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FollowHisSteps

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I get the impression Budman expects to fail and has just accepted failure because his
view is victory is impossible and a delusion of the enemy.

To him who overcomes and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations--
'He will rule them with an iron scepter; he will dash them to pieces like pottery'--
just as I have received authority from my Father. I will also give him the morning star.
Rev 2:26-28
Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey--whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?
But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you wholeheartedly obeyed the form of teaching to which you were entrusted.
You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.
Rom 6:16-18

Two worlds. Slaves to sin, not in the Spirit but the world, slaves to righteousness, in the Spirit and not of the world.

Peoples testimonies declare where they reside rather than what is actually possible, big difference.
 

Goodnewsman

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Hard to believe those pushing this OSAS false security will tell you that Judas was never saved even though Jesus called him preach
 

Goodnewsman

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If you think you can do it 24/7 and never for even one minute think of self you are decieved.

As jesus said, only God is good

Maybe we just found the root issue in your belief system
Thanks for giving me your opinion not addressing the scripture. Does the Bible tell us to do something we could not possibly do?
 

Hevosmies

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Hard to believe those pushing this OSAS false security will tell you that Judas was never saved even though Jesus called him preach
Yeah those heretics, I wonder where they got that idea?

Oh yeah, here:

John 6:64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
 

Hevosmies

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Thanks for giving me your opinion not addressing the scripture. Does the Bible tell us to do something we could not possibly do?
I believe it does.

Things like: Be ye perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

i confess i cant do that.

Does COMMAND imply ABILITY?
 

FollowHisSteps

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Hard to believe those pushing this OSAS false security will tell you that Judas was never saved even though Jesus called him preach
Without Gods word and the Holy Spirit dwelling within, almost anything can be said without realising what it means. I have seen too many back tracking positions because it seemed right to them until suddenly they realised it showed they did not know God.
 

TruthTalk

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Hi forum, news update; "Kapow!" -- "God is Faithful", last Thursday I went to the ER, had emergency surgery and Praise Jesus I am now home and doing well, always trust in the Lord no matter what your circumstance and Praise His Name always.

Love to read your insightful posts -- I will jump back in the discussion when God permits,

Psalm 145:21
My mouth will speak in praise of the LORD. Let every creature praise his holy name for ever and ever


 

Rosemaryx

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Without Gods word and the Holy Spirit dwelling within, almost anything can be said without realising what it means. I have seen too many back tracking positions because it seemed right to them until suddenly they realised it showed they did not know God.
Did you miss my post...I just want to know if you are Peter Jens...xox...
 

Goodnewsman

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Yeah those heretics, I wonder where they got that idea?

Oh yeah, here:

John 6:64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
So Jesus called Judas to preach the gospel and he wasn't even saved???

Sure Jesus knew from the beginning What Judas would do but that does not mean that Judas was a devil when Jesus called him preach the gospel

Think about what you're saying Jesus called Judas to preach and gave him power to preach and heal the sick

Peter said Judas by transgression fell but you say you was never saved
 

Goodnewsman

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Hi forum, news update; "Kapow!" -- "God is Faithful", last Thursday I went to the ER, had emergency surgery and Praise Jesus I am now home and doing well, always trust in the Lord no matter what your circumstance and Praise His Name always.

Love to read your insightful posts -- I will jump back in the discussion when God permits,

Psalm 145:21
My mouth will speak in praise of the LORD. Let every creature praise his holy name for ever and ever


Praise God you're doing well
 

FollowHisSteps

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Hi forum, news update; "Kapow!" -- "God is Faithful", last Thursday I went to the ER, had emergency surgery and Praise Jesus I am now home and doing well, always trust in the Lord no matter what your circumstance and Praise His Name always.

Love to read your insightful posts -- I will jump back in the discussion when God permits,

Psalm 145:21
My mouth will speak in praise of the LORD. Let every creature praise his holy name for ever and ever


Praise the Lord He brought you through this difficult time in His love and peace.
 

Goodnewsman

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Without Gods word and the Holy Spirit dwelling within, almost anything can be said without realising what it means. I have seen too many back tracking positions because it seemed right to them until suddenly they realised it showed they did not know God.
You are absolutely right.....there is a way that seems right but the end thereof are the ways of death
 

Rosemaryx

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I am curious, why do you think I am Peter Jens, whoever they are?
Do you want to make contact with them about something?
Maybe I can help you.....
Because you type so like him , and when I read your post , I hear the same voice...Thank you for replying...xox...
 

BillG

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My point to all this and I feel like it is being lost. (Probably my fault).

We do not have to sin..... We choose to sin
Yes you are right.

We do not have to sin, but we do and when we do we choose to do so.

Sin of commission and sin of ommision.

Whether it be commission or ommision it's still willful.
 

Chester

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Sorry

What is the 'clear plain statements of SCripture' you are referring to, from which you develop your theology? I want to see them.
OK, For example: Here is a core statement of my theology: I believe that I am saved by grace through faith and not be works.

I get that from Ephesians 2:8,9.
 

BillG

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How do you know If sin everyday?
Serious question.

How do you know if you don't?

I myself when I confess my sin before God always ask "Reveal to me any sin that I have committed that I'm not aware off"

A real eye opener when you do that, the Holy Spirit looks at your whole day and reveals stuff.

A simple example being my daughter wants to talk about something but I say no because I'm typing on this site.

Don't do it anymore.
She is more important than this site.
 

Goodnewsman

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The Bible says you do.

And for the record, I would like you to say you've gone an entire day - 24 hours - without a sinful thought, or without a sinful deed.

I want to see just how deep a hole you can dig for yourself.
[why do you want to see me dig myself in a hole......are we not brothers?]
 

Hevosmies

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OK, For example: Here is a core statement of my theology: I believe that I am saved by grace through faith and not be works.

I get that from Ephesians 2:8,9.
Where is that verse where someone had eternal life and lost it? i provided mine but you didnt accept it and my definition
can you do the same to me now?