I think Jesus was preaching to all Jews (religious or not). If a non-religious Jew happened to be present at one of Jesus' sermons and got moved by the Holy Spirit to follow the Lord, that would be nice. The recently converted Jew would start attempting to follow the earthly Jesus and then, after the cross, with the baptism of the Holy Ghost, he would actually follow the risen Jesus.
Are the Gospels written specifically to Jews only?
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Earthly Jesus; He breaks their law.
Another component being left out is that Jesus began his ministry as the God man,anointed by the Holy Spirit and preached born again conversion.
He ministered to,healed,and preached to Gentiles.
He picked and discipled the first christian converts. Betrothed his bride and set Himself at odds with the Jews,was killed by the Jews, did things concerning the devil never before heard of, and operated in signs ,wonders and miracles,commissioned the church,imparted the Holy Spirit to the Church,and fulfilled the ministry of Elijah & Elisha, etc.
And the Pauline doctrine only adherants diminishes the entire deal by labeling it as " only for Jews" and " thats not for us,its just OT"
I Mean,how in the world is that even possible?????
Another component being left out is that Jesus began his ministry as the God man,anointed by the Holy Spirit and preached born again conversion.
He ministered to,healed,and preached to Gentiles.
He picked and discipled the first christian converts. Betrothed his bride and set Himself at odds with the Jews,was killed by the Jews, did things concerning the devil never before heard of, and operated in signs ,wonders and miracles,commissioned the church,imparted the Holy Spirit to the Church,and fulfilled the ministry of Elijah & Elisha, etc.
And the Pauline doctrine only adherants diminishes the entire deal by labeling it as " only for Jews" and " thats not for us,its just OT"
I Mean,how in the world is that even possible?????
So that " born again" comment by Jesus is part of the circus?
Is Jesus a clown ,or some other component in the non pauline only circus?
He certainly has no words of relevance huh?
4 gospels,non pauline epistles,revelation,and the entire OT,being irrelevant gives that doctrine a beautiful "out" to omit anything that personally holds you to whatever standards those conflicting writings by the Holy Spirit is conveying.
Oh,wait,Hebrews is in danger also!!!
Oh well,just consider hebrews a wild card.
That is bliss!!!!
No,its a fool's paradise
Is Jesus a clown ,or some other component in the non pauline only circus?
He certainly has no words of relevance huh?
4 gospels,non pauline epistles,revelation,and the entire OT,being irrelevant gives that doctrine a beautiful "out" to omit anything that personally holds you to whatever standards those conflicting writings by the Holy Spirit is conveying.
Oh,wait,Hebrews is in danger also!!!
Oh well,just consider hebrews a wild card.
That is bliss!!!!
No,its a fool's paradise
Oh,I forgot you guys purposefully negate the mispeak of the rest of the bible.
But that,of course,is why you guys don't know anything about Jesus priestly ministry.
Its in Hebrews ( partly)
What a dilemma!
In order to read hebrews it will be near impossible to take it seriously since paul may not have " written" it.
But you guys would just be bogged down by Jesus' priesthood or his born again mispeak,or that mispeak of jn 3;16.
I already marked through the words "whole" and "whosoever" that the Holy Spirit mistakenly inserted in there I penciled in Jew instead. I chuckle at that Jesus and Holy Spirit, who actually thought they came for non Jews.
You gotta remember you guys weren't there to correct him.
But that,of course,is why you guys don't know anything about Jesus priestly ministry.
Its in Hebrews ( partly)
What a dilemma!
In order to read hebrews it will be near impossible to take it seriously since paul may not have " written" it.
But you guys would just be bogged down by Jesus' priesthood or his born again mispeak,or that mispeak of jn 3;16.
I already marked through the words "whole" and "whosoever" that the Holy Spirit mistakenly inserted in there I penciled in Jew instead. I chuckle at that Jesus and Holy Spirit, who actually thought they came for non Jews.
You gotta remember you guys weren't there to correct him.
I think the division between the Jew and the gentile has always been a temporal. the kingdom of God is not of this creation . The Holy Spirit of Christ using the flesh of one nation to represent the unseen spiritual seed by which all men are born again from above in all nations . The Jew thinking it had to with their Jewish flesh did not mix faith in what they did hear coming from god. So they refusing to believe prophecy rather did whatsoever their own mouth declared as oral traditions of men.
The term inward Jew is used to represent a born again gentile. The time of reformation has come over two thousand yeas ago.
If any man Jew or Gentile have not the Spirit of Christ then neither do they belong to Christ .Got puts no difference between the two .
Same one lump of clay... same mutual faith of Christ working in the hearts of His new creature the bride of Christ, the church
Acts 15:9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
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Non Pauline.. what's that???
No wild cards in the deck of 66. (chapters or called books.)
The whole Bible is the good news (gospel ). Beginning in verse 1 of Genesis ending in Revelation 22 ….revealing to us God thoughts confirming His loving laws that do work in those who believe God.... who is not a man as us has spoken moving men like Paul and Moses to record His thoughts and ways..
The outward Jew whom Christ mocked according to Isaiah 28.It was because they believed not(no faith) in all things written in the law and the fathers (sola scriptura) Because they refused to walk by faith they tried to make Jesus into a circus seal . Show us a miracle as a sign and wonder and then we will believe.
Hearing the word of God prophecy and believing was not a gift to them .They rather did whatsoever their own mouths declared (Jerimiah 44) as having no faith, a froward nation. And by those oral traditions as a law of the fathers it made all things written in the law and the prophets without effect..
John 6:30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?
Jesus called them a evil generation not being part of the new generation. the born again generation of Christ.
Luke 11:29 And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: "they seek a sign"; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.
No wild cards in the deck of 66. (chapters or called books.)
The whole Bible is the good news (gospel ). Beginning in verse 1 of Genesis ending in Revelation 22 ….revealing to us God thoughts confirming His loving laws that do work in those who believe God.... who is not a man as us has spoken moving men like Paul and Moses to record His thoughts and ways..
The outward Jew whom Christ mocked according to Isaiah 28.It was because they believed not(no faith) in all things written in the law and the fathers (sola scriptura) Because they refused to walk by faith they tried to make Jesus into a circus seal . Show us a miracle as a sign and wonder and then we will believe.
Hearing the word of God prophecy and believing was not a gift to them .They rather did whatsoever their own mouths declared (Jerimiah 44) as having no faith, a froward nation. And by those oral traditions as a law of the fathers it made all things written in the law and the prophets without effect..
John 6:30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?
Jesus called them a evil generation not being part of the new generation. the born again generation of Christ.
Luke 11:29 And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: "they seek a sign"; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.