gay bashing

[TheLearner]

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[calibob]

Being born gay is what many think is the case. Were that really the case then persecuting them would be wrong. Quite the contrary, our sexuality is a learned trait.

I agree with this definition: Gender dysphoria occurs when there is a persistent sense of mismatch between one’s experienced gender and assigned gender. Children get confused enough without telling them God made a mistake in their case.

For the agenda is not just about equal opportunity for homosexual couples in a relationship, but to radically change Western society for the worse. From promoting transgender and homosexual choices in kindergartens to confusing children in schools through the same sexual politics of gender fluidity and encouraging homosexual emotions and sex. When they are out of the closet, they are recruiting.

2 Corinthians 11:14: “And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.”

For some it's clearly a choice. Prison for example; People chose homosexuality rather than celibacy but others regret it so much they chose suicide over celibacy. It used to be classified as a mental illness which I fervently believe in many cases.

That became politicly incorrect so they amended it. Some doctors make a fortune performing sexual reassignment as to say they were born with the wrong the wrong parts and there's nothing wrong with their minds. Hogwash!

I'm not a doctor but I know they can be saved too. And it won't be a problem in the next life because it will no longer exist.

 

[Budman]

I guess because I'm 'A' political I get offended by people that single out homos' but support a well known whoremonger, that was fined $10 million for money laundering at the "Taj Mahal Casino" and declared bankruptcy, got away with it, and became our leader.

Didn't take long for someone to drag Trump into this.

FYI, we didn't elect a national Pastor, we elected a political leader. And if you want to drag out the sins of one, we can certainly drag out the sins of all the others.

Example: You use "whore monger" to describe Trump, yet the biggest Presidential "whore monger" was John F. Kennedy - who committed adultery nearly on a daily basis while President.

How about Bill Clinton who committed adultery numerous times, inside the White House itself, and has been accused of rape or sexual assault by dozens of women.

Woodrow Wilson was a communist and Ku Klux Klan sympathizer.

Nixon disparaged Jews and Black.

Don't even get me started on Obama.

And I could go on and on.

 

[UnderGrace]

Didn't take long for someone to drag Trump into this.

FYI, we didn't elect a national Pastor, we elected a political leader. And if you want to drag out the sins of one, we can certainly drag out the sins of all the others.

Example: You use "whore monger" to describe Trump, yet the biggest Presidential "whore monger" was John F. Kennedy - who committed adultery nearly on a daily basis while President.

How about Bill Clinton who committed adultery numerous times, inside the White House itself, and has been accused of rape or sexual assault by dozens of women.

Woodrow Wilson was a communist and Ku Klux Klan sympathizer.

Nixon disparaged Jews and Black.

Don't even get me started on Obama.

And I could go on and on.

Amen Budman

Also, the OP makes overly generalized assumptions about gay bashing and Christians

Reminds me of the tactics of those who promote the idea that every white person is racist whether they know it or not.

 

[calibob]

Didn't take long for someone to drag Trump into this.

FYI, we didn't elect a national Pastor, we elected a political leader. And if you want to drag out the sins of one, we can certainly drag out the sins of all the others.

Example: You use "whore monger" to describe Trump, yet the biggest Presidential "whore monger" was John F. Kennedy - who committed adultery nearly on a daily basis while President.

How about Bill Clinton who committed adultery numerous times, inside the White House itself, and has been accused of rape or sexual assault by dozens of women.

Woodrow Wilson was a communist and Ku Klux Klan sympathizer.

Nixon disparaged Jews and Black.

Don't even get me started on Obama.

And I could go on and on.

The point is people are more offended by and opposed to homosexuality than other obvious sins which are equally as bad. I chose Trump because he's obvious. The money laundering and non profit organization scams bother me more than who someone has sex with.

I will however admit that's my personal prejudice. I got mad when Jimmy Carter gave the Shaw of Iran political asylum. So being harsher on homosexuality than adultery seems like a miscarriage of judgement.

 

[UnderGrace]

The point is people are more offended by and opposed to homosexuality

And you know this how?

 

[calibob]

Amen Budman

Also, the OP makes overly generalized assumptions about gay bashing and Christians

Reminds me of the tactics of those who promote the idea that every white person is racist whether they know it or not.

I said some not most. And all races contain racists BTW.

 

[calibob]

And you know this how?

I was a counselor.

 

[Budman]

The point is people are more offended by and opposed to homosexuality than other obvious sins which are equally as bad.

being harsher on homosexuality than adultery seems like a miscarriage of judgement.

Why this soft approach regarding homosexuality? You seem to be leaning toward some homosexuals not having a choice.

It's entirely a choice, whether they are consciously aware of it or not.

There isn't a single shred of scientific evidence that homosexuality is genetic.

 

[calibob]

I was a professional counselor.

And a social worker.

 

[UnderGrace]

I was a counselor.

That does not give credibility to your stated assumptions...sorry.

I can easily refute you by stating I have worked with, interacted with, been friends with, many, many, many Christians, never once did I ever hear a single comment that even was remotely close to gay bashing.

 

[Budman]

Also, you talk about the "equality" of sins, yet contradict yourself when you said:

The money laundering and non profit organization scams bother me more than who someone has sex with.

 

[calibob]

Why this soft approach regarding homosexuality? You seem to be leaning toward some homosexuals not having a choice.

It's entirely a choice, whether they are consciously aware of it or not.

There isn't a single shred of scientific evidence that homosexuality is genetic.

I some cases there is. Male and Female brains are different and otopy's of the brains of some homosexuals appear to contradict their born gender. So rather than giving them hormones or sexual reassignment surgery I choose to forgive them. You wouldn't blame some for being Schizophrenic why blame them all for being gay?

I know many are opportunists and/or predators not including those who were sexually abused as children or by former spouses, lovers or were raped thus hate the opposite gender. It's case by case and we can't just perform brain biopsies to figure out what's wrong with them. Being gay is NOT Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit!

 

[calibob]

That does not give credibility to your stated assumptions...sorry.

I can easily refute you by stating I have worked with, interacted with, been friends with, many, many, many Christians, never once did I ever hear a single comment that even was remotely close to gay bashing.

Then you haven't been paying attention.

 

[calibob]

Also, you talk about the "equality" of sins, yet contradict yourself when you said:

I admitted I was speaking out of prejudice.

 

[Budman]

I some cases there is. Male and Female brains are different and otopy's of the brains of some homosexuals appear to contradict their born gender.

That is absolute speculation. Gender is genetic and cannot be changed. And, once again, there is no "gay gene" or any scientific evidence in favor of it. The entire genome has been mapped, so get over it.

Homosexuals desire an excuse such as "I was born this way" to continue in their deviant lifestyle.

Being gay is NOT Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit!

Homosexuality is a sin. Period. You can try and spin it all you like, but you'll fail the biblical test every time.

Why not make the same excuses for pedophilia? Or bestiality? Why not try to excuse those with the lament they're "born that way"?

Again, why are you trying so hard to excuse homosexuality away?

Are you yourself a homosexual?

 

[UnderGrace]

Then you haven't been paying attention.

Yes and you have of course, and you are an accredited social worker too, and when working with these Christians they just had to bash gays along with all of their other problems.....okay then... support your claims with research, social workers do do research right, can you find me something in a reputable journal maybe?

I'll be waiting

 

[calibob]

That is absolute speculation. Gender is genetic and cannot be changed. And, once again, there is no "gay gene" or any scientific evidence in favor of it. The entire genome has been mapped, so get over it.

Homosexuals desire an excuse such as "I was born this way" to continue in their deviant lifestyle.



Homosexuality is a sin. Period. You can try and spin it all you like, but you'll fail the biblical test every time.

Why not make the same excuses for pedophilia? Or bestiality? Why not try to excuse those with the lament they're "born that way"?

Again, why are you trying so hard to excuse homosexuality away?

Are you yourself a homosexual?

I'm not excusing it, I'm forgiving it and letting only God be their judge. My sexual preference is nobody business but for the record; I've never found any man arousing. The idea is amusing like a dirty joke.

 

[UnderGrace]

That is absolute speculation. Gender is genetic and cannot be changed. And, once again, there is no "gay gene" or any scientific evidence in favor of it. The entire genome has been mapped, so get over it.

Homosexuals desire an excuse such as "I was born this way" to continue in their deviant lifestyle.



Homosexuality is a sin. Period. You can try and spin it all you like, but you'll fail the biblical test every time.

Why not make the same excuses for pedophilia? Or bestiality? Why not try to excuse those with the lament they're "born that way"?

Again, why are you trying so hard to excuse homosexuality away?

Are you yourself a homosexual?

Thank you again Budman!!

I do tire of this "Christians are bad people because they hate gays more than anything" nonsense.

 

[UnderGrace]

I'm forgiving it and letting only God be their judge.

So you can judge the whore monger but only God can judge the gay person.

Seems like a double standard to me, isn't this what you disliked in the first place, the double standard?