Not By Works

[FollowHisSteps]

Unbelievers do not believe in Jesus.
But many believe there is a God.
I have met many and when I talked about Jesus they reject it but hope that if there is a God then hope that they will accepted based on good works outweighs the bad ones.

Yes the sheep among them need be like Jesus, that God loves them, he cares for them.

But to be honest and my thoughts are that it is wrong to wade in and say "You sinner you need to come to Jesus and stop sinning"

I love the approach of Jesus.
Met with sinners, dined with sinners.

Loved them where they were at, when they saw this and experienced this then their lives were changed.

We are called by God to be like Jesus, to love and to accept others where they are at.

What a privilege that God would use us.
We must never forget that, God will use us he wants to use us.
So many do not believe it bacuase they think they are dirty miserable sinners.

Just like this hot headed man

Luke 5:8
8 When Simon Peter saw it, he fell down at Jesus’ knees, saying, “Depart from me, for I am a sinful man, O Lord!”

And we know what he went on to do.

I agree, sharing in a condemnatory way about sin is not helpful.
But talking to people about how sinful behaviour traps us and enslaves us and testifying to Jesus and His
transformation is helpful because it is raising the flag of hope and salvation.

And what do you call someone who follows a belief system but has not yet met Jesus?
An unbeliever. And there are unbelievers in churchs, on this forum and in the world.

And God calls His sheep to Himself and His word through preaching and sharing the victory
and love He promises and delivers. Amen.

 

[GodsGrace101]

God made a covenant with David long before he killed Uriah....and of course you desire to hear nothing about anything that refutes your drivel

AND SO WHAT....a whole page or whole book of verses out of context used to say something they do not say does not help your case

God's word is out of context?
OK.

 

[NoNameMcgee]

@GodsGrace101

so next time instead of calling me young

or saying its cute when i post scripture
or claim im following sayings and not Gods word

or other false accusations like youve about people learning from the church of cc as if they dont worship and study themself

or claiming im against works when i always encourage good works and work my tail off

or calling me scared and insulting me more with facetious questions like "could it be you dont know the answer" when im busy trying to build my relationship with the prettiest girl on the planet in hopes for marriage

just discuss scripture and i wont snap back

 

[FollowHisSteps]

Sorry D,

I don't think any of you is that important for me to have to disagree with you.

I disagree with you because you're WRONG as wrong can be.

Souls are at stake....and you're the Pied Piper.

God help you.

This implies the man has talent I have yet to see other than
"no cigar" "do not address me" "twist ..... " etc which is not exactly a vast reportoire ......

 

[NoNameMcgee]

I almost wasn't going to reply to this...

Here's something else you could use against me in the future:

GROW UP NNM !!

This is very childish of you.

I said sayings are CUTE....not you.

And yes, if you have nothing better to do, go ahead and find all the posts where I insult someone...
but make sure they're insults because the ones above are not.

And should I also go and find all the posts where I was REALLY insulted?

Oops.
Can't.
Gotta go watch some TV.

lol ok your priority is TV

you are saying i am childish.... but you asked me to back up my claim

and called me scared because i didnt reply to an internet forum fast enough.....when youre old enough to be my grandma


i admit
your jabs
insults get to me

but only when they are followed with ridiculous things like

"you arent replying cause youre scared"


you want me to go to many posts where i responded to your insults patiently?

thats happened too

 

[dcontroversal]

I have 3 different time frames for Jesus' ministry.
They aren't exactly the same...
Also, we have to remember that the gospels are not historical books.
Some of the events are compacted to get more information in.

Anything that is written about Judas has to be seen in the light of how Jesus saw him.
Jesus considered him just like the other 12 until the end. He might have discerned at some point that Judas was going to betray Him...but I don't see it in scripture...
Too much on this has to be understood through incomplete writings.

I don't care to argue it too much.
Someone here said some use this to prove OSAS is not true.
That's pretty funny.
The N.T. is full of verses about how OSAS cannot be true...no need for Judas.

WOW.......Fran....you are slipping......the bolded takes 2nd place today concerning statements that reek a bit.....JESUS chose JUDAS on purpose to FULFILL scripture...HE KNEW full well that JUDAS would betray HIM.....I cannot believe the level of benightedness that gets posted on this site

 

[GodsGrace101]

@GodsGrace101

so next time instead of calling me young

or saying its cute when i post scripture
or claim im following sayings and not Gods word

or other false accusations like youve about people learning from the church of cc as if they dont worship and study themself

or claiming im against works when i always encourage good works and work my tail off

or calling me scared and insulting me more with facetious questions like "could it be you dont know the answer" when im busy trying to build my relationship with the prettiest girl on the planet in hopes for marriage

just discuss scripture and i wont snap back

I find most on this thread do not care to discuss scripture.
They do what you're doing above....
Personal comments,
Insults,
Misunderstandings

Yes. I do get the feeling that those that do not reply to questions don't know the answer or are afraid to post what they think. Persons that are sure of their beliefs have no problem quoting scripture and speaking about it. Use @mailmandan as a good example.

He and I do not agree (I'm still not sure of what) but he's very courteous and civil and actually posts scripture and does explain it even though I don't agree with his exegesis.

Then open your eyes to how some others here behave. All they want to do is argue.
I'm not speaking to them anymore BTW.

If you want to discuss scripture...
You POST THE SCRIPTURE
And then you exegete it.

That's how it's done.
No personal remarks about me,,,which is all I hear.

 

[dcontroversal]

Such as?

Get ready for a wall of text that states no such thing in context...........but hey..........wisdom is justified of her children....

 

[dcontroversal]

@GodsGrace101

so next time instead of calling me young

or saying its cute when i post scripture
or claim im following sayings and not Gods word

or other false accusations like youve about people learning from the church of cc as if they dont worship and study themself

or claiming im against works when i always encourage good works and work my tail off

or calling me scared and insulting me more with facetious questions like "could it be you dont know the answer" when im busy trying to build my relationship with the prettiest girl on the planet in hopes for marriage

just discuss scripture and i wont snap back

Brother it is a most difficult thing to discuss scripture with one so fickle that regularly contradicts not only scripture, but themselves as well......

 

[GodsGrace101]

lol ok your priority is TV

you are saying i am childish.... but you asked me to back up my claim

and called me scared because i didnt reply to an internet forum fast enough.....when youre old enough to be my grandma


i admit
your jabs
insults get to me

but only when they are followed with ridiculous things like

"you arent replying cause youre scared"


you want me to go to many posts where i responded to your insults patiently?

thats happened too

I'm old NNM...

But whoa Nelly!

I'm not old enough to be your grandma.
Just in case you don't believe me...which you probably don't.

 

[GodsGrace101]

lol ok your priority is TV

you are saying i am childish.... but you asked me to back up my claim

and called me scared because i didnt reply to an internet forum fast enough.....when youre old enough to be my grandma


i admit
your jabs
insults get to me

but only when they are followed with ridiculous things like

"you arent replying cause youre scared"


you want me to go to many posts where i responded to your insults patiently?

thats happened too

BTW, What's wrong with being a grandma!

And being old.

One day YOU will be old too my young friend.

I just hope you don't end up looking like this:

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[dcontroversal]

Sorry D,

I don't think any of you is that important for me to have to disagree with you.

I disagree with you because you're WRONG as wrong can be.

Souls are at stake....and you're the Pied Piper.

God help you.

Great pic of me leading the people away from your Catholic, skewed I keep my self saved rigmarole......and notice the joy on their faces after being set free from some legalistic dogma that NO one can keep.....Shall we gather at the river, the beautiful the beautiful river....gather with saints at the river.......laa lalla alllal allalala alallallalal

 

[GodsGrace101]

Brother it is a most difficult thing to discuss scripture with one so fickle that regularly contradicts not only scripture, but themselves as well......

Always talking behind my back.
And you once scolded me because I mentioned you AND TAGGED you!

Wow.
Just wow.

 

[dcontroversal]

Call me Bill.
That's my name.

Mind you I've been called many things in my life, although I can't repeat them on this site

HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHH

 

[GodsGrace101]

Great pic of me leading the people away from your Catholic, skewed I keep my self saved rigmarole......and notice the joy on their faces after being set free from some legalistic dogma that NO one can keep.....Shall we gather at the river, the beautiful the beautiful river....gather with saints at the river.......laa lalla alllal allalala alallallalal

Which dogma would that be?
Could you explain it please?
Would you mind posting what catholics believe about salvation and staying saved?

You hate them so much...it would be nice to hear what you think about them...

which is wrong,,,I'm sure.

 

[dcontroversal]

Always talking behind my back.
And you once scolded me because I mentioned you AND TAGGED you!

Wow.
Just wow.

You tag me on a regular basis and or reference me regularly FRAN......the victim card does not work on an open forum.........nice try though....

 

[GodsGrace101]

HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHH

Yeah.
@BillG used to be a funny guy.
If you only knew.
He's become much too serious on this forum.

 

[dcontroversal]

Which dogma would that be?
Could you explain it please?
Would you mind posting what catholics believe about salvation and staying saved?

You hate them so much...it would be nice to hear what you think about them...

which is wrong,,,I'm sure.

I hate no one Fran, including you.....but what you and they espouse and peddle on the other hand....I despise........................with a passion I might add.

 

[GodsGrace101]

You tag me on a regular basis and or reference me regularly FRAN......the victim card does not work on an open forum.........nice try though....

All my friends here know I'm victimized.

 

[dcontroversal]

Yeah.
@BillG used to be a funny guy.
If you only knew.
He's become much too serious on this forum.

He is still funny at times.............and honest to boot