context of Christian history., ar you suggestin the men I posted do not exsist? then you sir, have bigger issues then I can help you with.
Your claims remain mere statements. They do not meet the standard that God has clearly established and revealed in His word. Now you can continue with insults and the such like, but nothing has changed. Your claims are as those of many man made religions. Empty. Sorry, but it's the truth.
 
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what you said in your post was that people who speak in tongues would be arguing about it as follows:


Nothing but accusations.......like I said....I fully expect those that push tongues to argue.......like they say in Australia.........whatevzzz mate

the truth is you are not Australian MATE but I could actually use expressions where I am from with a valid license to do so because that is who I am and where I am from, including 2 other languages neither of which are English, but I am talking to an American...you


what is it you are doing exactly? YOU are accusing those who do speak/pray/sing in tongues of arguing while doing that very thing yourself.

you argue against tongues. so, you are better in your own eyes? is that it ?

and you also feel the need to call those who pray in tongues as doing so out of their flesh in a mumbling which is not of God

well how would you know? I don't recall ever praying to you one time and yet I can list some pretty praise to God worthy things in my life that have come out of praying in tongues. and some falling under supernatural

you say you do not care...then why bother if me and my buddies practice what you choose to deny?

if you do not care, as you say, then why bother to go all gangbusters about it?

it's your loss. when a person says they do not care, it is my observation they are not listening to their own words

why wouldn't one Christian care about another? see, that is a heart issue whether or not you want to accept what God gives through His Spirit
Show me where I said I was Australian

No, I argue against the mumbo jumbo pushed as tongues

Bother you and your buddy....get a life...all I did was make a generalized truthful comment NOT directed at anyone in particular and both of you began to mouth even though I was not talking to either one of you

And most of what is done under the banner of charismatic churches is exactly that-->fleshly.......just like the video of Benny Hinn knocking people down like bowling pins with his jacket.....there is nothing biblical about that......
 

CS1

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CS1 I was falsely accused by you from the beginning of our responses. I also read your responses to others. They too contain same heated words.
I think you said you speak in tongues. You said you get 'het' (hot?) when people don't believe in such. If that is true, I understand your responses, but it doesn't make them right.
I responded to your attacks. That's where it began.
So it's not one sided.
No I have not used any abbreviations of you can respond as you did do yet you choose to mock my nick name that was your response what was your meaning ? Blessed assurance ? nothing i sais was heated it was in response to scoffing , mocking , and arrogance. each of my responses were after those who did the above I stated. yes i do speak in tongues. I never said I get hot when other don't beleive in such. that is abold face lie. Again I stand by the word of God that the gifts of the Holy Spirit are for today and have not ceased. I stand by the truth the term cessionist’ & cessionsim is not found in the word of God. BUT the gifts of the Holy Spirit are. 1cor 12 to 14 speaks and teaches on them.
 

CS1

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Your claims remain mere statements. They do not meet the standard that God has clearly established and revealed in His word. Now you can continue with insults and the such like, but nothing has changed. Your claims are as those of many man made religions. Empty. Sorry, but it's the truth.
Ok if you say so LOL.
 

CS1

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Your claims remain mere statements. They do not meet the standard that God has clearly established and revealed in His word. Now you can continue with insults and the such like, but nothing has changed. Your claims are as those of many man made religions. Empty. Sorry, but it's the truth.
Just look in the mirror guy. those words apply to you too. LOl
 

Ignorun

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Show me where I said I was Australian

No, I argue against the mumbo jumbo pushed as tongues

Bother you and your buddy....get a life...all I did was make a generalized truthful comment NOT directed at anyone in particular and both of you began to mouth even though I was not talking to either one of you

And most of what is done under the banner of charismatic churches is exactly that-->fleshly.......just like the video of Benny Hinn knocking people down like bowling pins with his jacket.....there is nothing biblical about that......
Kinda sick...that jacket business. What's on it! Nasty.
 

Ignorun

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No I have not used any abbreviations of you can respond as you did do yet you choose to mock my nick name that was your response what was your meaning ? Blessed assurance ? nothing i sais was heated it was in response to scoffing , mocking , and arrogance. each of my responses were after those who did the above I stated. yes i do speak in tongues. I never said I get hot when other don't beleive in such. that is abold face lie. Again I stand by the word of God that the gifts of the Holy Spirit are for today and have not ceased. I stand by the truth the term cessionist’ & cessionsim is not found in the word of God. BUT the gifts of the Holy Spirit are. 1cor 12 to 14 speaks and teaches on them.
What? Now that's speaking in something! But what...I do not know.
 
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Kinda sick...that jacket business. What's on it! Nasty.
Yeah it was nuts.....people running across the stage to be bowled over by a jacket swing.....97% of it is nothing but flesh........the funny thing...Jesus sat the people down and in decent order taught the word of God, he did not back flip down the isle uttering some mumbo jumbo.....I worked with one once that sat at a break table and said, " We got so besides ourselves yesterday that we forgot to preach the word." I said, " Well, you did not worship God then." He got all puffed up as they all do and proceeded to mouth and I said listen pal....The worship of God is in spirit and IN TRUTH....If you did not PREACH the word you did not worship God........

The order of service, how the Lord did it, what Paul commanded pastors in Timothy and Titus is clear.........regardless of what anyone states.....!