Not By Works

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Don't get me wrong, we are not saved by works, but after we are saved there are works for us to do. And we can not reject the fact that Jesus will be separating people for the works the did and did not do, one day. Jesus does require us to do works.
Not to remain saved, for reward yes (misthos) pay or wages for service rendered.......salvation is a one off event with present continuing results
 

GodsGrace101

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Here's what I believe about that:

--Paul stated in Romans 7:1-4 that we are "joined to Another, even to Him who is raised from the dead, IN ORDER THAT we should bring forth fruit unto God. (for "apart from Him" we can do NOTHING)

Romans 7:1-4 is speaking about the law that the Jews followed (613 laws) and how that is no longer necessary. I don't know where it speaks about bringing forth fruit...

--In Philippians 1:11 (as part of his prayer for fellow-believers [when they come to the end of their lives, and are in His Presence]) Paul said, "...having been filled with the fruit of righteousness which is BY MEANS OF JESUS CHRIST, to the glory and praise of God."

Agreed.

--the writer of Hebrews said, in 13:20-21 [blb] - "20 Now may the God of peace, having brought out from the dead the great Shepherd of the sheep, our Lord Jesus, by the blood of the eternal covenant, 21 equip you in everything good, in order to do His will, working in us that which is well pleasing before Him, through [/BY MEANS OF] JESUS CHRIST, to whom be the glory to the ages of the ages. Amen.

Agreed again.

--"the fruit of the Spirit" is not something we muster up from ourselves (it is "HIS FRUIT" / "OF THE SPIRIT")... and sometimes believers can quench and grieve the Spirit, otherwise the exhortation to not do that would be... needless, right?

--then there is also the concept of "GROWTH" (He leads us through that too)

I agree with all. We need God's grace to follow Him and do His will. Jesus said without Him we can do nothing...We feed from the vine. John 15:5

Sorry for delay.
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Wow, you talk about the written Word of God like that and don't know it is wrong? Does seered mean anything to you?
James 2:19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that--and shudder.

King James Bible Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

Wow....you peddle a false gospel void of context.....the devils did not have saving faith PAL....and that is the COMPARISON....BILLIONS BELIEVE IN GOD yet have NO SAVING FAITH <--get that through yout thick head!!
 

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Wow....you peddle a false gospel void of context.....the devils did not have saving faith PAL....and that is the COMPARISON....BILLIONS BELIEVE IN GOD yet have NO SAVING FAITH <--get that through yout thick head!!
James is the one who brought up the demons to shame you and the others with your false faith alone beliefs.
 
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James is the one who brought up the demons to shame you and the others with your false faith alone beliefs.
Hahhajajaja the more you speak the more foolish you look pal.....and if your really believe what comes out of your mouth.....you are way worse off than I originally thought....
 
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God has revealed things to me that most don't know, but there are those who love to be shown the truth.
This right here proves you are false pal.....No scripture is of any private interpretation......one who states what you have stated should be sent packing imv...
 
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UnderGrace

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Who is the chosen one that you followed instead of just going by Jesus in the Holy Bible?
Typically the teach yourself method is fraught with danger, most likely you will fall into the big large pit known as "wrong interpretation."