Human Cloning

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Crazy4GODword

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I heard of something called cloning people, YOUR ABLE TO DO THAT???? well I have seen two people that have cloned themselves and they became their kid and the kids are brother and sister in the family....weird right. I wonder what is going on in this century...well hitler wanted to but failed...so what would we do if this happens???


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Scotth1960

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I heard of something called cloning people, YOUR ABLE TO DO THAT???? well I have seen two people that have cloned themselves and they became their kid and the kids are brother and sister in the family....weird right. I wonder what is going on in this century...well hitler wanted to but failed...so what would we do if this happens???


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Friends, I trust and pray that God in his ominpotent Providence will never allow cloning of human beings to happen. In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington
 
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DanuckInUSA

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Even if somebody was able to clone the flesh I am not convinced that it would be without complication. How can the husk exist without the soul? The flesh would die.
 
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Crazy4GODword

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Can the clones receive the Spirit as well or do they go up with us....
 
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Lalilo

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In a world that is considered over populated for the amount of food available, why would you clone? A lot of people in this world spend a lot of money on trying to live longer. I fear cloning will be looked at as a means of supplying body parts for the original. If you needed a heart transplant, you would prefer a heart that is a perfect match. The ethics against cloning will probably be out weighed by the benefits. This is why the Christian belief that the eternal life here after is more important than our earthly existence, negates the fear of death. So a Christian wouldn't want cloning. If you believed you were going to hell you would want cloning.
 
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jimmydiggs

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Kind of reminds me of one of the latest Time Magazine issues that was so boldly claming that by 2045, humans will be immortally fused with machinery such as computers. Also reminds me of how in the 1940s and 1950s the rage of the day was that the 60s and 70s woudl be completely fueld by nuclear power. Predictions generally are a little bit of fact mix with hope, and a lot of hype.
 
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Crazy4GODword

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So the Spirit can still inhabit them....k that is strange they are us but not
 
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fireflies

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I will take this one step further. What about all the artificial insemnation? All those babies being born and no one knows who the father is? After a while lets say biological father is able to father 20 children through artifical insemination in the same town. Now these children grow up in the same town and come of age to date.............................then marry? You are going to wind up with half brothers and sisters married for they will never know who the sperm donor was?
 
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dmdave17

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This may sound old fashioned, a bit crazy even, but I believe that some scientific advances are engineered by the devil to foster evil in this world and further his agenda. I believe that cloning and artificial insemination are two of those. Anything which destroys the traditional family is a victory for Satan. I personally believe that God will not let human cloning happen. Take that however you want.
 
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I heard of something called cloning people, YOUR ABLE TO DO THAT????
Theoretically, but it's never been done with a human, for ethical reasons. Maybe you've heard of Dolly the sheep, which was a clone. That was years ago, and the science has come a long way since then. Cloning has been around for a while now.

well I have seen two people that have cloned themselves and they became their kid and the kids are brother and sister in the family....weird right.
You saw them? LOLs!

Like I said, nobody has cloned a human.

I wonder what is going on in this century...well hitler wanted to but failed...
Nah. Hitler was into eugenics, which is something completely different.

so what would we do if this happens???
It's not really that big a deal. A clone would just be a person like anyone else. Genetically, it's the same thing as an identical twin (but not the same age, of course).

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Kind of reminds me of one of the latest Time Magazine issues that was so boldly claming that by 2045, humans will be immortally fused with machinery such as computers.
There's nothing wrong with using technology in medicine, nor is there any doubt about its inevitability. We already do it, and have been doing so for a long time. It's just a matter of extent. It makes no sense to put a date on it, such as 2045. You could just as easily say 2145, 2005, or 1805. Man and machine have been interacting for a long time, and this is nothing new.

Incidentally, the 2045 date is not new. It's a prediction made by Ray Kurzweil in his 2005 book The Singularity Is Near.

Also reminds me of how in the 1940s and 1950s the rage of the day was that the 60s and 70s woudl be completely fueld by nuclear power.
To a large extent, progress in nuclear power was stunted for political, not scientific, reasons, by historical accident (and carelessness), much like what happened with the space shuttle program because of the Challenger disaster. (Although, astronauts have always known that space shuttles are an extremely risky business.)

Nuclear power is still around today, and is an evolving technology. The main problem is figuring out what to do with the waste. Solar power and fuel cells are currently of relatively small importance because they are still in the early stages of development, but eventually they will massively overtake fossil fuels as our main energy source.

Predictions generally are a little bit of fact mix with hope, and a lot of hype.
Right. Nobody knows the future. It doesn't hurt to speculate, as long as we keep in mind that it is speculation.
 
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There's no actual reason to clone other than to say "hey we did it!"

What WOULD be beneficial and helpful would be to clone specific cells or body parts. The list, at least in America, of people who need kidneys alone is ridiculous. Instead of complaining about stem cell research, we could use already existing cells to make essential cells and tissues that could save thousands of lives.
 
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In a world that is considered over populated for the amount of food available, why would you clone? A lot of people in this world spend a lot of money on trying to live longer. I fear cloning will be looked at as a means of supplying body parts for the original. If you needed a heart transplant, you would prefer a heart that is a perfect match. The ethics against cloning will probably be out weighed by the benefits. This is why the Christian belief that the eternal life here after is more important than our earthly existence, negates the fear of death. So a Christian wouldn't want cloning. If you believed you were going to hell you would want cloning.
There's no actual reason to clone other than to say "hey we did it!"

What WOULD be beneficial and helpful would be to clone specific cells or body parts. The list, at least in America, of people who need kidneys alone is ridiculous. Instead of complaining about stem cell research, we could use already existing cells to make essential cells and tissues that could save thousands of lives.
Right, although we are learning to change adult cells into stem cells now, so the ethical ''dilemma'' is quickly losing its relevance. Arguments such as the above that Christians should oppose organ cloning are cruel and ignorant, and betray indifference to the widespread reality of human sickness and suffering. Lying about it just being a live-forever scheme by rich atheists while ignoring the potential for healing to hundreds of millions suffering pain, disease, and death on a daily basis is exactly the kind of backwards Luddite thinking that gave us the Dark Ages. Clearly we'll have to add brains to the list of organs in short supply.
 
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thimsrebma

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I heard of something called cloning people, YOUR ABLE TO DO THAT???? well I have seen two people that have cloned themselves and they became their kid and the kids are brother and sister in the family....weird right. I wonder what is going on in this century...well hitler wanted to but failed...so what would we do if this happens???


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Where did you see these two clones?
 
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Crazy4GODword

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Who told you they were clones?

Are they really trustworthy people?
where is that post you quoted from me....i don't have a post that says together in their house....uuuum you might have some explaining to do sister :p
 
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Crazy4GODword

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people....people. They claim that they are and they say they look identical but your right how do we know it is real. ya know cloning....how can it be real
 
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people....people. They claim that they are and they say they look identical but your right how do we know it is real. ya know cloning....how can it be real
Cloning a human has never been attempted, so it would require groundbreaking new work, funding, a staff of expert professional scientists, facilities, time, not to mention an impossible level of secrecy to pull off something which would be highly illegal, scandalous, and sensational. (In other words, they were fibbing.)
 
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HeavenwithinYOU

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LET US NOT worry about WHAT IFS... LET US fast and pray and put away imaginations and make sure that the SPIRIT of Christ is Living within us, I mean, the LITERAL Spirit of Christ that is there ONLY IF ONE CAN SAY: I AM ONE WITH GOD!! AND CHRIST!

[FONT=&quot]•John 17:21 - Jesus said: "That all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be IN us."

[/FONT] • 2 Peter 2:2 - "Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute."


[FONT=&quot]• Ephesians 2:14 - For he himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new man out of the two, thus making peace, and in this one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility.[/FONT]