The hypocrisy of the left Part: I

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Jeauris

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ON THE HYPOCRISY OF THE SECULAR/COMMUNIST/FASCIST LEFT

The One and only hope for men, America, The Church: Jesus Christ, and repentance from a nation that has rebelled against and turned away from God for 70 years-

12And the LORD appeared to Solomon by night, and said unto him, I have heard your prayer, and have chosen this place for myself for a house of sacrifice.
13If I shut up heaven that there be no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people;
14If my people, who are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
15Now my eyes shall be open, and my ears attentive unto the prayer that is made in this place.
16For now have I chosen and sanctified this house, that my name may be there forever: and my eyes and my heart shall be there perpetually.
17And as for you, if you will walk before me, as David your father walked, and do according to all that I have commanded you, and shall observe my statutes and my judgments;
18Then will I establish the throne of your kingdom, according as I have covenanted with David your father, saying, There shall not fail you a man to be ruler in Israel.
19But if you turn away, and forsake my statutes and my commandments, which I have set before you, and shall go and serve other gods, and worship them;
20Then will I pluck them up by the roots out of my land which I have given them; and this house, which I have sanctified for my name, will I cast out of my sight, and will make it to be a proverb and a byword among all nations.
21And this house, which is exalted, shall be an astonishment to everyone that passes by it; so that he shall say, Why has the LORD done thus unto this land, and unto this house?
22And it shall be answered, Because they forsook the LORD God of their fathers, who brought them forth out of the land of Egypt, and laid hold on other gods, and worshiped them, and served them: therefore has he brought all this evil upon them.

I. Satan - through his Pharisees of that day:

22Then was brought unto him one possessed with a demon, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, so that the blind and dumb both spoke and saw.
23And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?
24But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow does not cast out demons, but by Beelzebub the prince of the demons.
25And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
26And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
27And if I by Beelzebub cast out demons, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.
28But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.
29Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.
30He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathers not with me scatters abroad.
The Unpardonable Sin
31Therefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven unto men.
32And whosoever speaks a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come.


II. Hitler’s socialist/communist/workers, Nazi Party:

In 1933, Joseph Goebbels, following closely the recommendations of Edward Bernays, nephew of Sigmund Freud, created some of the most effective propaganda the world has ever seen. Bernays’ prescription demanded the complete domination of communications media to stamp out any opposing view, the participation of artisans, celebrities, academic authorities and community leaders to influence popular opinion at a group level, and a Freudian appeal to base instincts – the need for food and shelter, community and leadership, and the influence of entertainment and fashion – to promote conformity among the German populace.

Some famous quotes from Goebbels revealing the extreme, relentless hypocrisy of Satan, his servants in the past and represented worldwide by the Marxist New Green World Order:

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
 
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jaybird88

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#2
ON THE HYPOCRISY OF THE SECULAR/COMMUNIST/FASCIST LEFT

The One and only hope for men, America, The Church: Jesus Christ, and repentance from a nation that has rebelled against and turned away from God for 70 years-

12And the LORD appeared to Solomon by night, and said unto him, I have heard your prayer, and have chosen this place for myself for a house of sacrifice.
13If I shut up heaven that there be no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people;
14If my people, who are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
15Now my eyes shall be open, and my ears attentive unto the prayer that is made in this place.
16For now have I chosen and sanctified this house, that my name may be there forever: and my eyes and my heart shall be there perpetually.
17And as for you, if you will walk before me, as David your father walked, and do according to all that I have commanded you, and shall observe my statutes and my judgments;
18Then will I establish the throne of your kingdom, according as I have covenanted with David your father, saying, There shall not fail you a man to be ruler in Israel.
19But if you turn away, and forsake my statutes and my commandments, which I have set before you, and shall go and serve other gods, and worship them;
20Then will I pluck them up by the roots out of my land which I have given them; and this house, which I have sanctified for my name, will I cast out of my sight, and will make it to be a proverb and a byword among all nations.
21And this house, which is exalted, shall be an astonishment to everyone that passes by it; so that he shall say, Why has the LORD done thus unto this land, and unto this house?
22And it shall be answered, Because they forsook the LORD God of their fathers, who brought them forth out of the land of Egypt, and laid hold on other gods, and worshiped them, and served them: therefore has he brought all this evil upon them.

I. Satan - through his Pharisees of that day:

22Then was brought unto him one possessed with a demon, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, so that the blind and dumb both spoke and saw.
23And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?
24But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow does not cast out demons, but by Beelzebub the prince of the demons.
25And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
26And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
27And if I by Beelzebub cast out demons, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.
28But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.
29Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.
30He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathers not with me scatters abroad.
The Unpardonable Sin
31Therefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven unto men.
32And whosoever speaks a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come.


II. Hitler’s socialist/communist/workers, Nazi Party:

In 1933, Joseph Goebbels, following closely the recommendations of Edward Bernays, nephew of Sigmund Freud, created some of the most effective propaganda the world has ever seen. Bernays’ prescription demanded the complete domination of communications media to stamp out any opposing view, the participation of artisans, celebrities, academic authorities and community leaders to influence popular opinion at a group level, and a Freudian appeal to base instincts – the need for food and shelter, community and leadership, and the influence of entertainment and fashion – to promote conformity among the German populace.

Some famous quotes from Goebbels revealing the extreme, relentless hypocrisy of Satan, his servants in the past and represented worldwide by the Marxist New Green World Order:

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Henry Ford, Prescot Bush were big supporters of Hitler and the nazis. most of the nazi eugenic experiment ideas came from the Rockefeller family. but these guys were not left, they are as far right as you can get.
 
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The hypocrisy of the left? That's really interesting considering that the right supports Donald Trump. Honestly, how is this even possible? The richest 20 people in this country have the same amount of money as a 190 million of the poorest people combined. So, Jesus wants 190 million people to go without health care, to never have enough money to buy a house, to never be able to see a dentist? That is what Jesus wants? We are talking about 190 million people having to suffer for 20 people to have more then they can ever spend. When you compare the america that provides basic health care to a Nazi Germany of the 1930's? Ok, you guys run with that and the rest of america is going the opposite direction.
 

gb9

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The hypocrisy of the left? That's really interesting considering that the right supports Donald Trump. Honestly, how is this even possible? The richest 20 people in this country have the same amount of money as a 190 million of the poorest people combined. So, Jesus wants 190 million people to go without health care, to never have enough money to buy a house, to never be able to see a dentist? That is what Jesus wants? We are talking about 190 million people having to suffer for 20 people to have more then they can ever spend. When you compare the america that provides basic health care to a Nazi Germany of the 1930's? Ok, you guys run with that and the rest of america is going the opposite direction.
when you ' opposite direction " you mean " socialism" and open borders, which within 10 years will ruin the economy forever.

that is the destination of your opposite direction.
 

TM19782017

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I personally have grown so tired of the left vs. right fighting.

I have come to the possible realization that these battles have been and always will be for the sake of keeping balance.
Balance is essential for the smooth operation of many things.
Isn't it baffling how elections are almost always so close?
 

gb9

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Jan 18, 2011
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#6
I personally have grown so tired of the left vs. right fighting.

I have come to the possible realization that these battles have been and always will be for the sake of keeping balance.
Balance is essential for the smooth operation of many things.
Isn't it baffling how elections are almost always so close?
the left and right battle is part of the social construct.

many do not understand that , other than a few individuals , dems and republicans are 2 sides of the same coin.

of course, start trying to explain this to people who are sound asleep, you have a fight on your hands...…..
 

TM19782017

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the left and right battle is part of the social construct.

many do not understand that , other than a few individuals , dems and republicans are 2 sides of the same coin.

of course, start trying to explain this to people who are sound asleep, you have a fight on your hands...…..
Agreed....but so many believe they must choose a side and the fighting never stops....

I stay away from politics but I will say this, if I were to classify myself as something it would be an independent.

All decisions must factor in time we live in currently...A decision that worked 30 years ago will not necessarily have the same effect now.....All politicians must honestly assess the current issues and how they effect the majority before choosing a side.
Some times the way to sway is right and other times it may be left.

Also, the stock market is not an honest assessment of average joe's life.
 

memyselfi

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The hypocrisy of the left? That's really interesting considering that the right supports Donald Trump. Honestly, how is this even possible? The richest 20 people in this country have the same amount of money as a 190 million of the poorest people combined. So, Jesus wants 190 million people to go without health care, to never have enough money to buy a house, to never be able to see a dentist? That is what Jesus wants? We are talking about 190 million people having to suffer for 20 people to have more then they can ever spend. When you compare the america that provides basic health care to a Nazi Germany of the 1930's? Ok, you guys run with that and the rest of america is going the opposite direction.
Your argument is just not logical nor makes a real argument... Federal tax returns cape is 500,000; so people that make over that and file take returns are still keeping their money.... why do you think millionaires/ billionaires support socialism!?!.... They sill don't have to PAY IN TAXES!!!!
 
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kaylagrl

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ON THE HYPOCRISY OF THE SECULAR/COMMUNIST/FASCIST LEFT

The One and only hope for men, America, The Church: Jesus Christ, and repentance from a nation that has rebelled against and turned away from God for 70 years-

12And the LORD appeared to Solomon by night, and said unto him, I have heard your prayer, and have chosen this place for myself for a house of sacrifice.
13If I shut up heaven that there be no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people;
14If my people, who are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
15Now my eyes shall be open, and my ears attentive unto the prayer that is made in this place.
16For now have I chosen and sanctified this house, that my name may be there forever: and my eyes and my heart shall be there perpetually.
17And as for you, if you will walk before me, as David your father walked, and do according to all that I have commanded you, and shall observe my statutes and my judgments;
18Then will I establish the throne of your kingdom, according as I have covenanted with David your father, saying, There shall not fail you a man to be ruler in Israel.
19But if you turn away, and forsake my statutes and my commandments, which I have set before you, and shall go and serve other gods, and worship them;
20Then will I pluck them up by the roots out of my land which I have given them; and this house, which I have sanctified for my name, will I cast out of my sight, and will make it to be a proverb and a byword among all nations.
21And this house, which is exalted, shall be an astonishment to everyone that passes by it; so that he shall say, Why has the LORD done thus unto this land, and unto this house?
22And it shall be answered, Because they forsook the LORD God of their fathers, who brought them forth out of the land of Egypt, and laid hold on other gods, and worshiped them, and served them: therefore has he brought all this evil upon them.

I. Satan - through his Pharisees of that day:

22Then was brought unto him one possessed with a demon, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, so that the blind and dumb both spoke and saw.
23And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?
24But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow does not cast out demons, but by Beelzebub the prince of the demons.
25And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
26And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
27And if I by Beelzebub cast out demons, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.
28But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.
29Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.
30He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathers not with me scatters abroad.
The Unpardonable Sin
31Therefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven unto men.
32And whosoever speaks a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come.


II. Hitler’s socialist/communist/workers, Nazi Party:

In 1933, Joseph Goebbels, following closely the recommendations of Edward Bernays, nephew of Sigmund Freud, created some of the most effective propaganda the world has ever seen. Bernays’ prescription demanded the complete domination of communications media to stamp out any opposing view, the participation of artisans, celebrities, academic authorities and community leaders to influence popular opinion at a group level, and a Freudian appeal to base instincts – the need for food and shelter, community and leadership, and the influence of entertainment and fashion – to promote conformity among the German populace.

Some famous quotes from Goebbels revealing the extreme, relentless hypocrisy of Satan, his servants in the past and represented worldwide by the Marxist New Green World Order:

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

I personally don't know how anyone can support the things the Dems are pushing today and call themselves Christians. It baffles me. They have made it a religion. Support for abortion on demand, socialism,open borders,gay marriage,transgender bathrooms, and boycotting Israel. Just listen to them speak,especially the youth. This country is going down a dangerous road and I can't believe some Christians can't see it. It's mind boggling.
 
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jaybird88

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I personally have grown so tired of the left vs. right fighting.

I have come to the possible realization that these battles have been and always will be for the sake of keeping balance.
Balance is essential for the smooth operation of many things.
Isn't it baffling how elections are almost always so close?
i noticed that about the elections a while back. all the way back to Kennedy/Nixon. people liked kennedy and everyone hated nixon. and yet the race went "down to the wire". they must think we are really stupid. i remember when bush jr was elected, he couldnt even do the traditional drive through because the crowds were throwing eggs, lettuce and all other food at his car. they had to step on the gas and get out of there before the crowds ripped him apart, thats how many people hated bush, yet we are told everyone voted for him??
 
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jaybird88

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I personally don't know how anyone can support the things the Dems are pushing today and call themselves Christians. It baffles me. They have made it a religion. Support for abortion on demand, socialism,open borders,gay marriage,transgender bathrooms, and boycotting Israel. Just listen to them speak,especially the youth. This country is going down a dangerous road and I can't believe some Christians can't see it. It's mind boggling.
i agree, the Dems are full of it, but i also dont see how anyone can support the GOP, war in iraq, 911 coverup, walstreet bailout, ruining public schools, privatizing power and water municipalities and prisons, and stomping down the poor working man.
they both only serve the one percent.
 
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kaylagrl

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i agree, the Dems are full of it, but i also dont see how anyone can support the GOP, war in iraq, 911 coverup, walstreet bailout, ruining public schools, privatizing power and water municipalities and prisons, and stomping down the poor working man.
they both only serve the one percent.
Well let's take them one by one. War in Iraq,it comes down to this,these people have been warring against each other since Bible times. I frankly don't care what strategy is used but which party. The only thing that will bring peace to the middle east is Jesus second coming. Otherwise it is a lost cause. You'd have to be a little clearer what you mean by 911 coverup,not sure what you're driving at there. I'm not from the US and didn't attend schools here so I can't really speak to that. No one has stomped down the poor working man than the left and no system has lifted more people out of poverty than capitalism. Socialism doesn't work. None of these things rises to the severity of abortion, the acceptance of gay marriage/trans and 60+ other genders, boycotting Israel and open borders.

p.s How are things with your gf? Hope things are going well.
 
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jaybird88

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Well let's take them one by one. War in Iraq,it comes down to this,these people have been warring against each other since Bible times. I frankly don't care what strategy is used but which party. The only thing that will bring peace to the middle east is Jesus second coming. Otherwise it is a lost cause. You'd have to be a little clearer what you mean by 911 coverup,not sure what you're driving at there. I'm not from the US and didn't attend schools here so I can't really speak to that. No one has stomped down the poor working man than the left and no system has lifted more people out of poverty than capitalism. Socialism doesn't work. None of these things rises to the severity of abortion, the acceptance of gay marriage/trans and 60+ other genders, boycotting Israel and open borders.

p.s How are things with your gf? Hope things are going well.
the war in the middle east is complex.
911 - there were lots of questions about what went on and the bush administration basically told the people to sit down and shut up.

capitalism with no social restriction gives you USA circa 1900 where families worked 14 hr days 6 days a week for a one room teniment home that many times they had to share with other families. and dont forget the kids had to work to. low wages, no safety, lose your arm in an accident you were tossed aside like garbage. thats capitalism in its purest form.

the whole point of these parties is to divide the people against each other. one party says they are for working men, the other for Christian values. all working men i know are Christian, divides each of us right through the middle.

we are doing great, she says i am to immature but that will never change. thank you for asking. hope all is well with you and your family.
 
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kaylagrl

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the war in the middle east is complex.
911 - there were lots of questions about what went on and the bush administration basically told the people to sit down and shut up.

capitalism with no social restriction gives you USA circa 1900 where families worked 14 hr days 6 days a week for a one room teniment home that many times they had to share with other families. and dont forget the kids had to work to. low wages, no safety, lose your arm in an accident you were tossed aside like garbage. thats capitalism in its purest form.

the whole point of these parties is to divide the people against each other. one party says they are for working men, the other for Christian values. all working men i know are Christian, divides each of us right through the middle.

we are doing great, she says i am to immature but that will never change. thank you for asking. hope all is well with you and your family.

I just don't believe there will be peace in the ME until Christ's return. I think 911 was pretty straight forward. But I do understand there are a lot of theories out there. I haven't seen any that have changed my mind yet.

Capitalism has still lifted more people out of poverty than any other system. Socialism only gives false hope. And in my opinion it's theft. I think it will be the downfall of the country if the left gets in again. I don't think the parties have ever been as far apart. The divide is so wide,I don't see it ever coming together again. There is just no common ground.

Glad you're doing well. Tell you're gf that man are a little immature compared to women,but that's why we love em'. Lol. Hubby and I are doing very well thank you.
 

cobalt1959

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The hypocrisy of the left? That's really interesting considering that the right supports Donald Trump. Honestly, how is this even possible? The richest 20 people in this country have the same amount of money as a 190 million of the poorest people combined. So, Jesus wants 190 million people to go without health care, to never have enough money to buy a house, to never be able to see a dentist? That is what Jesus wants? We are talking about 190 million people having to suffer for 20 people to have more then they can ever spend. When you compare the america that provides basic health care to a Nazi Germany of the 1930's? Ok, you guys run with that and the rest of america is going the opposite direction.
Funny.

The False Dichotomy Hits from the Left just keep on coming. Always the whining from Progressives that wealth is inherently evil, so take money away from the wealthy, who earned it, and give it to people who refuse to work. That is what you actually advocate, but it doesn't sound so good when stripped down to it's actual meaning. It is also false to continually attempt to paint the majority of America as supporting the Progressive agenda and wanting to adopt socialism. They don't. Socialism is still a hard-sell because the majority of America doesn't want it. That has nothing to do with Trump. That has to do with the fact that Trump is in office. The majority of America does no want to work a job every day and then hand an ever-increasing amount of money over to the government so that the government can then hand it to people that refuse to work and spend it on endless entitlements.

A person who has a place to live, a car, food, utilities and a cell phone is not poor. What the Left uses as it's standard of "poor" isn't it's actual meaning. The Left has been throwing money at the "poor" since the 60's, in ever-increasing amounts and all that money doesn't seem to have eliminated poverty. What you actually advocate is rewarding people who will not work by forcefully taking money away from people who work for it, and handing it to people who will not work for it. That concept isn't found in the Bible anywhere. You remember the Bible, right? That book that Liberals only use when they think they can re-word what it says to support their agenda?
 

cobalt1959

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the war in the middle east is complex.
911 - there were lots of questions about what went on and the bush administration basically told the people to sit down and shut up.

capitalism with no social restriction gives you USA circa 1900 where families worked 14 hr days 6 days a week for a one room teniment home that many times they had to share with other families. and dont forget the kids had to work to. low wages, no safety, lose your arm in an accident you were tossed aside like garbage. thats capitalism in its purest form.

the whole point of these parties is to divide the people against each other. one party says they are for working men, the other for Christian values. all working men i know are Christian, divides each of us right through the middle.

we are doing great, she says i am to immature but that will never change. thank you for asking. hope all is well with you and your family.
The Middle East is not complex at all. Islam has been warring with itself, and others for over 1300 years. It's what they do. It's what their religion teaches them to do. The 911 statement smacks of the always-stupid "inside job" rational, which is 100% bogus.

And now we have a society with a gutted middle class where people work two jobs to support themselves and almost half the country takes those families tax money and uses it to sit and home, do nothing, and not contribute to the system in any way. No different than the 1900's at all, is it? Except that in the 1900's you didn't have a large swath of the populace living off of the taxpayers through endless entitlement programs. In the 1900's you didn't have the country murdering millions of people a year through abortion. Those people aren't just poor, they are dead. Progressives don't care about that at all. They openly praise the concept as a "right.'"
 
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jaybird88

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The Middle East is not complex at all. Islam has been warring with itself, and others for over 1300 years. It's what they do.
so has Christianity. 500 years back when Christian Europe was persecuting Jews and stealing their homes and lands, it was Muslims that offered them a home and free will to worship.
It's what their religion teaches them to do.
not really, its actually the acts of corrupt greedy men in persuit of wealth power and influence. they use religion to manipulate the masses into their schemes, just like the crusades.

The 911 statement smacks of the always-stupid "inside job" rational, which is 100% bogus.
i love how build 7 fell without a single plain touching it, how every political statement was scripted, how no skyscraper had ever fell down due to planes hitting them before, how both towers fell in the exact way as if they were demo, and on and on and on. one would have to be pretty "stupid" to not notice such things and ask questions, maybe its just best to go back to watching reality tv and the latest hollywood celebrity scandal.

And now we have a society with a gutted middle class where people work two jobs to support themselves and almost half the country takes those families tax money and uses it to sit and home, do nothing, and not contribute to the system in any way. No different than the 1900's at all, is it? Except that in the 1900's you didn't have a large swath of the populace living off of the taxpayers through endless entitlement programs. In the 1900's you didn't have the country murdering millions of people a year through abortion. Those people aren't just poor, they are dead. Progressives don't care about that at all. They openly praise the concept as a "right.'"
or how about that corporate welfare that goes to walmart, con agra and every other billion dollar company.
here is an interesting fact about corporate welfare, it is about double that of welfare for the poor. in other words the money that only benefits half of one percent is double that of hundreds of millions.
and here is another interesting fact, if you remove that welfare for the poor it wouldnt be enough to make a difference, gallon of milk will not change, your paycheck would not be bigger, this is just propaganda from the elite to justify taking that money as well, money from the single moms, elderly, disabled, the poorest of the poor. what kind of scumbag would want to take money from a disabled person? sad thing is so many fall for this hook line and sinker.
 

cobalt1959

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so has Christianity. 500 years back when Christian Europe was persecuting Jews and stealing their homes and lands, it was Muslims that offered them a home and free will to worship.

not really, its actually the acts of corrupt greedy men in persuit of wealth power and influence. they use religion to manipulate the masses into their schemes, just like the crusades.



i love how build 7 fell without a single plain touching it, how every political statement was scripted, how no skyscraper had ever fell down due to planes hitting them before, how both towers fell in the exact way as if they were demo, and on and on and on. one would have to be pretty "stupid" to not notice such things and ask questions, maybe its just best to go back to watching reality tv and the latest hollywood celebrity scandal.



or how about that corporate welfare that goes to walmart, con agra and every other billion dollar company.
here is an interesting fact about corporate welfare, it is about double that of welfare for the poor. in other words the money that only benefits half of one percent is double that of hundreds of millions.
and here is another interesting fact, if you remove that welfare for the poor it wouldnt be enough to make a difference, gallon of milk will not change, your paycheck would not be bigger, this is just propaganda from the elite to justify taking that money as well, money from the single moms, elderly, disabled, the poorest of the poor. what kind of scumbag would want to take money from a disabled person? sad thing is so many fall for this hook line and sinker.
I see you use the standard canned responses. and all of them are non-starters. Your manta seems to be the standard one from the Left, i.e.:

"EAT THE RICH! EAT THE RICH! EAT THE RICH!"

Throw money at "the poor" and poverty will instantly disappear. As if that would actually solve the problem. It hasn't solved it in 50 years and it isn't going to solve it now. The people you call poor aren't actually poor and no person advocating what you advocate will even touch that point because to do so would completely undermine your own false premise.

500 years ago, Europe was persecuting Jews at the behest of the RCC, not Christianity. It's always a non-starter to say the Church persecuted the Jews at that time just because the institution doing the persecuting called itself a "church." Since Jesus never encourages us to go around killing people, what the Catholic church did during that time obviously wasn't Christian and it wasn't done because of Biblical teachings. Muslims didn't offered the persecuted anything. Evidently, you haven't study the history of Islam.

I see by your statement about building 7 which is "standard response Nu. 2" that you are an Inside Job conspiracist. If you can't grasp what actually happened on 911, your responses to other connected issues are going to be suspect as well.
 
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I see you use the standard canned responses. and all of them are non-starters. Your manta seems to be the standard one from the Left, i.e.:

"EAT THE RICH! EAT THE RICH! EAT THE RICH!"
Have no idea what that means, my 12 yr old is not here to interpret.

Throw money at "the poor" and poverty will instantly disappear. As if that would actually solve the problem. It hasn't solved it in 50 years and it isn't going to solve it now. The people you call poor aren't actually poor and no person advocating what you advocate will even touch that point because to do so would completely undermine your own false premise.
no one said throw money at the poor, its about taking care of those in need, like Jesus taught. There is a 90 yr old lady that lives down the road from me, why dont you go tell her to get off her lazy but and go out and earn her fair share. Lol

500 years ago, Europe was persecuting Jews at the behest of the RCC, not Christianity. It's always a non-starter to say the Church persecuted the Jews at that time just because the institution doing the persecuting called itself a "church." Since Jesus never encourages us to go around killing people, what the Catholic church did during that time obviously wasn't Christian and it wasn't done because of Biblical teachings. Muslims didn't offered the persecuted anything. Evidently, you haven't study the history of Islam.
John Chrysostom (344-407 A.D.) –
“The synagogue is worse than a brothel…it is the den of scoundrels and the repair of wild beasts…the temple of demons devoted to idolatrous cults…the refuge of brigands and dabauchees, and the cavern of devils. It is a criminal assembly of Jews…a place of meeting for the assassins of Christ… a house worse than a drinking shop…a den of thieves, a house of ill fame, a dwelling of iniquity, the refuge of devils, a gulf and a abyss of perdition."…"I would say the same things about their souls… As for me, I hate the synagogue…I hate the Jews for the same reason.”

this was before there was ever a RCC / protestant divide. It was just the church. Trying to blame antisemitism on Catholics as if it does not exist in the protestant churches is a joke. I grew up baptist and the majority of them talk pretty ugly about Jews.

It sounds like your saying when Muslims practice hate we can point our finger and call them the devil, when our own faith is guilty of the exact same thing, we ignore it. Wow.

I see by your statement about building 7 which is "standard response Nu. 2" that you are an Inside Job conspiracist. If you can't grasp what actually happened on 911, your responses to other connected issues are going to be suspect as well.
in other words you have no response with any substance and when it comes to government everyone should just sit down, shut up and do what they are told. Lol bless your heart.
 

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Have no idea what that means, my 12 yr old is not here to interpret.


no one said throw money at the poor, its about taking care of those in need, like Jesus taught. There is a 90 yr old lady that lives down the road from me, why dont you go tell her to get off her lazy but and go out and earn her fair share. Lol



John Chrysostom (344-407 A.D.) –
“The synagogue is worse than a brothel…it is the den of scoundrels and the repair of wild beasts…the temple of demons devoted to idolatrous cults…the refuge of brigands and dabauchees, and the cavern of devils. It is a criminal assembly of Jews…a place of meeting for the assassins of Christ… a house worse than a drinking shop…a den of thieves, a house of ill fame, a dwelling of iniquity, the refuge of devils, a gulf and a abyss of perdition."…"I would say the same things about their souls… As for me, I hate the synagogue…I hate the Jews for the same reason.”

this was before there was ever a RCC / protestant divide. It was just the church. Trying to blame antisemitism on Catholics as if it does not exist in the protestant churches is a joke. I grew up baptist and the majority of them talk pretty ugly about Jews.

It sounds like your saying when Muslims practice hate we can point our finger and call them the devil, when our own faith is guilty of the exact same thing, we ignore it. Wow.



in other words you have no response with any substance and when it comes to government everyone should just sit down, shut up and do what they are told. Lol bless your heart.
I see that your preferred way of dealing with topics you can't answer cogently with a logical reply is to insult people. I'm sure it's fun for you, but it doesn't solve your problem, in that, you are displaying a large lack of basic Christian values, humility, and most of all: Grace. Not to mention common courtesy. "my 12 yr old is not here to interpret." Wonderful. That really got me. Sounds like something a 5-year old, or a Millennial would say. Eat the rich is not a difficult concept and if you've never heard the term, Google is your friend . . .

The standard Liberal answer for "helping the poor" is always the same: Tax the working class more. It's the only answer they have. Of course, they never define exactly who "the poor" are, what the definition is. They do nothing to create jobs or try and keep jobs from being out-sourced. They do nothing in the way of incentives to make sure that people on entitlements are responsible for their own actions at some point. I'm not talking about the Elderly. Or the infirmed. Or the mentally ill, and of course, you would already know that. But to defend your point, you have to poison the well, and make it look like people who do not support your flawed premise are mean and cold-hearted. It's a seedy tactic that marks you for exactly what kind of debater you are. One who doesn't deal well with points that don't support your worldview. But people cozied up with the Left can NEVER adequately deal with the fact that 99% of the entitlements in this country are given to people who refuse to work. Defend that concept for me Biblically. The Bible clearly tells us that we are responsible for taking care of ourselves. It tells us to earn our own keep. The New Testament Church was giving aid to those in need within it's ranks. The Church is not held responsible for giving financial aid to the entire world. It is supposed to deliver the Gospel and any aid that can be delivered is an out-growth of what is supposed to be the spread of more and more people who come to Christ through the Gospel. We are not called on, Biblically, to force the populace to support "the poor" through theft in the form of endless taxes. If you think you can lay out a case for that kind of rational from the Bible, go for it. Show me the money instead of carping about "the poor" and telling me I wouldn't help an elderly person in need. I support children in South America, so now would be a good time to say that your statement about a 90 year-old woman was ill advised. Even without that, there are approx. 100,000,000 unemployed people in the United States that I already support with my tax dollars. Just how many more people do you expect me to support?

John Chrysostom was a Catholic Bishop, so you shot yourself in the foot there, Sport. I was raised in a Southern Baptist and I never heard antisemitism there. You can't confer antisemitism on the entire Protestant Church because you heard it in your church. Is that the way you make your determinations? "Well, I saw it that one time in my Church, so it must be all over, and has been all over for 1000's of years." You might want to alter the way you process information.

I don't remember calling Muslims evil. Islam is evil. It is a satanic doctrine, so there is no question it is evil. My faith isn't guilty of anything because I've never gone around killing people in the name of Christ. I don't know anyone who has. I'm only responsible for my actions and even then, you, again can't deal with the fact that the Bible does not teach killing people for the faith, but Islam clearly does. Have you studied Islam at all? Or you are basing your false dichotomies on . . . what?

I'm not stupid enough to take the thread down the Derail Trail of 911 Inside Job Conspiracy Theory. So I'll pass on that dangling bit of bait. If you want to start a thread defending that Pantomime Horse go for it.