Are the Gospels written specifically to Jews only?

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They would be saved, but only by going thru Israel, and to follow the law of Moses, like all of them.

Don't anticipate revelation, the gospel of grace where Gentiles are saved, apart from works, only came in after the Jews stoned Stephen.
No one was saved by the law..

If the law could save we would still be under law, christ died for nothing
 

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Do you ever study?

Gal 3 - 10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed iseveryone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.”
Deut 27: 26 ‘Cursed is the one who does not confirm all the words of this law by observing them.’ “And all the people shall say, ‘Amen


Or are you like others, and words do not mean what they say?

If you want to ignore the word of God, thats on you my friend.
How I wish I could instill in you the spirit of our Lord!! What more can I say? Yet you are holding fast to what is not of God, not of love. God truly is love, and when we love Him we obey Him. It brings blessings into your life to do this.
 
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No one was saved by the law..

If the law could save we would still be under law, christ died for nothing
Again, you are "anticipating revelation" here. You are assuming that everyone before Paul understood Romans, Galatians and Ephesians.

During the dispensation of the law, you exhibit faith by "obeying the law", all the Jews have to obey the law. It is true that all the saints of past ages were saved through the merits of Christ's shed blood, but not through their faith in that shed blood.

Those of past ages were expected to believe only what God had thus far revealed, or what He had revealed to them. In other words, they were saved simply because they trusted God and believed what He said. The full plan of salvation has since been unfolded, but the Scriptures make it crystal clear that these believers were saved without even understanding that Christ would die for them.

When God says, "Repent and be baptized for the remission. of sins," what
will faith do? Just one thing: repent and be baptized. We know that oceans of
water cannot wash away one sin, yet when John the Baptist and Peter preached
repentance and baptism for remission not one of their hearers would have
interpreted their words to mean: "Trust in the death of Christ for salvation."

Indeed, when God required water baptism for salvation the only way to manifest
faith was to be baptized, and those who refused to do so were condemned for
their unbelief:

"But the Pharisees and lawyers REJECTED THE COUNSEL OF GOD
AGAINST THEMSELVES, BEING NOT BAPTIZIED OF HIM" (Luke 7:30).

But when God says, "BUT NOW the righteousness of God without the law is
manifested" (Rom. 3:21); "To him that worketh not, but believeth on Him that
justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness" (Rom. 4:5); "Being
Justified freely by His grace, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus"
(Rom. 3:24); "In whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of
sins according to the riches of His grace" (Eph. 1:7); "Not by works of
righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us"
(Tit. 3:5); "Not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man
should boast" (Eph. 2:8,9) -

When God now says this, what will faith do? Faith will say, "This is the most wonderful offer ever made by God to man. I cannot refuse it. I will trust Christ as my Savior and accept salvation as the free gift of God's grace."
 

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No one was saved by the law..

If the law could save we would still be under law, christ died for nothing
Surely you could know that you have the safety of Christ, but you still have the love of the Lord guiding you into living for Him? You can be saved by the Father through Christ, but live a bleak life living without God within you. Please open your heart and life to God, not because God saves you but because you love Him.

When you reject God's laws He gives you in love and shows you how He blesses you, then you are rejecting God.

You know to take your sins to Christ for forgiveness, and surely you know Christ asks you to repent of those sins. How can you do this when you reject any knowledge of sin saying it doesn't apply to you because you aren't paid by the Lord with salvation for listening to God's guidance? It is like telling your parents you will do nothing they ask because their love for you isn't based on what you do, it is given freely.
 

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No one was saved by the law..
Agreed, yet the law was used to point to salvation.

What strikes me looking at your statement alone is, do you believe anyone under the law could be saved? Or to put it a better way. Do you believe Israel before the coming of Jesus had a way to be right with God?

I'm trying to understand if you think that even though Israel followed the law they had no chance of being saved and attaining a place in heaven with those who knew Jesus? Are all those who lived under the old covenant cursed with no way to enjoy the blessings of eternal life? If not, how was David 'saved'? To think of but one person.

When you simply state the above quote you leave room for me to believe you think those before the cross are lost. If not, how did all those Jewish souls become saved?
 
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No. Luke was a Gentile. And by the the time the Gospels were written down the church was beginning to grow exponentially.
 

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Those of past ages were expected to believe only what God had thus far revealed, or what He had revealed to them. In other words, they were saved simply because they trusted God and believed what He said.
Without adding to that it is the gospel in a nut shell . That is how anyone is saved in any generation, hearing God and believing him by what he says.

The full plan of salvation has since been unfolded, but the Scriptures make it crystal clear that these believers were saved without even understanding that Christ would die for them.
The old testament saints knew beforehand of a suffering savoir. The prohet Abel's blood cries out as a suffering witness .

Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.1 Peter 1:9-11

When God says, "Repent and be baptized for the remission. of sins," what will faith do? Just one thing: repent and be baptized.
Yes we work out our completed salvation as he works in us with us to both will ….hear the call and empower us to turn so that then we can do the work he requires our repenting. Again as both to will and do his good pleasure.
 
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Besides the Bible verses in the link. There is the Eusebius, ecclesiastical history 3.4.6 says Luke was “by race an Antiochian and a physician by trade.”
 
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It is also known that Luke was from the second generation of the church and was not an eye witness of Jesus’ ministry. Ecclesiastical history 3.4.8 Paul preaches from Luke’s Gospel saying “according to my Gospel” and Paul was the last Apostle who was assigned to the Gentiles. It is fitting to have a Gentile author in that context.
 
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The first church was comprised of Jews.
I think that statement has caused much confusion. The smallest denomination as the bride of Christ the church is two or three a family . Adam and Eve represent the one bride of Christ, The church is where and when two or three gather together or two or three million gather according to the authority of His name, as it is written.

In enlarging the boarder of the bride of Christ the church we should be careful on how we add. Like for instance in the Old testament God uses tribes or families as gates we enter into fellowship . and in the new testament he uses the word apostles as those sent out. Together forming one bride the church putting no difference between a Jew and a gentile as if salvation was ever about the flesh as the things seen


Of course Jesus message was given to the Jews. All God's gifts are given to the Jews to give to the nations. That doesn't mean God leaves Israel giftless. In fact just the opposite. Israel's gift is to have God's sanctuary among them forever, thus proving to the nations that He is God.
The Jews that remain foreigners to the promises of Christ after the time of first century reformation still receive the witness of tongues against themselves. Not believing the new testament, or that the veil being rent has any value.
 
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The old testament saints knew beforehand of a suffering savoir. The prohet Abel's blood cries out as a suffering witness .
There is a big difference between knowing a suffering savior and understanding the mystery, that was only revealed to Paul, how putting faith in that savior's work on the cross would save all of them, as I have explained before elsewhere.

True, it was first stated to Adam that the woman's seed will have a bruised heel, from the serpent. But Adam had no way of knowing about Paul's Gospel, likewise Isaiah was not aware of that mystery too, when he also wrote chapter 53.
 
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No. Luke was a Gentile. And by the the time the Gospels were written down the church was beginning to grow exponentially.
I agree that Luke was a Gentile, but just because he is, does not mean his Gospel is directed towards the Gentile church.

The best example was found in how he record the Angel Gabriel's message to Mary

Luke 1 NLT 30 “Don’t be afraid, Mary,” the angel told her, “for you have found favor with God! 31 You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you will name him Jesus. 32 He will be very great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his ancestor David. 33 And he will reign over Israel[c] forever; his Kingdom will never end!”

Luke is saying the same thing as Matthew, that Jesus first coming to earth is only for the Jews. It is a similar Gospel of the Kingdom message about Jeremiah's prophecy

Jeremiah 23:5 KJV Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. 6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, The Lord Our Righteousness.

Luke was portraying Jesus as the "Son of Man", Jesus was a Man. Matthew, he was a King, Mark, he was a servant, John, he was God. The 4 Gospels portray the 4 aspects of Jesus.
 
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I agree that Luke was a Gentile, but just because he is, does not mean his Gospel is directed towards the Gentile church.

The best example was found in how he record the Angel Gabriel's message to Mary

Luke 1 NLT 30 “Don’t be afraid, Mary,” the angel told her, “for you have found favor with God! 31 You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you will name him Jesus. 32 He will be very great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his ancestor David. 33 And he will reign over Israel[c] forever; his Kingdom will never end!”

Luke is saying the same thing as Matthew, that Jesus first coming to earth is only for the Jews. It is a similar Gospel of the Kingdom message about Jeremiah's prophecy

Jeremiah 23:5 KJV Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. 6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, The Lord Our Righteousness.

Luke was portraying Jesus as the "Son of Man", Jesus was a Man. Matthew, he was a King, Mark, he was a servant, John, he was God. The 4 Gospels portray the 4 aspects of Jesus.
Luke was a friend of Paul. Luke recorded Paul’s accounting of Jesus. Paul was the Apostle assigned to the Gentiles. Luke is the only Gentile writer in the Bible. Seeing a theme here? The Gospels apply to everyone regardless of who they were originally written to. It’s the same with Paul’s letters to the churches. I’m not Corinthian but I and II Corinthians applies to me.
 
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The Gospels apply to everyone regardless of who they were originally written to.
Luke 12:33
"Sell your possessions and give to charity; make yourselves money belts which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near nor moth destroys.

Do you follow this set of instructions? Why not?
 
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Luke 12:33
"Sell your possessions and give to charity; make yourselves money belts which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near nor moth destroys.

Do you follow this set of instructions? Why not?
1) Jesus is speaking directly to His disciples not a command for every believer to follow.

2) It doesn’t command to sell all possessions.

3) The early church in Acts 4 would sell property as the need arised and each still kept possession of the rest of their holdings.

4) I have sold possessions and will gladly do so again if called to do so.
 
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1) Jesus is speaking directly to His disciples not a command for every believer to follow.
Interesting, aren't you disagreeing with yourself here. when you earlier stated The Gospels apply to everyone regardless of who they were originally written to.
 
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Luke 12:33
"Sell your possessions and give to charity; make yourselves money belts which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near nor moth destroys.

Do you follow this set of instructions? Why not?
Also, there are 31,101 other verses weighing on every other verse in the Bible. I did not say every verse applies to everyone. The Gospels as a whole in context apply to everyone.