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I already previously discussed John 15:1-6 with you in a different post, but apparently everything that I explained to you must have gone right over your head.
I have quoted what the Bible says and I find it strange that you accuse me of embellishing what James is teaching when you just basically said the same thing that I already said.
*If someone says-claims they have faith but they have no works (lack resulting evidential works) then they have an empty profession of faith/dead faith and not authentic faith.
I have quoted what the Bible says and I find it strange that you accuse me of embellishing what James is teaching when you just basically said the same thing that I already said.
*If someone says-claims they have faith but they have no works (lack resulting evidential works) then they have an empty profession of faith/dead faith and not authentic faith.
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Can you see the air you breathe? Do you believe it is real?
Faith is a spiritual gift given in measure to every man except Christ.....how can it be a work? And hiw it is difficult to believe in God.....? EVERYTHING TESTIFIES THAT GOD IS REAL AND THIS IS ALL REAL......no man is without excuse because that which is invisible CAN BE SEEN BY THAT WHICH IS MADE...........
Faith is a spiritual gift given in measure to every man except Christ.....how can it be a work? And hiw it is difficult to believe in God.....? EVERYTHING TESTIFIES THAT GOD IS REAL AND THIS IS ALL REAL......no man is without excuse because that which is invisible CAN BE SEEN BY THAT WHICH IS MADE...........
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First of all the bible speaks of FAITH.....not faith or authentic faith.
FAITH IS FAITH.
Second of all ... there's a difference between exegeting scripture and adding to it.
The way you explain James 2 is embellishing. ( a good word @dcontroversal uses).
Third... nothing you say to me could go OVER MY HEAD.
And I resent that you think you're superior to me in biblical knowledge and I'd appreciate some respect from you as I also have respected Your intelligence.
Because I DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU
does NOT mean I do not understand you.
Thanks.
FAITH IS FAITH.
Second of all ... there's a difference between exegeting scripture and adding to it.
The way you explain James 2 is embellishing. ( a good word @dcontroversal uses).
Third... nothing you say to me could go OVER MY HEAD.
And I resent that you think you're superior to me in biblical knowledge and I'd appreciate some respect from you as I also have respected Your intelligence.
Because I DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU
does NOT mean I do not understand you.
Thanks.
Did faith before evidence not require some convincing. Did it not require a level of acceptance on our part. Is believing what seems impossible require some level of work on our part? Has any of us never questioned or doubted what we were taught? Is not the American version of Sant Clause or the Easter Bunny a lie? We figured it out for ourselves. Why do we believe in Jesus? We figured out it's true. That took work in our heads and hearts.
I can feel the wind and see the leaves and branches move so I believe that air exists. God to the ungodly is much less tangible. It didn't require work with our hands or speech but it did in our hearts and minds head. Since we were saved the work is finished. It is not losable because the work to get it was finished. Saved by Grace would no be saved it would be earned otherwise.
That's enough dialectics rom me for today.
I can feel the wind and see the leaves and branches move so I believe that air exists. God to the ungodly is much less tangible. It didn't require work with our hands or speech but it did in our hearts and minds head. Since we were saved the work is finished. It is not losable because the work to get it was finished. Saved by Grace would no be saved it would be earned otherwise.
That's enough dialectics rom me for today.
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Which means that Faith WITHOUT works is DEAD as in,
...I know your deeds; you have a reputation of being alive, but YOU ARE DEAD. Wake up! Strengthen what remains and is about to die, for I HAVE NOT FOUND YOUR DEEDS COMPLETE IN THE SIGHT OF MY GOD. Remember, therefore, what you have RECEIVED and HEARD; OBEY IT, and REPENT. But IF YOU DO NOT WAKE UP, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you. Revelation 3:1-3
...For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ NOT ONLY TO BELIEVE ON HIM, but also to suffer for him, Philippians 1:29
...It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control his own body in a way that is holy and honorable, not in passionate lust like the heathen, who do not know God; and that in this matter no one should wrong his brother or take advantage of him. The Lord will punish men for all such sins, as we have already told you and warned you. For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life. Therefore, HE WHO REJECTS THIS INSTRUCTION DOES NOT REJECT MAN BUT GOD, who gives you his Holy Spirit. 1 Thessalonians 4:3-8
...For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Live as children of light (for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth) and find out what pleases the Lord. Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. For it is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret. But everything exposed by the light becomes visible, for it is light that makes everything visible. This is why it is said: “Wake up, O sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.” Ephesians 5:8-14
...And do this, understanding the present time. The hour has come for you to WAKE UP from your slumber, because OUR SALVATION IS NEARER NOW THAN WHEN WE FIRST BELIEVED. Romans 13:11
...See to it that you DO NOT REFUSE HIM who speaks. If they did not escape when they refused him WHO WARNED THEM on earth, how much less will we, if we turn away from him WHO WARNS US FROM HEAVEN?
Don't reject or refuse His warnings...
...Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and THE WHOLE WORLD HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO GOD. Romans 3:19
Are you ACCOUNTABLE to God?
Again...DO NOT REFUSE THE WARNINGS.
...I know your deeds; you have a reputation of being alive, but YOU ARE DEAD. Wake up! Strengthen what remains and is about to die, for I HAVE NOT FOUND YOUR DEEDS COMPLETE IN THE SIGHT OF MY GOD. Remember, therefore, what you have RECEIVED and HEARD; OBEY IT, and REPENT. But IF YOU DO NOT WAKE UP, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you. Revelation 3:1-3
...For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ NOT ONLY TO BELIEVE ON HIM, but also to suffer for him, Philippians 1:29
...It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control his own body in a way that is holy and honorable, not in passionate lust like the heathen, who do not know God; and that in this matter no one should wrong his brother or take advantage of him. The Lord will punish men for all such sins, as we have already told you and warned you. For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life. Therefore, HE WHO REJECTS THIS INSTRUCTION DOES NOT REJECT MAN BUT GOD, who gives you his Holy Spirit. 1 Thessalonians 4:3-8
...For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Live as children of light (for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth) and find out what pleases the Lord. Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. For it is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret. But everything exposed by the light becomes visible, for it is light that makes everything visible. This is why it is said: “Wake up, O sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.” Ephesians 5:8-14
...And do this, understanding the present time. The hour has come for you to WAKE UP from your slumber, because OUR SALVATION IS NEARER NOW THAN WHEN WE FIRST BELIEVED. Romans 13:11
...See to it that you DO NOT REFUSE HIM who speaks. If they did not escape when they refused him WHO WARNED THEM on earth, how much less will we, if we turn away from him WHO WARNS US FROM HEAVEN?
Don't reject or refuse His warnings...
...Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and THE WHOLE WORLD HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO GOD. Romans 3:19
Are you ACCOUNTABLE to God?
Again...DO NOT REFUSE THE WARNINGS.
Did faith before evidence not require some convincing. Did it not require a level of acceptance on our part. Is believing what seems impossible require some level of work on our part? Has any of us never questioned or doubted what we were taught? Is not the American version of Sant Clause or the Easter Bunny a lie? We figured it out for ourselves. Why do we believe in Jesus? We figured out it's true. That took work in our heads and hearts.
I can feel the wind and see the leaves and branches move so I believe that air exists. God to the ungodly is much less tangible. It didn't require work with our hands or speech but it did in our hearts and minds head. Since we were saved the work is finished. It is not losable because the work to get it was finished. Saved by Grace would no be saved it would be earned otherwise.
That's enough dialectics rom me for today.
I can feel the wind and see the leaves and branches move so I believe that air exists. God to the ungodly is much less tangible. It didn't require work with our hands or speech but it did in our hearts and minds head. Since we were saved the work is finished. It is not losable because the work to get it was finished. Saved by Grace would no be saved it would be earned otherwise.
That's enough dialectics rom me for today.
In the grace you are, having been saved out of faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God and not of works lest any man should boast....that not of yourselves is directed at the faith that saves......See Galatians chapter 2....we are Justified by the Faith OF CHRIST..OF OR FROM INDICATE SOURCE
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