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Yesterday I concluded there was to much misunderstanding between Christians suffering persecution and the anger of God:
"The wrath of God revealed from heaven against all lukewarm and divided people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness."
I had concluded to let go of this post, but to my surprise today there was a wave of understanding from unknown soldiers, so that I had to reevaluate. This was intended to be about coming persecution against the Church prophesied for the end time of trouble.
But since there is misunderstanding with people drawn to mention the anger of God, I concluded to go along in that direction.
Now we are addressing God's anger towards those who hold the Truth and live a double life.
Jesus is making intercession for us: in a dream a man saw Jesus breaking chains that bound Him, Jesus angry and spiting out the lukewarm who think they know Him but don't and wont repent. Revelation 3:15
This man saw Jesus returning to earth angry <
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Part of the interpretation of the first dream:
To be seated with the Lord, is to enter into rest, to turn our will to the will of God. It's relevant that you have to get past your fear to be there: in the will of God we don't decide the outcome. The Lord is calling us to a place of maturity in Him, and spitting out the lukewarm self confident as they cant follow Him in that condition.
Part of the interpretation of second dream
Asking the Lord's will for your life and waking up from the dream: waking up is the interpretation, if we are not awake spiritually we are still living for ourselves in an illusion that wont satisfy; unprepared for the "Judgment that must begin at the house of God."
"Rejoice always, pray continually, in everything give thanks for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you."
The meaning of the crown of thorns: being rejected by those desiring control.
"The wrath of God revealed from heaven against all lukewarm and divided people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness."
I had concluded to let go of this post, but to my surprise today there was a wave of understanding from unknown soldiers, so that I had to reevaluate. This was intended to be about coming persecution against the Church prophesied for the end time of trouble.
But since there is misunderstanding with people drawn to mention the anger of God, I concluded to go along in that direction.
Now we are addressing God's anger towards those who hold the Truth and live a double life.
Jesus is making intercession for us: in a dream a man saw Jesus breaking chains that bound Him, Jesus angry and spiting out the lukewarm who think they know Him but don't and wont repent. Revelation 3:15
This man saw Jesus returning to earth angry <
Part of the interpretation of the first dream:
To be seated with the Lord, is to enter into rest, to turn our will to the will of God. It's relevant that you have to get past your fear to be there: in the will of God we don't decide the outcome. The Lord is calling us to a place of maturity in Him, and spitting out the lukewarm self confident as they cant follow Him in that condition.
Part of the interpretation of second dream
Asking the Lord's will for your life and waking up from the dream: waking up is the interpretation, if we are not awake spiritually we are still living for ourselves in an illusion that wont satisfy; unprepared for the "Judgment that must begin at the house of God."
"Rejoice always, pray continually, in everything give thanks for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you."
The meaning of the crown of thorns: being rejected by those desiring control.
This 8 minutes video is my favorite, with hidden meaning and the place of safety during the final battle.
<https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...81399C715E8AF47CBF6E81399C715E8AF&FORM=WRVORC>
The morning after seeing the video, woke up with the realization that what she saw from a window that looked like a soccer field, would be the dimensions of the Holy place: twice as long as wide. The crown of thorns is the rejection from those desiring to be in charge. The steps ascending to the entrance is the Way Jesus made in Himself, to follow in His steps. "Verily, verily I say to you, hereafter you shall see heaven open and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man." "This Ladder Jacob saw by night as he slept: the angels of God ascending and descending on it and behold the Lord stood above it." A secret Ladder hidden from understanding, wisdom we see dimly. Humbled and raised up to God in this Ladder, we suffer many ups and downs to keep watch until we enter into rest in God. On higher steps much is revealed through Love as we cease from ourselves, immersed in fellowship with God.
Stay on the Rock:
"Many shall be purified and made white and refined but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand."
Matthew 24: "Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the Holy place, let the reader understand: let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. The one on the housetop not go down to take anything out of His House. Let not the one in the field go back to get their clothes. How dreadful it will be in those days for babes and nursing children! Pray that your flight will not be in winter or on the Sabbath. For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now and never again.
Jesus Is answering 2 questions his disciples asked, at the same time: the destruction of the temple and the end of the world. Understanding hidden meaning:
Let those who are Living in the Praise of God flee to the "Mountain of the Lord's house." Let him who is in fellowship with God, not go down to take things in his hands again, and let him who is in the world, not go back to his old identity, and woe to those who remain babes and those still depending on Mother (the church). But pray and don’t wait until trouble comes to learn to soar with God: For then shall be great trouble, such as was not since the beginning of the world, nor ever shall be."
<https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...81399C715E8AF47CBF6E81399C715E8AF&FORM=WRVORC>
The morning after seeing the video, woke up with the realization that what she saw from a window that looked like a soccer field, would be the dimensions of the Holy place: twice as long as wide. The crown of thorns is the rejection from those desiring to be in charge. The steps ascending to the entrance is the Way Jesus made in Himself, to follow in His steps. "Verily, verily I say to you, hereafter you shall see heaven open and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man." "This Ladder Jacob saw by night as he slept: the angels of God ascending and descending on it and behold the Lord stood above it." A secret Ladder hidden from understanding, wisdom we see dimly. Humbled and raised up to God in this Ladder, we suffer many ups and downs to keep watch until we enter into rest in God. On higher steps much is revealed through Love as we cease from ourselves, immersed in fellowship with God.
Stay on the Rock:
"Many shall be purified and made white and refined but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand."
Matthew 24: "Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the Holy place, let the reader understand: let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. The one on the housetop not go down to take anything out of His House. Let not the one in the field go back to get their clothes. How dreadful it will be in those days for babes and nursing children! Pray that your flight will not be in winter or on the Sabbath. For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now and never again.
Jesus Is answering 2 questions his disciples asked, at the same time: the destruction of the temple and the end of the world. Understanding hidden meaning:
Let those who are Living in the Praise of God flee to the "Mountain of the Lord's house." Let him who is in fellowship with God, not go down to take things in his hands again, and let him who is in the world, not go back to his old identity, and woe to those who remain babes and those still depending on Mother (the church). But pray and don’t wait until trouble comes to learn to soar with God: For then shall be great trouble, such as was not since the beginning of the world, nor ever shall be."
you assume one is afraid, I see in scripture God ability every time Judgement came HE protected HIS people. the only time they were protected is when they were far from HIM in sin.
Noah
Moses
Joshua
Lott
God has always had the protectors
The Judges Samson
Prophets :
Samuel
Elijah
Elishia
The Righteous do not suffer Judgement.
That does not mean one will not be killed or persecuted.
The biggest lie of the devil today and has been for some time is the Following imho:
1. there is no God
2. There is no hell
3. Jesus did not raise from the dead
4. The Bible is not the word of God
5. Jesus did not leave earth literally only spiritually
6. Jesus has already returned
The reason for the latter ones is to cause those to have no concern for sin in their lives. They think acquiring knowledge of Gods word is all you do after being saved. That is it. Most will discredit the gospel writings and will attack the Book of Revelation of Jesus Christ.
Noah
Moses
Joshua
Lott
God has always had the protectors
The Judges Samson
Prophets :
Samuel
Elijah
Elishia
The Righteous do not suffer Judgement.
That does not mean one will not be killed or persecuted.
The biggest lie of the devil today and has been for some time is the Following imho:
1. there is no God
2. There is no hell
3. Jesus did not raise from the dead
4. The Bible is not the word of God
5. Jesus did not leave earth literally only spiritually
6. Jesus has already returned
The reason for the latter ones is to cause those to have no concern for sin in their lives. They think acquiring knowledge of Gods word is all you do after being saved. That is it. Most will discredit the gospel writings and will attack the Book of Revelation of Jesus Christ.
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It is more likely that Enoch and Elijah will be the two saints on earth during the tribulation. The Word states that mankind dies once. Moses died prior to Israel entering into the promised land.
Heb 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Deut 33:1
And this is the blessing, wherewith Moses the man of God blessed the children of Israel before his death.
Jude 9
Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
Heb 11:5
By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
2 Kings 2:11
And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
Heb 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Deut 33:1
And this is the blessing, wherewith Moses the man of God blessed the children of Israel before his death.
Jude 9
Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
Heb 11:5
By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
2 Kings 2:11
And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
I think many who walk by sight minimize the wrath of God that is being revealed (Roman 1:18) a continuation from the first day he corrupted the creation. And in doing so miss the understanding of why the wrath came that why we are under it in the first place. .
Some thinking the end will come is a sign and wonder and dramatize it as a the grand finally the final judgment Hollywood style which is simply the second death casting all death in the lake of fire.
There are those who say the unbelievers will be raised and judged when we know they are already judged seeing they do not believe they are already condemned . Dead men will not be judged twice like with Pope Formosa in the Cadaver Synod. The final judgement will be the end of theChrist who reigns with us in us will come like a thief in the night on the last day..
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.Roman1:18
Some thinking the end will come is a sign and wonder and dramatize it as a the grand finally the final judgment Hollywood style which is simply the second death casting all death in the lake of fire.
There are those who say the unbelievers will be raised and judged when we know they are already judged seeing they do not believe they are already condemned . Dead men will not be judged twice like with Pope Formosa in the Cadaver Synod. The final judgement will be the end of theChrist who reigns with us in us will come like a thief in the night on the last day..
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.Roman1:18
You are forgetting that both MOSES AND ELIJAH appeared at the Mount of Transfiguration and communicated with Christ about His *exodus* (His crucifixion, resurrection, and ascension). And the miracles described in Revelation 11 are the same as performed by those two prophets originally.
These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy [ELIJAH] : and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues [MOSES], as often as they will. (Rev 11:6)
These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy [ELIJAH] : and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues [MOSES], as often as they will. (Rev 11:6)
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The great tribulation, and the time of Jacobs trouble are said to be so severe, there is non like it. Jesus said in matt 24 if he did not stop it. No flesh would survive.
What happened in AD 70 was nothing compaired to the wars of the 20th century. And what is yet to come will make those look not as bad.
What happened in AD 70 was nothing compaired to the wars of the 20th century. And what is yet to come will make those look not as bad.
Yes I understand and agree, but many cant think outside the box of their understanding, what they have been though as babes in Christ. "Noting shall by any means harm you," includes dying for the Faith, nuclear war... But some peoples interpretation would be God will not let anything bad happen to you, and take you out of trouble before it happens. "In the world you will have trouble, but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world." "The Joy of the Lord is our strength." "Fear not those who can kill the body and afterwards are unable to kill the soul,"
I was content to let this page fall into the background with no more responses because there is so much misunderstanding:
Those who are not filled with the Holy Spirit can not comprehend that they are invincible, can you?
When I was a young Christian I told the Lord: Lord I'm so weak but Your Invincible. He replied: I'll make you invincible. Some of you would find this a hard saying to believe and I assure you that for years and years afterwards I stumbled along and was anything but invincible. "If I have all knowledge and have not Love I am nothing," but on the same scroll is written "He that is joined to the Lord becomes one Spirit with Him." We need to keep reading: your not here to compete with anyone but to learn to persevere. "Great deliverance gives He to His saints." The Way to understand invincible is not in our understanding but in Christ. We don't know God in our understanding and I just said a contradiction on purpose; but when "Its no longer I that Lives but Christ that Live in me," We all agree Christ is invincible, the Holy Spirit in us, and I'm so week but Your invincible, becomes one. "When I am weak then am I strong, because the power of God rests on me." When we know we need help and come to Him and remain, we are secure in Him no mater what befalls the earth. In a sense when we remain with Him we are already cough up to God, in the world but not of the world. So for some saints here the rapture happened and nothing will harm them lol. "He that sits in the heavens shall laugh."
I was content to let this page fall into the background with no more responses because there is so much misunderstanding:
Those who are not filled with the Holy Spirit can not comprehend that they are invincible, can you?
When I was a young Christian I told the Lord: Lord I'm so weak but Your Invincible. He replied: I'll make you invincible. Some of you would find this a hard saying to believe and I assure you that for years and years afterwards I stumbled along and was anything but invincible. "If I have all knowledge and have not Love I am nothing," but on the same scroll is written "He that is joined to the Lord becomes one Spirit with Him." We need to keep reading: your not here to compete with anyone but to learn to persevere. "Great deliverance gives He to His saints." The Way to understand invincible is not in our understanding but in Christ. We don't know God in our understanding and I just said a contradiction on purpose; but when "Its no longer I that Lives but Christ that Live in me," We all agree Christ is invincible, the Holy Spirit in us, and I'm so week but Your invincible, becomes one. "When I am weak then am I strong, because the power of God rests on me." When we know we need help and come to Him and remain, we are secure in Him no mater what befalls the earth. In a sense when we remain with Him we are already cough up to God, in the world but not of the world. So for some saints here the rapture happened and nothing will harm them lol. "He that sits in the heavens shall laugh."
I listened to a few of her videos, here is one relevant to the topic here. Notice, the economy had collapsed but the government managed to keep it going for a while. The video is 2 years old already and describes the Trump administration quite well. The best interpretation I get is in the time of trouble we are children in trouble barely of age to do the will of the Father waiting for the Father opens the door and we wake up, that's how the dream ends. I suppose I should have could have would have posted this one as the opening: it is easier to understand and more to the point. Thanks for mentioning.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubd6wV68oMo>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubd6wV68oMo>
This is false! The early church as a whole used the Septuagint Greek translation of the Bible. In that translation the word we call ''Church'' simply means an assembly or congregation of believers in God The word Church is derived from Latin translations of the Bible copied by the KJV so the term Church in Revelation simply means a congregation of believers in God, There is no distinction between Jewish believers and the Christian Church in Revelation This is another example of the false teaching of Dispensationalism with the compliments of Darby, Scofield and the rest of the usual suspects.
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World war 2 is a political in nature , not a spiritual war.
More fierce in which way? In respect to the first century reformation a great tribulation ?
None like before or again where a nation lost it outward identity that was used temporally in a parable in shadows and types for that temporal time period.?
As fierce as persons imagination the sky is the limit??
How much more fierce could the persecution be for hearing the gospel ?
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More fierce in which way? In respect to the first century reformation a great tribulation ?
None like before or again where a nation lost it outward identity that was used temporally in a parable in shadows and types for that temporal time period.?
As fierce as persons imagination the sky is the limit??
How much more fierce could the persecution be for hearing the gospel ?
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Jesus said in matt 24 that it will be so great, all flesh on earth would die if he did not put an end to it.
WW2 was noth spiritual and political (You forgot the jewish delima which was spiritual in nature) it could easily be said more jews did under htler than they did under rome. If we think the atrocited that anyone in the concen tration camps were nto severe. We need ot restudy history
This is not even to mention the tribulation the war itself caused on most of the earth. But even then, All life on earth was nto threatened. But we did witness the first use of the future creation of mankind that will threaten all life on earth. And what many are starting to see as the main even whcih causes jesus to return (all the major powers on earth pushed the button and launched their nukes) Which would end all life on earth.
WW2 was noth spiritual and political (You forgot the jewish delima which was spiritual in nature) it could easily be said more jews did under htler than they did under rome. If we think the atrocited that anyone in the concen tration camps were nto severe. We need ot restudy history
This is not even to mention the tribulation the war itself caused on most of the earth. But even then, All life on earth was nto threatened. But we did witness the first use of the future creation of mankind that will threaten all life on earth. And what many are starting to see as the main even whcih causes jesus to return (all the major powers on earth pushed the button and launched their nukes) Which would end all life on earth.
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I have to reply because you brought up interesting questions? World war 2 was the beginning of the restoration of the daily sacrifice of Praise, I mentioned this already earlier. There are 2 mentions of the daily, taken away by the beast in Daniel. The first mention, 2,300 days, close to the length of the war but not about the length of the war: about the length of time Christians were deceived to serve earthly governments at war. The next time the daily is taken away (the word sacrifice was added for explanation and also served to confuse Christians to think there had to be a rebuilding of an earthly temple again to fulfil prophesy) is in Daniel 12, in the final time of trouble such as never was and never again. One thing is needful to interpret correctly: to sit at the feet of Jesus and forget what you think you know and your old life and turn your life to the Lord; guard your heart against pride of achievement when you get a glimpse of more light, as you feel like you have attained but its only the beginning and if you fall into pride you may have to go around in the wilderness like Israel, and like me: I met the Lord 41 years ago. In less than the first year, the Lord told me: Your going to fall that you may learn to continually repent. If your a slow learner like me, don't feel bad most of us are, even His own disciples.