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we would be lost....just like the rest of those "lost" end up in hell
Jesus said the prodigal son was dead, and lost (Luke 15:24, 32).
notice even Jesus said this son was "lost"
is a dead son and a lost son any better off than no son at all?
James says, "Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him; let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins" (5:19-20)
some on here have said "Once born, one can never be unborn." but the logical contradictory of birth is not unbirth, but death.
A child may die. "Adam . . . was the son of God" (Luke 3:38), yet God said, "In the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die" (Gen. 2:17). Of course, false security was offered, even in the Garden, for the serpent assured the woman, "Ye shall not surely die" (Gen. 3:4).
Jesus said the prodigal son was dead, and lost (Luke 15:24, 32).
notice even Jesus said this son was "lost"
is a dead son and a lost son any better off than no son at all?
James says, "Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him; let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins" (5:19-20)
some on here have said "Once born, one can never be unborn." but the logical contradictory of birth is not unbirth, but death.
A child may die. "Adam . . . was the son of God" (Luke 3:38), yet God said, "In the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die" (Gen. 2:17). Of course, false security was offered, even in the Garden, for the serpent assured the woman, "Ye shall not surely die" (Gen. 3:4).
Anyone who is a Christian knows the answer to the question I asked you. We will be praying for you to learn the answer to the question I asked you. I think I know the reason you refuse to answer the question I asked you. I think you are in heresy. People who are not in heresy have no problem answering the question I asked you.
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In all fairness.....it is the the same word
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
lambanó: to take, receive
Original Word: λαμβάνω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: lambanó
Phonetic Spelling: (lam-ban'-o)
Definition: to take, receive
Usage: (a) I receive, get, (b) I take, lay hold of.
"The one on whom seed was sown on the rocky places, this is the man who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy
lambanó: to take, receive
Original Word: λαμβάνω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: lambanó
Phonetic Spelling: (lam-ban'-o)
Definition: to take, receive
Usage: (a) I receive, get, (b) I take, lay hold of
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
lambanó: to take, receive
Original Word: λαμβάνω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: lambanó
Phonetic Spelling: (lam-ban'-o)
Definition: to take, receive
Usage: (a) I receive, get, (b) I take, lay hold of.
"The one on whom seed was sown on the rocky places, this is the man who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy
lambanó: to take, receive
Original Word: λαμβάνω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: lambanó
Phonetic Spelling: (lam-ban'-o)
Definition: to take, receive
Usage: (a) I receive, get, (b) I take, lay hold of
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Save your prayers pal........the bible is clear...ALL believers that have trusted JESUS biblically make the kingdom of GOD, those who die in UNBELIEF into the work of Christ bust hell wide open.....and your incessant idiocy is getting old......
BELIEVERS who are saved throughout the whole word can be identified as heretics by definition of the word INSPIRED by GOD as pointed out by at least 3 people in this thread...
SO......if you have nothing to add to this thread that is of a biblical nature and significant why not go start a thread on your opinion, which by definition makes you a heretic
BELIEVERS who are saved throughout the whole word can be identified as heretics by definition of the word INSPIRED by GOD as pointed out by at least 3 people in this thread...
SO......if you have nothing to add to this thread that is of a biblical nature and significant why not go start a thread on your opinion, which by definition makes you a heretic
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Acts 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:
I believe the first set did...
G139
αἵρεσις
hairesis
Thayer Definition:
1) act of taking, capture: e.g. storming a city
2) choosing, choice
3) that which is chosen
4) a body of men following their own tenets (sect or party)
4a) of the Sadducees
4b) of the Pharisees
4c) of the Christians
5) dissensions arising from diversity of opinions and aims
Part of Speech: noun feminine
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from G138
Sounds a bit like denominations.
I believe the first set did...
G139
αἵρεσις
hairesis
Thayer Definition:
1) act of taking, capture: e.g. storming a city
2) choosing, choice
3) that which is chosen
4) a body of men following their own tenets (sect or party)
4a) of the Sadducees
4b) of the Pharisees
4c) of the Christians
5) dissensions arising from diversity of opinions and aims
Part of Speech: noun feminine
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from G138
Sounds a bit like denominations.
UMMM...Jesus said we will give an account of EVERY idle word. That would include what we type. I wouldn't mock about it. It shows a lack of reverence.
False accusations like calling someone a liar is VERY SERIOUS
DC and Eternally grateful said I cannot admit when I err. Well, so far I have erred ONE TIME. And I admitted my error. SO they lied.
I made an honest mistake about a post I thought he said show verses that show faith is a gift, but I misread it) and apologized, and repeated my apology I think three times and DC still repeatedly called me a liar, even though I admitted my mistake, even though it is clear from my responses that I was not lying because I was giving verses showing faith as a gift. He knew I did not lie, but made a mistake. Therefore he is a false accuser. He will answer. Note, I am not saying he will lose his salvation if he is saved. But he will give an account for every word he said here, as will I.
We shouldn't be so careless with our words and attitudes, because the judge is at the door, And all of us will give an account. We should keep that in mind when we talk to each other. I am preaching to myself as well as anyone else who acts uncharitably, like not accepting an apology for a mistake, and then continually using that mistake to POISON the Well
False accusations like calling someone a liar is VERY SERIOUS
DC and Eternally grateful said I cannot admit when I err. Well, so far I have erred ONE TIME. And I admitted my error. SO they lied.
I made an honest mistake about a post I thought he said show verses that show faith is a gift, but I misread it) and apologized, and repeated my apology I think three times and DC still repeatedly called me a liar, even though I admitted my mistake, even though it is clear from my responses that I was not lying because I was giving verses showing faith as a gift. He knew I did not lie, but made a mistake. Therefore he is a false accuser. He will answer. Note, I am not saying he will lose his salvation if he is saved. But he will give an account for every word he said here, as will I.
We shouldn't be so careless with our words and attitudes, because the judge is at the door, And all of us will give an account. We should keep that in mind when we talk to each other. I am preaching to myself as well as anyone else who acts uncharitably, like not accepting an apology for a mistake, and then continually using that mistake to POISON the Well
Either you are lying again, or you do not know the difference between an indicative mood and a subjunctive mood.
DC said "it takes years of growth and maturity to bear fruit. INDICATIVE MODE OR MOOD
you said "it MAY take years to bear fruit. Subjunctive mode or mood
I know you're not so uneducated that you don't know the difference, so YOU ARE LYING
They teach the difference between indicative and subjunctive moods, though they don't use those terms, in EARLY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Googe indicative and subjunctive modes or moods.
IT TAKES YEARS TO BEAR FRUIT is an INDICATIVE STATEMENT
IT MAY TAKE YEARS is a SUBJUNCTIVE STATEMENT
I know you know the difference, so STOP LYING
You changed his words.
DC said "it takes years of growth and maturity to bear fruit. INDICATIVE MODE OR MOOD
you said "it MAY take years to bear fruit. Subjunctive mode or mood
I know you're not so uneducated that you don't know the difference, so YOU ARE LYING
They teach the difference between indicative and subjunctive moods, though they don't use those terms, in EARLY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Googe indicative and subjunctive modes or moods.
IT TAKES YEARS TO BEAR FRUIT is an INDICATIVE STATEMENT
IT MAY TAKE YEARS is a SUBJUNCTIVE STATEMENT
I know you know the difference, so STOP LYING
You changed his words.
No one loses salvation....one is either saved or lost......there is no saved and then lost.........I do not buy what most believe about the parable of the sower and 3 of the 4 being lost......
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
lambanó: to take, receive
Original Word: λαμβάνω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: lambanó
Phonetic Spelling: (lam-ban'-o)
Definition: to take, receive
Usage: (a) I receive, get, (b) I take, lay hold of.
"The one on whom seed was sown on the rocky places, this is the man who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy
lambanó: to take, receive
Original Word: λαμβάνω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: lambanó
Phonetic Spelling: (lam-ban'-o)
Definition: to take, receive
Usage: (a) I receive, get, (b) I take, lay hold of
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
lambanó: to take, receive
Original Word: λαμβάνω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: lambanó
Phonetic Spelling: (lam-ban'-o)
Definition: to take, receive
Usage: (a) I receive, get, (b) I take, lay hold of.
"The one on whom seed was sown on the rocky places, this is the man who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy
lambanó: to take, receive
Original Word: λαμβάνω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: lambanó
Phonetic Spelling: (lam-ban'-o)
Definition: to take, receive
Usage: (a) I receive, get, (b) I take, lay hold of
I have proven either Eternally Grateful's dishonesty or his lack of parsing verbs.
You said it "takes years to bear fruit". indicative statement of fact
He said "I agree with DCON. It MAY take years to bear fruit." subjunctive statement of possibility
Plus he changed the goalpost from being used by God as in a new believer bearing fruit, (which is what the statement meant, meaning demanded BY CONTEXT of the discussion) to non believer being used of God
That is called pulling a quote out of context. A text taken out of context is a pretext.
In addition, he admitted that it doesn't necessarily take years to bear fruit, when he said that God can use a new believer's changed life to draw someone to Him, thereby refuting your statement, because if God uses someone's changed life to draw someone, that IS BEARING FRUIT>
In addition, NOWHERE In the Bible does it say "it takes years of growth and maturity to bear fruit. Strike four.
You said it "takes years to bear fruit". indicative statement of fact
He said "I agree with DCON. It MAY take years to bear fruit." subjunctive statement of possibility
Plus he changed the goalpost from being used by God as in a new believer bearing fruit, (which is what the statement meant, meaning demanded BY CONTEXT of the discussion) to non believer being used of God
That is called pulling a quote out of context. A text taken out of context is a pretext.
In addition, he admitted that it doesn't necessarily take years to bear fruit, when he said that God can use a new believer's changed life to draw someone to Him, thereby refuting your statement, because if God uses someone's changed life to draw someone, that IS BEARING FRUIT>
In addition, NOWHERE In the Bible does it say "it takes years of growth and maturity to bear fruit. Strike four.
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